I want more Puck! lol. Just finished last night's episode. It was pretty good, I still think Jesse is hot :D

Another great episode... I was so happy they put more emphasis on some of the more minor characters like Artie and Tina. And I loved seeing Artie dance! The flash mob thing was cute.

SPOILER if you haven't seen this week's episode yet...
I had to pause the show when Jesse got in the car with Idina... it was such a HOLY CRAP! moment. So, he really did get with Rachel because his coach told him to! But he's having real feelings for her! And his goal wasn't to sabotage New Directions, it was to tell Rachel the truth about her Mom! Gah!

I finally watched the episode last night - great numbers all around. When Mr. SydneyK saw Idina for the first time he actually said, "Wow, she looks like an older version of the main girl. Are they related?" I LOLed considering the context of the show.

Dream On and I Dreamed a Dream were both so good. It's always fun to hear solos turned into duets (well, it's not always fun - but it's fun when it's done well).

I enjoyed the duets, not something we see a lot of. Although I love NPH, Matthew Morrison hit the ball out of the park on this one.

I did miss not seeing any real group numbers. Those are my favorites, followed by Mr. Shu's songs.

I had to pause to take in how cute Jonathan Groff is when soaking wet. Then I had to remind myself that he is younger than me. But I can still look :D

That was our reaction, too! Joel thought it was a little messed up that he was making out with a girl who looked so much like his student! lol

There's more going on here than Idina being Rachel's mom. She's totally going to use it to sabotage new directions.

Or, I can see Rachel going into one of her little snits and quitting New Directions and running to Mommy and Vocal Adrenaline.

Hmm, I can totally see that happening in the season finale.

Although, since I love Idina, I want to give her character the "benefit of the doubt". LOL.

That's my suspicion.

I read online in the new EW (which I sooo need to go buy), the show doesn't end its season until June 8, so we've got at three more episodes.

It's funny figuring out that I was totally wrong about this! (I mean, I guess there could still be a major plot twist...)

...I just got to watch the episode on hulu tonight. It's been a rough semester :(

So according to EW, Jonathon Groff is gay and Time criticized Glee because they didn't believe him as "heterosexual".

Thing is, I didn't have a frickin clue that he is gay (not that it would matter anyways). He seemed to play it so well. I'm sure it had more to do with the fact that he was making out with Lea, who he macked on in Spring Awakening. Obviously the stupid writer from Time didn't pick up on that. :rolleyes:

I also read that next years season finale ends with Nationals, which will be in NYC. They haven't decided whether New Directions will make Nationals or not. They (the producers/writers) tried to be all like "well we don't know what will happen next season. Will new directions be around?". I guess it would defeat the purpose of the show of New Directions gets cancelled (like Figgins said it would be if they didn't win Regionals). Shue isn't like Sue, willing to blackmail to get his way.

Wow, that scene with Finn and Kurt's dad is INTENSE! I love that he is sticking up for Kurt! I thought kicking Finn out was a little extreme after the fact, but he was saying some extremely offensive things to Kurt.

That was the best scene of the show so far, IMO.

It was awesome!

Thank you to Ryan Murphy for having Idina sing a solo and then having her sing Poker Face with Lea!!! (I bow down to Ryan Murphy)

And seriously, the resemblence between Idina and Lea is frickin uncanny. It was weird watching them sing, I was like "you sure you two not related in real life, like distant cousins".

Kurt's dad is my favorite character and I think he's a great example of parenting (even though it's just tv). He's the kind of parent I want to be when I have kids. Just, balanced, and ultra accepting and protective when necessary.

I don't think kicking him out was too serious (although I understand what you mean) but at the end of the day he was protecting his house as somewhere safe for his son under all circumstances.

Didn't you LOVE his brutal honesty!? Telling Finn that he was the same way as a kid, he used to call guys "fag" and he didn't think anything of it. He didn't even really know what it meant. But NOW he knows he was wrong.

I was the same way in high school. That was one of the words that I used to describe anyone I didn't like and I called everyTHING I didn't like "gay". Of course I now know the error of my ways (like Kurts dad) and I applaud him so much for being able to be so honest. If he would have said "I always knew not to call people that" it would not have been nearly as powerful.

Its a lot more than making out on stage. Its intense.



I love Kurts dad. He needs to teach parenting courses cause he is my favorite dad of all time. They need to redo that "best dads" vote cause he would make the list.

Other than the scene between Kurt, his dad and Finn, and "Beth" (because I love that song), I pretty much thought tonight's show was disappointing. The Rachel-VA Coach storyline is weird, I thought Poker Face was WEIRDER, and I'm getting reallly tired of the whole "Glee club is for geeks" storyline, because at my school the kids in show choir were actually popular! And could they write Mr. Shu any squarer? That clapping in the boys' restroom was so cliche that I thought he was joking!

This show is so uneven. They do an amazing show like last week, and the one a few weeks ago with April, then a "filler" one like this.

I thought the same thing!!! The physical pairing couldn't have been any more awesome!

I wasn't a face of Poker Face until tonight. :D That was an awesome version and I'm glad I kept myself from listening to it early (it was leaked on YT last week). My heart broke for Lea, but the scene where they were sitting in seperate rows was great. "The way we're seated is so dramatic but we're both totally comfortable with it." :p

I was kind of disappointed this week, too. They built it up as the big Gaga Episode but there were only two Gaga songs! Granted they were both well done, but still. I guess I was expecting something more like the Madonna episode, which I LOVED.

And I thought the whole "be yourself" storyline was so cliche. At the end, where they all stand up to the bullies... meh. I did lol at "We done disturbed the freak hive!" but they do this same "love yourself no matter what" stuff practically every show. It's not like it's a bad message, it's just getting old.

However I do have to jump on the bandwagon - Kurt's Dad rocks :D

Agreed

"I think you've learned your lesson..." or whatever he said. ROFL soooo corny!

I spent most of the episode pointing out inconsistancies. Apparently, this episode was supposed to be the second from the last, not the third from the last, so they had to re-edit it when FOX decided to switch it around (so GaGa would be after the American Idol stuff). Anyway, it was a great episode, but I really wish it hadn't been switched with Funk. (I thought the end was a perfect segway into the season finale, but now we have another episode).

The last two episodes have been lacking in the very thing that I really enjoyed about the earlier episodes of "Glee" - the strong group numbers, the interactions all over the place (the phone call among all of the kids except Rachel, Finn, Puck and Quinn, when they wanted to keep Rachel from finding out that Puck's the baby's father) and the pacing (jumping from story to story in the same episode).

I know that they need to develop some of the story lines, but focusing on just one or two story lines in a single episode...slows...everything...way...down... I'm not used to seeing that on Glee. Maybe doing it once or twice to shake up the devices that they use to tell the stories, but not consecutively.

I get that the show is trying to reflect the way things pan out in real life - like Kurt and his dad navigating Kurt's coming out, or Rachel's coming to terms with growing up without a mom - in real life, this stuff can't be resolved in a day or two. That is one thing I really enjoy about Glee - they managed to do it well with quick-paced action and dialogue, interspersed with moments of quiet and reflection. Why are they changing it now?

Ditto

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Now my high school didn't have "show" choir, but we had choir, in fact we had 4 choirs up until my senior year, when the 5th one was introduced. There was such an array of people in choir. We had the jocks (guys and girls), the drama people, the computer nerds, everything. Our concerts would be packed! Not only with our family and friends, but tons of people from the high school just supporting the fine arts.

I would say that I went to a snooty high school (about 90% white and about 75% middle to upper class families), but people "intermingled" the cliques (choir & cheer) quite often (I was one of them who "intermingled due to my sport affiliation). No one, at least not to me personally, dissed me because I was in choir. I never witnessed any of my friends being treated horribly because they were in choir. We were bringing in the trophies and recognition for the school. [/end mini-hijack]

I'm glad though that they are introducing more characters next season. I hope that they stop this animosity between the football players and glee. Obviously keep the animosity between Sue and Shue because what would we have without Sue. :D

I agree. I was promised a Gaga episode and the FIRST song was freaking Barbra Streisand! NOOOO!

A Lady Gaga episode could have been fully and properly done with solely Gaga songs and they failed compleely at their promise, then they brought in Kiss songs! That's not even a woman! I just sat there disappointed unless Kurt was on the screen most of the time. Also they butchered the lyrics for Poker Face horribly although the often-misheard lyrics seemed to fit the issues Idina's character was struggling with (not being able to love her own child because she's not a baby). I didn't like that they edited the heck out of Bad Romance. She's a free bitch, not a freak. I don't care what your audience is, just don't say it like in the unedited version that EVERYONE hears on the radio 1,000 times a day.

Also why are the same two guys harrassing everyone? It was so lame and unrealistic. That much bullying going on in a school would cause lawsuits on a daily basis.

Because it's using those two guys to represent all the bullying that happens, and it's a show that bases its entertainment playing off sterotypes to differing levels of success. Oh yes and singing and dancing too :D

Many things in the show are lame and unrealistic, but that's part of the point I think.

On the positive side, I loved the Gaga, Kiss and Beth...and this episode was better than the previous two. I'm looking forward to meeting Rachel's Dads. Have we seen them at all yet?

I was dissapointed by how simplistic the storyline was between Kurt and Finn. I kept waiting for Finn to say to Kurt 'hey, you are not my brother!' and for there to be some depth of exploration of how crappy it can be when adults move in together (they have not committed to being married, right?) but they expect all the unrelated kids to suddenly become siblings who have love, respect and patience for one another!

On the one hand Kurt's dad is a good guy for sticking up for his own son, but at the same time he's invited Finn to live in his house, mostly for his own convenience, and then he doesn't respect his boundaries, and calls him out as an unwelcome guest. That sucks.

I completely agree. These back 9 have been focusing on one or two story lines. I think thats what made the first 12 so good, is that it jumped around. One episode my friend goes "Where's Finn?" cause he wasn't in any of it and had about one line. I know guest stars can only stay on so long so tahts why they had to push the Idina and Lea story line but still.

Hopefully it will change now that they know they're on for at least two more seasons.

There are some of us who considered that a major trade up. ;) My reaction to the preview of the Gaga episode was "well, I guess they had to do it sooner or later, so let's get it over with."

Yes, in the first episode. One is white and one is black.

For my money, "Home" (with "A House is Not a Home," "One Less Bell to Answer," and "Beautiful") and "Dream On" (with "Dream On," "Safety Dance" and "I Dreamed a Dream") have been by far the best episodes recently.

Agreed, but don't forget how awesome the Madonna episode was! :D

I had to remind my Glee-obsessed sister about this because she forgot that the picture of them was introduced after Rachel explains that they mixed her dads' sperm together so no one would know who the dad actually was. Then photo reveal.

I wonder if they were any actors in particular or if we'll have a magic re-cast + possible DVD photo edit should they show up.

It was alright to me. I loved the "Vogue" video, but even in the 80s I wasn't a big Madonna fan.

I HATE the HOME episode. Listening to folks butchering what are normally tear-jerking soul classics is not my idea of a good time.

Ah well, everyone has different tastes. I thought all of the performances in that episode were great. What did you think was butchered? (And if it's by Burt Bacharach and Hal David, which many of the songs in that episode were, does it qualify as a soul classic?)

Agree completely. Madonna episode being #3. I like some story and character development with my singing, and I like it when they weave song into their daily lives and not just in Glee Club practice...but I like musicals, too. I've noticed that kids/teens seem to like the modern music/most of the action happens in the school/lots of Finn and Rachel episodes, whereas 30-somethings and up seem to like the deeper storylines and meaningful songs by multiple characters in different scenarios. I can't stand Finn's singing, and I wish they had LESS of him. And as much as I love Rachel's voice, her neurotic character is really grating on me.

I am more familiar with the version of A House Is Not A Home by Luther Vandross who probably has made it "the most popular" more recently.

Also while there are those that worship at the altar of KC, I found her version of "Home" to be... well...I had to turn of the TV. She just seemed to be hacking her way through it, but I'm sure she gave a brave effort. I normally can sit through her songs.
I always cry at the end of "The Wiz". Diana Ross. Done.

I do really like his version, but Dionne Warwick's is always the first that comes to mind for me. I guess I'm old enough (a child of the 60s and the early 70s) that I remember lots of versions of it. :o

Again :o -- I'm one of them who worships at that altar.

See, I hate, hate, hate with a red hot passion the movie of "The Wiz." I was so disappointed in that movie. And I couldn't stand Diana Ross in it at all -- way too old to be Dorothy.

"The Wiz" was the first show I ever saw on Broadway. Stephanie Mills gave me chills at the end when she sang "Home" -- still does when I listen to the CD. (And the arrangement that KC did on Glee is, except for the choral back-up, almost exactly the same arrangement as Stephanie Mills' from the show.) I thought the movie absolutely butchered the show. So I guess we've both got issues with butchering. :D

But it's all good. It'd be a boring world if we all liked the same things.

Diana Ross was a horrible Dorothy. Although, IMO, the only GOOD Diana Ross is the one in the Supremes.

They should have had Stephanie Mills in the movie

ETA: MysticCat I'm not from your generation but Dionne Warwick FTW.

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This is not how you argue on the internet! ;)