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DaemonSeid 09-26-2008 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by texas*princess (Post 1723717)
LOL that is so nutty.

I hope you actually get the $$ for it!

I think the shipping on that other bucket is high b/c it's a big @$$ bucket.. LOL

look at it like this...you can tell all your friends you saw it here FIRST.

"The BAILOUT Bucket to NOWHERE."

texas*princess 09-26-2008 08:02 PM

LOL

I think they just want a BRAND NEW bucket from Wal-Mart!

DaemonSeid 09-26-2008 08:15 PM

http://cagle.msnbc.com/working/080925/matson.jpg

CrackerBarrel 09-26-2008 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1723718)
uuuhhhmmmmm

uhh....errmmm

http://www.gallup.com/poll/110749/Ga...McCain-45.aspx

"I told ya so"?


(and the only way he can bounce back is if he wipes the floor in the debates tonight)

uhh....errmmm

Read what I said. That's consistent with it.

:cool:

I said "If they pass a bill" They haven't.

I also said poll numbers would go up OR remain unchanged. That poll looks pretty consistent with polls for the past week - week and a half or so.

And McCain hasn't gotten his chance to blast Obama for not doing anything yet. I'm not watching the debate tonight because I already know who I'm voting for and there's baseball on, but I would imagine it's coming either tonight or before too long.

So yeah, "I told ya so."

DaemonSeid 09-26-2008 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel (Post 1723758)
uhh....errmmm

Read what I said. That's consistent with it.

:cool:

I said "If they pass a bill" They haven't.

I also said poll numbers would go up OR remain unchanged. That poll looks pretty consistent with polls for the past week - week and a half or so.

And McCain hasn't gotten his chance to blast Obama for not doing anything yet. I'm not watching the debate tonight because I already know who I'm voting for and there's baseball on, but I would imagine it's coming either tonight or before too long.

So yeah, "I told ya so."


well what u are missing is some tap dancing and mccain refusing to make eye contact with Obama

CrackerBarrel 09-26-2008 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1723761)
well what u are missing is some tap dancing and mccain refusing to make eye contact with Obama

eh, I turned it on, lol.

ETA: Obama needs to make an argument about why we can afford to withdraw troops from Iraq and not just keep repeating that we shouldn't have been there to start with. It might be true, but in regards to what's being discussed and the reality now it's not an answer.

DaemonSeid 09-26-2008 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel (Post 1723762)
eh, I turned it on, lol.

like watchign a car wreck.....and make sure you bid on my bucket...

CrackerBarrel 09-26-2008 09:56 PM

I've been impressed by Obama's lack of "uh uh uh well, uh" before he starts answering. I still think the answers he's giving are asinine, but they've addressed one of the things that made him seem like a bad debater in the whole just making noise while he thinks thing.

DaemonSeid 09-26-2008 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel (Post 1723766)
I've been impressed by Obama's lack of "uh uh uh well, uh" before he starts answering. I still think the answers he's giving are asinine, but they've addressed one of the things that made him seem like a bad debater in the whole just making noise while he thinks thing.

they BOTH doing that....please.....lol

CrackerBarrel 09-26-2008 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1723770)
they BOTH doing that....please.....lol

No, I'm legitimately impressed that the campaign staff worked with him to get him to stop that. McCain goes "Well..." and then pauses which isn't a lot better, but the "uh uh uh" was one of the things that stood out about what Obama was doing in the forums or whatever the fake debates were and was one of the reasons people said he was weaker on non-scripted speeches. They needed to address it and they did. I don't mean it as a criticism, it was something that they needed to improve and I'm legitimately praising them for doing so.

DaemonSeid 09-26-2008 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel (Post 1723771)
No, I'm legitimately impressed that the campaign staff worked with him to get him to stop that. McCain goes "Well..." and then pauses which isn't a lot better, but the "uh uh uh" was one of the things that stood out about what Obama was doing in the forums or whatever the fake debates were and was one of the reasons people said he was weaker on non-scripted speeches. They needed to address it and they did. I don't mean it as a criticism, it was something that they needed to improve and I'm legitimately praising them for doing so.

I just want obama to get rid of the 'weed fingers'

PeppyGPhiB 09-26-2008 10:34 PM

I don't think this has been a terribly stong debate for Obama, but I think McCain is coming off as a warmonger. He is getting really emotional about defense, but in an angry way...not an intellectual way. And he wants to CEASE ALL FUNDING for anything that isn't defense and taking care of our veterans? Say what?! That did nothing to make me feel that he's any different from what people are saying more and more - that he's a war president, and nothing more.

CrackerBarrel 09-26-2008 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB (Post 1723785)
I don't think this has been a terribly stong debate for Obama, but I think McCain is coming off as a warmonger. He is getting really emotional about defense, but in an angry way...not an intellectual way. And he wants to CEASE ALL FUNDING for anything that isn't defense and taking care of our veterans? Say what?! That did nothing to make me feel that he's any different from what people are saying more and more - that he's a war president, and nothing more.

I agree, Obama just isn't a particularly strong debater, but McCain could have been better prepared. Just because it was a foreign policy debate doesn't mean you have to answer every question from a defense point of view. Yes it's obviously his strong point, but he can overplay it too.

DaemonSeid 09-26-2008 10:43 PM

he wasnt particularly strong but Obama was more concise and stumbled less...

CrackerBarrel 09-26-2008 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1723792)
he wasnt particularly strong but Obama was more concise and stumbled less...

He was more concise and stumbled less than he usually does, but he spent most of the debate responding to McCain instead of making his own points. So from a pure debate standpoint, he lost on that note. He let McCain define what they talked about and what his positions were and then spent his time trying to clarify his positions.

Granted I wasn't particularly impressed with either and Obama was bounds ahead of where he was in the primary debates, but Obama's staff needs to work on getting him on the attack instead of just defending for the next debate.

And Obama did misquote/mischaracterize what Kissinger said and he'll end up regretting that, Kissinger himself will respond to it and when he talks people listen.

So I think overall it's a McCain win, but won't move the polls much because it wasn't the best debate for either of them.


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