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KSigkid 05-29-2008 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1659633)
Just remember this sound logic when you celebrate something Obama has done that has absolutely nothing to do with politics, his platform, and what he will or will not do if in office. :)

Agreed - going on that logic, Obama's law school and academic credentials should be similarly discounted.

As to past presidents being POWs; the only one I can think of who comes close is Washington, who I believe was captured during the French and Indian War. Otherwise, I don't think another President was a prisoner during wartime.

DSTCHAOS 05-29-2008 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1659651)
John McCain isn't POTUS yet so let's not jump the gun...

NO SHIT? :eek: You're the one who said "damn near every PRESIDENT that has served has one."

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1659651)
Enough presidents however have seen combat.

Okay...is this your way of saying that McCain's military experience is unique as far as most presidential candidates and POTUS are concerned?

DSTCHAOS 05-29-2008 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1659659)
Agreed - going on that logic, Obama's law school and academic credentials should be similarly discounted.

As to past presidents being POWs; the only one I can think of who comes close is Washington, who I believe was captured during the French and Indian War. Otherwise, I don't think another President was a prisoner during wartime.

Exactly--as far as I'm concerned every political and nonpolitical feat from every candidate should be received equally. Because, as far as I'm concerned, every candidate has equal potential to be a great POTUS or a sucky POTUS. If McCain saying "g**k" can turn some voters off then McCain getting his ass whooped in war can turn some voters on.

Thanks for the info on Washington.

DaemonSeid 05-29-2008 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1659660)
NO SHIT? :eek: You're the one who said "damn near every PRESIDENT that has served has one."



Okay...is this your way of saying that McCain's military experience is unique as far as most presidential candidates and POTUS are concerned?

"....has one."

Military Record ...not POW.

As for McCain....

Yes and no...

Unique in that (should he become POTUS) he would be the only pres that served in Vietnam that was a POW

And no because of what I stated earlier.

jon1856 05-29-2008 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jon1856 (Post 1659304)
General Sherman: "
On June 19, 1879, Sherman delivered his famous "War Is Hell" speech to the graduating class of the Michigan Military Academy and to the gathered crowd of more than 10,000: "There is many a boy here today who looks on war as all glory, but, boys, it is all hell."[76]"
And BTB, LBJ used another Sherman statement when he declared that he would not run for re-election.

General Sherman may I introduce you to nate2512 ;)

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Originally Posted by nate2512 (Post 1659621)
According to Jon it apparently is. Since war is hell we should just not go to war anymore.

Also, when Congress voted on the torture bill, who was a very big advocate against it because he had been in the situation, and drawing on his own experiences in the military voted against it. So yes, it does play a vital part in how he feels about some of military, war, and veteran policies and those are things that should not be overlooked. The military part is not all war.

This thread is going in so many directions, that it is getting hard to follow any one thread of it. And yes, Nate and I are partially responsible for some of that.

I understand many posters have said that Military Service, while important, many not be the absolute benchmark.

I am ok with that POV/HO.

I still do not understand just at what level it can make a difference.
If one spends 4 years on a DD as a seaman, what special imprint/knowledge does that provide to that one person?
If one spends a few years in ANG, and stays at home and sees no combat, what special imprint/knowledge does that provide?

A leader learns and builds their skills in many ways.
Think of a platoon leaders as business manager.

And yes, I do understand the military a little bit.
I have family and friends who served. And I spent a great deal of time on Monday with several active duty and veterans. And I thanked each and everyone of them.

DSTCHAOS 05-29-2008 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1659693)
Unique in that (should he become POTUS) he would be the only pres that served in Vietnam that was a POW


As opposed to "unique" because he'll be the only POTUS who became a Vietnamese opera singer soon after capture? :rolleyes:

ETA: I know that you said that a lot of POTUS have military service. I'm saying that McCain's service is still unique and that's one of the things that sets him apart.

DaemonSeid 05-29-2008 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1659699)
As opposed to "unique" because he'll be the only POTUS who became a Vietnamese opera singer soon after capture? :rolleyes:

nah...I think Kerry was somewhere up for that one too...but he didn't win.

DSTCHAOS 05-29-2008 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1659703)
nah...I think Kerry was somewhere up for that one too...but he didn't win.

Okay...so as this thread draws to an end...I just wanted you to know that you're still full of isht. :)

DaemonSeid 05-29-2008 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1659706)
Okay...so as this thread draws to an end...I just wanted you to know that you're still full of isht. :)

same to you m'dear...same to you....you still have a warm spot in my heart...




no...






...that's just gas...

DSTCHAOS 05-29-2008 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1659708)
same to you m'dear...same to you....you still have a warm spot in my heart...




no...






...that's just gas...

Heart gas = poor diet

Eat better + exercise = live longer

nate2512 05-29-2008 03:50 PM

Jon, I've still yet to see any evidence of the Sherman quote that relates to anything I've said.

DaemonSeid 05-29-2008 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1659736)
Heart gas = poor diet

Eat better + exercise = live longer

ok...fine...cook for me.

DSTCHAOS 05-29-2008 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1659770)
ok...fine...cook for me.

You aren't privileged enough for the privilege. ;)

DaemonSeid 05-29-2008 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1659775)
You aren't privileged enough for the privilege. ;)

I'll rub the bunions on your feet

DSTCHAOS 05-29-2008 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1659879)
I'll rub the bunions on your feet

I don't have those.

But if I did, someone else is privileged enough for that privilege. ;)


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