In the north, sorority and Junior League just aren't as competitive. My JL chapter does not require recs or sponsors like in the book, The Devil in the Junior League I can't even imagine landing in a sorority if I attended schools where this was the norm! I'm glad women are asking about competitiveness on a campus in other threads but until they get there, they just aren't going to know for sure.

Junior League??? is that even popular anywhere these days?

It's tough to get women I know to go to a PTA meeting!

It has occurred to me that the second and third days of recruitment are getting weird for the competitive-campus sororities that are considered middle tier on down. (Yes, I know that "tiers" is a dirty word and I hate tiers too.) This is because nowadays, the huge cuts happen after first and second parties so the "middle tier on down" groups find themselves entertaining girls who thought they would be at the top of the top tier parties. That is, the girls who didn't drop out of recruitment. These are the girls who decided to make a stab at it because they want to be Greek and I salute them! Still, I'm told it's uncomfortable to be entertaining teary-eyed women at second and third parties.

Legacy
 

Yep, my neice was a triple legacy and didn't get a bid-----and 2 of her sisters were legacies at this house; the other sister was at an SEC school. I would love to PM you about this sometime.

jocelyn, that is so great!! i love to hear chapters who pull up their bootstraps and vow to succeed at recruitment. those women should be in the running for some major award!!

JLW is VERY popular out this way and most of our members work outside the home and plenty have children.

Sorry to bump this, but I'm still kind of confused on the "cross-cut myth."

I was talking to a recent alum about getting a rec and she told me how a girl in her pledge class got cross-cut, I also heard this from another girl who is a current active.

So according to all of the replies, cross-cutting is really just being cut because you were ranked too low on the list and your name just wasn't reached by the time ABC reached quota? Or something like that?

Obviously, there is nothing a PNM can do about this, but it's just another thing for me to worry about :(

more pnms are offered bids than are cross cut, so the odds are in your favor. don't worry unnecessarily.

FSUZeta is completely right. Go through, maximize your options in the early rounds, give everyone a fair chance, go to all the pref parties you can, and list all the groups that you'd be willing to join in the order that you honestly want them on the bid card.

If you are able to actually rank all the chapters whose prefs you attended since you would join them, things will probably work out at most campuses and will certainly work out at the schools with guaranteed matching and quota additions.

But crosscutting wouldn't actually be the problem anyway. And there's really no way that a women could possible know that it happened to her because even if she knew where she was on one group's bid list (very unlikely), she'd still have to know where she was on the other bid lists (less likely than her winning the Powerball lottery).

And if somehow a women did actually see all the lists, she'd probably realize that she wasn't ranked highly enough to match on any of them. The issue had nothing to do with the groups somehow canceling each other out.

Here's my random recruitment comment... I'm actually sick of the retro threads and I can't wait for the new PNMs to experience recruitment this fall.

I just can't stand to be reminded that I will never know the outcome of Recruitment's rush.

I'll make one up... She and her sister joined Alpha Gam, went to the same law school and graduated with honors and started their own law firm of Twin and Twin. They represent beauty queens, valedictorians and ski enthusiasts who have been wrongly cut from the sorority system because of their multiple legacy status.

And they all lived happily ever after in matching next-door mansions, married twin football players and gave birth to identical twin daughters of their own.

Oh and they always give to the Foundation.

Fin

Your version is probably about as factual, but without the obviously pretentious self-promotion and ornate us of stereotypes, not nearly as much fun to read. But I do thank you for attempting to bring me "closure."

(That Alpha Gam would give them bids seems less plausible even than sequined pantyhose being a good choice for first round.)