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Drolefille 04-16-2007 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BellaBerlee (Post 1430745)
It is such a tragedy what has happened :( So many unanswered questions too.. I have 2 friends that go there; and both are safe! Today was one of their birthdays too (what a day to remember huh)


Any word on Chi O's being accounted?


Prayers go out to the students and families!!

Nothing on your national website yet. I hope they're ok.

Drolefille 04-16-2007 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1430749)
This sounds harsh, but it's true. It's like people taking up for the Columbine killers because they were bullied. I'm sorry, but if everyone who was EVER picked on by anyone went on a shooting spree, there'd be a school shooting every single day.

Same thing with this incident. If everyone who had ever been dumped went on a killing spree, there'd be one every day.

If you've been dumped and can't handle it, talk to someone. Have yourself committed. Do something. But there is no excuse for murdering innocent people.




Jack Thompson, hater of all things video games, has already been on TV decrying games and gamers and clearly this guy (who hasn't even been officially ID'd yet - they're not even saying the same guy is responsible for both shootings) played games and killed people.

And personal responsibility takes a dive.

Buttonz 04-16-2007 08:34 PM

My friend called me when he first heard about it, about 12:30 "Did you hear about the shooting??" The way he said it I thought it was in RI at first.

I'm in total shock. I got off the phone with him and mentioned it (I was at work, no TV, no computer besides for the bosses) and my main boss looked it u\p right away.

Thoughts and prayers are with the victims, families of the victims, and those who still don't know if their family/friends/sisters & brothers, etc are safe.

Buttonz 04-16-2007 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1430749)
This sounds harsh, but it's true. It's like people taking up for the Columbine killers because they were bullied. I'm sorry, but if everyone who was EVER picked on by anyone went on a shooting spree, there'd be a school shooting every single day.

Same thing with this incident. If everyone who had ever been dumped went on a killing spree, there'd be one every day.

If you've been dumped and can't handle it, talk to someone. Have yourself committed. Do something. But there is no excuse for murdering innocent people.



Nothing you said sounded harsh IMO. Your 100% right. I know people, including myself, who have been picked on their entire life...I don't see any of us going around shooting people. There is no excuse at all for this.

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1430751)
Jack Thompson, hater of all things video games, has already been on TV decrying games and gamers and clearly this guy (who hasn't even been officially ID'd yet - they're not even saying the same guy is responsible for both shootings) played games and killed people.

And personal responsibility takes a dive.

Not saying that it makes him any less responsible, but if someone already has a twisted mind, the video games don't help at all. Have you ever seen some of them like Counter Strike?

Scandia 04-16-2007 08:37 PM

Goodness gracious.

I think each and everyone of us has anger about injustice. But most of us do not go around shooting random people who had absolutely nothing to do with the bad things that have happened to us.

Alpha Phi Omega brothers have been accounted for.

NinjaPoodle 04-16-2007 08:43 PM

my prayers to the friends and family of those killed or hurt.

AlexMack 04-16-2007 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MSKKG (Post 1430730)
I don't want to hear about his tortured childhood or anything else that puts any blame on anyone other than him. No one has a perfect life or childhood/adult experiences. For crying out loud, people, TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS!!! If what another poster said was correct, he did this because his grades suffered after his girlfriend broke up with him?!? There are just no words for my outrage!

I completely understand what you're saying and I am in no way trying to make light of his actions-but, and this is a very big but, what if there was mental illness involved? It doesn't pardon him, it will never make up for the losses, the tragedy and the lives he took, and it doesn't excuse him, but someone who doesn't have complete control of their mental faculties is slightly different from bad grades from a breakup.
Again, it may not be mental illness at all, but I suppose nobody will know for quite sometime. This whole situation has me on the brink of tears and my heart broken. Nothing will ever excuse this, but the reason why may at least fill a void and provide an answer.

ClassicBeauty 04-16-2007 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by L.O.C.K. (Post 1430685)
Yea, my brothers girlfriend is a Pi Phi at VTech and her best friend got shot in French class I think. Apparently the dude came in shot the professor point blank, and then started firing into the students.

She was shot in the chest, but apparently is ok.

OMG! That's horrible. Have you heard about any updates on her? Things like this make me sick.

Goldenphoenix 04-16-2007 09:01 PM

Words of support from a non-GLO member
 
I would first like to offer my support to the VT community, especially to the friends and family of victims of the shootings. I would also like to suggest that if the shooter had been in a GLO - I've heard nothing to suggest he was - he would more than likely have received support and help through whatever difficult times he was going through, and - I'm just being truthful here - we may well have not seen the awful tragedy that unfolded today. That doesn't assuage grief, but it does give pause to know that the deep relationships that are made through families and social organizations can help us through our darkest moments. Thanks to all who have contributed so caringly here. That your hearts share in the grief of the VT community helps in the bearing of a sorrowful burden.
-Goldenphoenix

Drolefille 04-16-2007 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Buttonz (Post 1430754)
Nothing you said sounded harsh IMO. Your 100% right. I know people, including myself, who have been picked on their entire life...I don't see any of us going around shooting people. There is no excuse at all for this.



Not saying that it makes him any less responsible, but if someone already has a twisted mind, the video games don't help at all. Have you ever seen some of them like Counter Strike?

Believe me, I've played a lot of violent video games. I don't have the urge to go shoot anyone.

Clearly someone who does this has serious mental issues. But if video games are going to cause you to shoot someone, you've jumped off the sanity train long ago...

Buttonz 04-16-2007 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1430774)
Believe me, I've played a lot of violent video games. I don't have the urge to go shoot anyone.

Clearly someone who does this has serious mental issues. But if video games are going to cause you to shoot someone, you've jumped off the sanity train long ago...

I didn't say that the video games are what caused this. I said, and I quote, "f someone already has a twisted mind, the video games don't help at all". Meaning if they are off balanced to start with...the video games don't help.

On another note...I wonder what Jodi Picoult would have to say about this. Her latest book is about a school shooting and when she did the signing of her book at the local Border's she talked about school shootings a little.

ASUADPi 04-16-2007 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Buttonz (Post 1430777)


On another note...I wonder what Jodi Picoult would have to say about this. Her latest book is about a school shooting and when she did the signing of her book at the local Border's she talked about school shootings a little.

[mini-hijack]
19 Minutes. It's on the New York Times Bestseller list. Number 1 I think. I read it. Good book. She really goes into detail and you honestly start to question everything. Your own thoughts and morals. You question why people are allowed to treat others this way. It's a good read but you really have to be in the right mindset to read it.

With that being said, right now would probably not be the best time. In her story, the shooter survives and she goes into detail of the torment the person put up with. As a person it horrified me and as a teacher I was beyond appalled. And it was a book!

But I highly recommend it. Awesome book.[/end mini-hijack]

Drolefille 04-16-2007 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Buttonz (Post 1430777)
I didn't say that the video games are what caused this. I said, and I quote, "f someone already has a twisted mind, the video games don't help at all". Meaning if they are off balanced to start with...the video games don't help.

On another note...I wonder what Jodi Picoult would have to say about this. Her latest book is about a school shooting and when she did the signing of her book at the local Border's she talked about school shootings a little.

Yes but you can say that about any sort of media really. And there really isn't any sign of causation between video games and violence even with people who already have mental issues.

CrimsonTide4 04-16-2007 09:18 PM

Mu Alpha chapter of Delta Sigma Theta is safe and unharmed.

Prayers to the campus and family of the Virginia Tech students, faculty, and staff.

Drolefille 04-16-2007 09:18 PM

BTW, I can't remember if this was mentioned, but I looked it up for my sister. Tri Delta's members are all accounted for


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