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ladygreek 11-28-2006 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1363558)
I think people throw around the word "ignorant" too much. It wasn't an ignorant thing to say, it was a hateful and heat of the moment thing to say.

You just can't agree with something, can you? For some reason you always need to put a point of disagreement in there. LOL

neosoul 11-28-2006 07:04 PM

is it gonna be on Pay-per-view?

PhrozenGod01 11-28-2006 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by neosoul (Post 1363586)
is it gonna be on Pay-per-view?

For sure. My money would be on Richards. He's really squirrely.

shinerbock 11-28-2006 09:15 PM

Well its true, I don't think he's ignorant. I feel everyone is entitled to my opinion.

DSTCHAOS 11-28-2006 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1363637)
I feel everyone is entitled to my opinion.

"I'll tell you what to think."

KAPPAtivating 11-29-2006 12:53 AM

It was very ignorant for him to say those things. I'm sure he feels the same way. It was not in his best interest to say those things to hurt the heckler's feelings. Now it is going to cost him probably. I almost think there should be litigation over it because it teaches a lesson to him as well as others about choosing words carefully. Especially when you are rich!

laylo 11-29-2006 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1363558)
I'm sure there are people who in a heated argument with their gay best friend may go "you faggot!" but I don't think that makes them a homophobe, it just means they were going for the lowest possible blow at the time.

Even if someone would do this, would (s)he also say "Back in the day we'd have had you strung to a post and lit fire to your ass!"?

He made the lynching comment, followed by "you can talk, you're brave now motherf***er" and "That's what happens when you interrupt the White man". He was clearly implying that Blacks have stepped out of their place now that violence is no longer an accepted means of keeping them in it. I don't understand how people can seperate this from racism. Furthermore, it isn't as if the comment toward him was vile enough to evoke the lowest possible blow, the man just said he wasn't funny. And regardless, I personally don't think "I was angry" negates everything someone says in anger. Men who beat their wives do so in anger, that doesn't seperate the problem of violence against women from sexism.

AKA_Monet 11-29-2006 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by laylo (Post 1363760)
Men who beat their wives do so in anger, that doesn't seperate the problem of violence against women from sexism.

Men who beat their wives do so as a power trip... It has nothing to do with anger, which in psychological terms means being upset about an unfavorable condition. It has to do with resentment, that which is beyond anger, and rage, uncontrollable anger--like being Anakin coverted to the Dark Side of the Force...

And that is how MANY African Americans think of what racism is. It is mostly about domination and power, it is energy is perpetuated by resentment and rage.

I bet the Kramer dude was shaking after he wailed on his tirade and rant...

shinerbock 11-29-2006 08:54 AM

And I agree, if he is racist (who really cares anymore, I don't think it changes much), the lynching comments are the indicator. However, I don't know, maybe its just because I've been around racists, his rant just doesn't come off as what a racist would say. I still think its a combination of rage, over the top comedy, and an effort strike the core of the people who were insulting him. Of course, he could just be racist, i just have doubts.

DSTKellie 11-29-2006 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by laylo (Post 1363760)
Even if someone would do this, would (s)he also say "Back in the day we'd have had you strung to a post and lit fire to your ass!"?

He made the lynching comment, followed by "you can talk, you're brave now motherf***er" and "That's what happens when you interrupt the White man". He was clearly implying that Blacks have stepped out of their place now that violence is no longer an accepted means of keeping them in it. I don't understand how people can seperate this from racism. Furthermore, it isn't as if the comment toward him was vile enough to evoke the lowest possible blow, the man just said he wasn't funny. And regardless, I personally don't think "I was angry" negates everything someone says in anger. Men who beat their wives do so in anger, that doesn't seperate the problem of violence against women from sexism.

Good point, I agree.

mccoyred 11-29-2006 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by KAPPAtivating (Post 1363733)
It was very ignorant for him to say those things. I'm sure he feels the same way. It was not in his best interest to say those things to hurt the heckler's feelings. Now it is going to cost him probably. I almost think there should be litigation over it because it teaches a lesson to him as well as others about choosing words carefully. Especially when you are rich!


Once again, we are >here<

If people don't FEEL and THINK something, then they don't SAY it. Things said in the heat of anger reflect subconcious feelings and thoughts because the higher brain functions are overridden by the fight/flight response which is based in the lower brain functions that control survival instincts.

FeeFee 11-30-2006 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mccoyred (Post 1363796)
Once again, we are >here<

If people don't FEEL and THINK something, then they don't SAY it. Things said in the heat of anger reflect subconcious feelings and thoughts because the higher brain functions are overridden by the fight/flight response which is based in the lower brain functions that control survival instincts.


EXACTLY!!!!


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