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I never took an oath to become a preacher. When God calls you ...you just start preaching.

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Originally Posted by beverysure

I never took an oath to become a preacher. When God calls you ...you just start preaching.

This made me chuckle.

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Originally Posted by beverysure

I never took an oath to become a preacher. When God calls you ...you just start preaching.

Thats bogus!! There is more to it than that. Maybe you are missing something if you think it just that simple.

I thought that you had to go through training and basically be taught by someone who has been a preacher before, and take an oath:confused: I didn't know that someone could just become a preacher all of a sudden.

But whatever the situation the point was lost and/or shifted from the point that I am making. There are so many organizations out there that are meant to better and help people. We may fall short in some areas and there is no way that we can please everyone, but if so much good is coming from these organizations, why do people try to condemn us?

I support other organizations that are out there busting their butts and pockets to help others that can't help themselves. My other question is what types of community service and aid are those that are against masonic & BGLO's do on their own?

Not to avoid the question of IASKTHEQUESTION, but honestly the way that many of our organizations are, responding to your questions about exactly how our organizations are bible based, would be divulging of information that we are unable to do. I didn't want you to think that we were ignoring your question though.

Back to the topic at hand of sisters and brothers communicating their chapters, stations, & activities.

Love you all!

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Originally Posted by whiteandblack

Ruth Chapter #102, PHA
Nabbar Ct., D.O.I. #123
Atlanta, Ga.

This month we have our Potentate and Commadress Ball, and next month we have the Atlanta District 3 School of Instruction and the Imperial Session. We do various volunteer work around the community (last weekend we had our local Feed the Hungry drive), but I'm working with the Chapter to link up with Habitat for Humanity.

I'm curious PHA_luv, are you a teacher, psychologist...? I enjoy reading your responses, because I, along with Blessedone04, was wanting to label beverysure an antagonist but you help put a different light on the situation.

You are correct Sis/Dt. We do a LOT of volunteer work and community service in helping others. IMO THIS is what matters and falls right in line with what our five heriones stand for. All of our organizations (Masonry, OES, BGLO's) work for the betterment of our communities. This Fred Hatchett mentality has been around for a long time, so all we need to do is to continue to let our lights shine and support each other in our good deeds!

BTW, the Ball was LOTS of fun!

Man made churches got all kinds of rules and regulations confirmations and ordinations But when you are touched by the master JESUS CHRIST rivers of living water will flow out of your belly. I know little kids who preach. All saints, thats born again believers, are preachers.:)
Where did Paul who has written most of the new testament learn how to do what he did after he got knocked off that horse?:cool:

EMPOWER THE PEOPLE by TONY BROWN

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/boo...sbn=0688169740

This book is off the chain.:eek: Proud Alphaman Tony Brown puts out a classic.
bglo /masons really need to peep this.
I was shocked at first but he has always thought outside of the box. :cool: www.tonybrown.com

Community Service & Programs

So what are some more of the community service & chapter/lodge programs that the Sisters & Brothers have during the upcoming year? Doesn't matter what houses you are a part of

Right On, SiSstar!

Star, You are so right on point. I don't understand why people choose to remain in the dark. I to have done some fairly extensive research myself. Give me a shout out when possible perhaps we should compare info. Some people think I should publish the info that I've found but I don't think that it is for everyone to know.

Queen Esther #9
Detroit, MI
AF&AM

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Originally Posted by beverysure

Originally posted by hiram7500
I am an OES member. My husband is a Mason.
I have spent 8 years researching masonry to it's roots.
I regret to inform you that with all your so-called education, you - none of you who are condemning Masonry or OES know what you're talking about.

Hiram Abiff is symbolic of a 'Master Builder' one who strives to make him self godlike. He appreciates others and respects their religious choice un like any of you.

Christianity, Islam, buddisim teaches their members that all other religions are false and the work of the devil. Right?
Well guess what--there is no devil! It's all made up! That's right.
All made up by the catholic church to control you..your thoughts.. your life.

Your reference to the http://www.ephesians5-11.org/ website is absolutely the WRONG PLACE TO LOOK for the truth. All they want is to KEEP YOU FROM finding it.

The historical beginnings of christianity are where you need to look...Jesus had nothing to do with it's present form. He was a highly educated GNOSTIC...and married....and had children!

May I recommend
http://www.mastermason.com/hiramdis...istmission.html
Then I recommend you read how the christians had millions of Gnostics murdered to shut them up. They created Islam too. Then they systamatically went about murdering as many Jews as possible. Hitler was a catholic.

Those of you who call your selves born again christians are being lied to. And there is definately a 'wolf in sheeps clothing' hiding there. It isn't Masons..but it all started with the catholic church!!

I would also appreciate it if you wouldn't use my web site with "a devil in hiding" sort of description. All I've done is expose the real truth..a truth you refuse to even research.

Why do you think there was even such a thing as 'The Dark Ages'? Dark because everything was hidden, kept secret, denigned.... And still is by the church.
The nations not affected by the catholic church went about their business of scientific progress, including the practice of medicine, mathmetics, and building. This is where the Mason's come in...they were builders - highly trained mathmeticians. That is why geometry is associated with Masonry. You might want to check out the real 'forbidden secrets'... see http://www.mastermason.com/hiramdis.../forbidden.html
for a sampleing.

Why can't we just all believe in Jesus and leave it at that?

Is this the DAVINCI CODE or what?This OES is on pointThe historical beginnings of christianity are where you need to look...Jesus had nothing to do with it's present form. He was a highly educated GNOSTIC...and married....and had children!

Grand Chapter State of New York OES site has changed

Greetings all,

The Website for the Grand Chapter State of New York Order of Eastern Star has changed. http://nyoes.org//images/oes-web.jpg

Our new website is : http://www.nyoes.org

Michelle

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Originally Posted by michellem (Post 1320875)

Greetings all,

The Website for the Grand Chapter State of New York Order of Eastern Star has changed. http://nyoes.org//images/oes-web.jpg

Our new website is : http://www.nyoes.org

Michelle

The link doesn't work. :(

I am also a member of the Order of Eastern Star as of May 20, 2006 Laurel Creek Chapter No. 165. I am very new to this organization, but very proud to be a member of it. I am also interested in learning more information about Sigma Gamma Rho Sorority Inc. and the members here on greekchat!

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Originally Posted by IASKTHEQUESTION (Post 1284240)

Even if you say you don't serve other God's in the organization (I'll give you that right now) you do have to take an oath (pledge) to enter into the organization which is strictly forbodden in the bible. If you are saved (which I believe you are) the only brotherhood you need is the BODY of CHRIST, it does say so many times in the bible that we are indeed brethren, so I'm just curious to know, what does the Masons give you that the BODY of CHRIST doesn't?

I have been reading what many of you written, some I had to shake my head in disbelief, but this is one I had to comment on.... I am having problems with the term "it does say so many times in the bible" or "strictly forbidden in the bible" The Bible is a book of FAITH, it is not the absolute truth the ONE AND ONLY TRUTH. NO BOOK WRITTEN REVEALS AN ABSOLUTE TRUTH. The BIBLE is a book created by MAN and we all know man has flaws. MAN's interpretation of what ANOTHER MAN thinks what GOD said written down by yet ANOTHER MAN and in english of all languages. A lost in translation type of feel. THE ONE AND ONLY TRUTH IS YOUR PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD. Each persons relationship is different.

If a person chooses to affiliate themselves with an XYZ or Masonic organization and also love's his/her GOD. We as children of GOD should not question it. The Bible, Torah, Qu'ran, Piby, etc. are great and spiritually powerful books of faith, but, there is ONLY ONE place where the ABSOLUTE TRUTH is written and that is in your HEART; guess what...only GOD can read it.

I rarely like answering a question with a question but with this one, I will

"what does the Masons give you that the BODY of CHRIST doesn't?"

-What does joining a church give you that the BODY of CHRIST doesn't?
-What does joining groups within the church (choir, etc) give you that the BODY of CHRIST doesn't?
-What does going on church functions give you that the BODY of CHRIST doesn't?
-What does listening to Gospel give you that the BODY of CHRIST doesn't?
-What does falling in love or getting married give you that the BODY of CHRIST doesn't?

Peace, blessings and understanding of self in relationship to GOD to everyone.

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Originally Posted by beverysure (Post 1288518)

Uh....

Anyway, I've always loved Tony Brown eversince I used to watch Tony Brown's Journal on PBS with my parents when I was little. I never saw him as "thinking outside of the box" as much as he was a voice of reason when many people were too busy getting riled up.

Hello, I am interested in learning more about OES. From what I've read so far you have to be directly related to an OES or Mason member. This puts me at a disadvantage because I am the first generation in my family to express interest in bglo and/or masonic orgs. Generally, in my case, is there a way around that. For example, I know a Mason personally...could be sponsor me since there would be no other way for me to get a blood relative sponsor?