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Kevin 08-26-2004 04:16 PM

All Togglecase and leetspeak are annoying.

It's like the language you use when speaking to people directly. If you use profane language constantly, people will make judgements about your intelligence (or level of sobriety). Proper grammar is the way to go.

That said, I never saw this problem on GC since we're (for the most part) educated people.

dakareng 08-26-2004 11:29 PM

I'm not sure if this is leetspeak or AIM or text message talk but I am annoyed by the shortening of words that are not intended to be abbreviated. Words like because. I saw a thank you note from a mother of one of our graduates (OK, NICU graduate so it is appropriate for the mother to write it) that used b/c for because. I'm seeing more and more of what I call 'lazy writing'. The abbreviations and shortcuts are so rampant that there are times that I can't understand the notes in the chart. Am I the only one who thinks this looks ignorant? Didn't the writer pass 2nd grade spelling? It is one thing to shorten words when text messaging but totally inappropriate in a formal letter, even a handwritten thank you note.

33girl 08-27-2004 12:52 AM

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Originally posted by dakareng
I'm not sure if this is leetspeak or AIM or text message talk but I am annoyed by the shortening of words that are not intended to be abbreviated. Words like because. I saw a thank you note from a mother of one of our graduates (OK, NICU graduate so it is appropriate for the mother to write it) that used b/c for because. I'm seeing more and more of what I call 'lazy writing'. The abbreviations and shortcuts are so rampant that there are times that I can't understand the notes in the chart. Am I the only one who thinks this looks ignorant? Didn't the writer pass 2nd grade spelling? It is one thing to shorten words when text messaging but totally inappropriate in a formal letter, even a handwritten thank you note.
I think things like b/c, w/ (for with) and tx (for thanks) are more a leftover from shorthand or speedwriting than anything "modern." Although they are never appropriate in a formal letter or note.

SSS1365 08-27-2004 09:50 AM

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Originally posted by 33girl
I think things like b/c, w/ (for with) and tx (for thanks) are more a leftover from shorthand or speedwriting than anything "modern." Although they are never appropriate in a formal letter or note.
I agree. I always used those abbreviations when taking notes in class. But I would never write a letter using them!

Kevin 08-27-2004 09:54 AM

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Originally posted by 33girl
I think things like b/c, w/ (for with) and tx (for thanks) are more a leftover from shorthand or speedwriting than anything "modern." Although they are never appropriate in a formal letter or note.
I use those types of abbreviations when taking notes all of the time.

Nothing wrong with it.

dakareng 08-27-2004 07:20 PM

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Originally posted by ktsnake
I use those types of abbreviations when taking notes all of the time.

Nothing wrong with it.

But would you use them in a formal letter? That's what annoys me. Sure, we all had ways to speed write while taking notes and that's fine. As long as you can read your own writing you can do whatever you want. It's when speedwriting is used in business communication that I question it.

Unregistered- 08-27-2004 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by ariesrising

I wonder if cuz will make it into the dictionary one day?

Highly likely. I mean if "DOH!" and "bling bling" already made it in, then cuz should have been there a long time ago!

Kevin 08-28-2004 09:11 AM

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Originally posted by dakareng
But would you use them in a formal letter? That's what annoys me. Sure, we all had ways to speed write while taking notes and that's fine. As long as you can read your own writing you can do whatever you want. It's when speedwriting is used in business communication that I question it.
They don't teach kids these things in school.

If I were a teacher and I caught kids passing notes, I'd mark 'em up with a red pen and make them correct the notes ;).

I don't think that kids know when to use what type of language. They don't understand the concept of "code switching". Do any of you who teach see "cuz" and "u" and such on papers and written portions of claswork?

KappaKittyCat 08-28-2004 10:47 AM

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Originally posted by ktsnake
Do any of you who teach see "cuz" and "u" and such on papers and written portions of classwork?
Yes. Yes, I did. And the class then got a five-minute lecture on when such writing is appropriate and when it is not. I think they were really, really surprised to hear it from me, seeing as how I was their MUSIC teacher.

PM_Mama00 08-28-2004 10:54 AM

I use prolly, cuz, and other stuff because when I'm typing in here or my Lj or in informal emails, I just write like I'd speak and normally I'm typing really fast.

Does it really bother people that much to see "cuz" and "prolly"? Just wondering. It's such a bad habit that I do end up typing that stuff in papers.

tlnancy 09-05-2004 08:28 PM

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Kevin 09-06-2004 08:39 AM

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Originally posted by KappaKittyCat
Yes. Yes, I did. And the class then got a five-minute lecture on when such writing is appropriate and when it is not. I think they were really, really surprised to hear it from me, seeing as how I was their MUSIC teacher.
What are their english teachers tecahing them?

Amazing.

kk_bama 09-06-2004 10:54 PM

OK, I have to say something:


My now-defunct AOL screenname from middle school was written in toggle. I think it was SpOiLeD something-or-other.


There, I admit it.


;)

GeekyPenguin 09-06-2004 11:02 PM

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Originally posted by kk_gphib_01
OK, I have to say something:


My now-defunct AOL screenname from middle school was written in toggle. I think it was SpOiLeD something-or-other.


There, I admit it.


;)

Please give your badge back.

kk_bama 09-07-2004 02:31 PM

I'm sending it into IH today. Or back to my sister, since it's hers too. ::tear::


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