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Originally posted by wptw
Wow, this thread may already be too far gone, but it's a really interesting question so here's my attempt to rescue it...

First, there's a distinction to be made. There are calls that the D9 folks have been discussing - these are generally a fairly modern invention, public in nature (even if "proprietary" to the group), primarily for the purpose of promoting the group, and non-ritualistic. Then there are the calls, whistles, etc. that I think ariesrising was originally asking about. These are ritualisitc features; formal, secret, added to the written rituals of quite a few fraternities and sororites.

The ritualistic convention of using a call or whistle is primarily seen in Era I GLOs - those founded in the early and mid-1800s. (later fraternities and sororities undoubtedly copied them without really knowing the original purpose).

Remember that GLO membership (in fact, almost any form of student organization) was largely forbidden at a lot of colleges in this time period. If it became known that a person was a member of a GLO, there would certainly be some kind of faculty retribution and in fact that person would likely be expelled. So... Badges and letters and crests were not openly displayed. Badges were often worn inside a jacket lapel. Ritualistic meetings were held at some secret place. Codes were used to announce meetings and for any public correspondence. And the members necessarily developed whistles and calls and secret words as a way to identify themselves without arousing attention.

That's the history of calls, whistles, snaps, hand signs, etc. Later groups no doubt adopted these because they do add a bit of clandestine flair.

So, maybe Phi Mu did copy the DST yell. Maybe not. Who cares? Both groups took the original concept from an Era I fraternity anyway. There's nothing new under the sun.

Frankly, it is interesting though... the practice started as a way to secretly identify yourself, and today it has evolved into a way of proudly announcing or promoting yourself.

wptw

Thank you...someone who actually sticks to the point of the thread and doesn't get in everyone's face. As another AOII said earlier, AOII did have a call, and I've been trying to figure it out since I've been a collegiate/alum...so going on 10 years, and I still don't know it. I don't know of any AOIIs that know it, though I will have to go ask some of the little old ladies at the next Founder's Day...Maybe they might have some insight.:)

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Originally posted by AOII_LB93
Thank you...someone who actually sticks to the point of the thread and doesn't get in everyone's face.

Maybe you need to re-read his/her post, then.

If you all want this "topic" to die down, and return to the original topic...TRULY let it die down :p

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Originally posted by ChaosDST
Maybe you need to re-read his/her post, then.

If you all want this "topic" to die down, and return to the original topic...TRULY let it die down :p

I did stick to the topic. I wrote about the AOII call. :) And I was giving him some props for talking about the history of calls. Is this a bad thing? No need to be hostile to me, thanks.

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Originally posted by AOII_LB93
No need to be hostile to me, thanks.

:rolleyes:

Chaos, clearly you don't like my answer to the original question. But in rereading this whole thread I don't see where you've come up with an answer of your own. Since you're urging us to return to the original topic, here it is:

"NPC sororities with calls? I remember a post a looong time ago where CutiePie2000 mentioned she found that Delta Gamma used to have a call. I'm curious, do any of the other NPC have or used to have one? What is it? Why do you think it's not used?"

What's your opinion? Are you here to debate or just to practice sarcastic potshots and ":rolleyes:" smilies?

wptw

I think that some people may not be responding to the thread's original question because sometimes these things (well, whistles at least) are part of ritual.

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Originally posted by wptw
Chaos, clearly you don't like my answer to the original question. But in rereading this whole thread I don't see where you've come up with an answer of your own. Since you're urging us to return to the original topic, here it is:

"NPC sororities with calls? I remember a post a looong time ago where CutiePie2000 mentioned she found that Delta Gamma used to have a call. I'm curious, do any of the other NPC have or used to have one? What is it? Why do you think it's not used?"

What's your opinion? Are you here to debate or just to practice sarcastic potshots and ":rolleyes:" smilies?

wptw

Did I ever say I didn't like your answer to the question? I happen to disagree with the part that I've already addressed. Feel free to re-read my response to it, if your memory fails you.

I never urged you to go back to the original topic. I said "if you all want to let this "topic" die and go back to the original topic, TRULY let it die." That simply means to leave out snide remarks and TRULY move on.

My original intent behind posting was for clarity. The debate portion of that ended a while ago. So, 6 pages later, I'm just here to practice sarcastic potshots and ":rolleyes:" smilies. Good observation, Watson!

I've said my piece. Peace.

Yes, indeed my memory fails me and even on rereading your responses I am unable to find your point. Do you have one? If so, perhaps you could do me the courtesy of repeating it in very simple terms so I can wrap my feeble mind around it.

Humor me.

wptw

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Originally posted by wptw
Yes, indeed my memory fails me and even on rereading your responses I am unable to find your point. Do you have one?

Instant Vintage.

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Originally posted by wptw
Yes, indeed my memory fails me and even on rereading your responses I am unable to find your point. Do you have one? If so, perhaps you could do me the courtesy of repeating it in very simple terms so I can wrap my feeble mind around it.

Humor me.

wptw

My point TO YOU is that you NEVER understood what my inquiry was about. So my advice TO YOU would be either:

1) read from the beginning of the deviation from the original topic

ORRRRR

2) get over it and move on

I suggest 2 because I've never been good at humoring people. So, wrap your "feeble mind" around that.

Take care :cool:

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Originally posted by Senusret I
Instant Vintage.

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.....

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Originally posted by ChaosDST
Take care :cool:

You keep saying take care, yet you don't go away.

:rolleyes:

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Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
You keep saying take care, yet you don't go away.

:rolleyes:

Nope :cool:

I always return when someone posts to me.

Hint, hint........

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My point TO YOU is that you NEVER understood what my inquiry was about.

Ohhhhhhhh, OK. Thanks. Now I see!

See, I never gave a crap about your inquiry.

Still don’t.

I was addressing the original topic. Quite correctly, I might add. Like it or not, both the NPC and the D9 inherited this particular convention.

night night

wptw

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Originally posted by The Grapist
This post has been graped by the Grapist! Find another board to troll ANGRY black woman!

wow, was all of this really needed?