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Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands
(Post 2514087)
Then what’s the point of saying life in prison without parole? That’s really stupid and makes no sense. No parole should mean no parole.
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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek
(Post 2514119)
Right?? I mean, that’s literally what I’ve always thought too. Like, if you say “life without parole”, that should be it. Period. No fine print, no “well technically, if the moon is in retrograde and a governor 30 years from now gets sentimental…” uhh… yeah. No.
But apparently, there’s always this tiny back door left open, like clemency or a pardon, even if it’s super rare. It’s more of a legal technicality than a realistic option, but still. I think they do it to give the justice system flexibility in case something comes to light, like wrongful conviction? Maybe? I don’t really know exactly. But let’s be honest, it also makes it feel like even the most final sounding sentences have a “maybe” clause. Know what I mean? And for victims families? That’s gotta be brutal.
So yeah… I agree with you, Phrozen. No parole should mean no parole. Not “mostly no” with a legal asterisk.
“Justice” in America depends less on what’s right, and more on what can be proven and collected. It makes sense but doesn’t make sense too, depending on the crime.
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You’re right, but technically there’s a difference between sentencing guidelines and constitutional authority.
Governors and presidents have clemency power, and that includes pardons and commutations, like you mentioned. But it exists to correct injustices like if new evidence surfaces years later, or if someone was clearly sentenced unfairly under outdated laws. It’s not about being sentimental (though that happens), it’s about preserving a failsafe in the justice system.
You’re also right that it can feel like a “maybe clause” for sentences that should feel final. And that’s hard, especially for victims families. But from a legal standpoint, the idea is no system run by people will ever be perfect, so we build in rare exceptions just in case.
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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek
(Post 2514128)
Anyone else think BK dodged the bullet like I do?
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I don’t think he dodged the bullet, I think he jumped right in front of it. I get that you believe in the death penalty, but I’d rather be dead than spend life in prison. And I don’t say that lightly.
When you strip someone of freedom, you’re not just taking away physical movement, you’re erasing their sense of purpose, privacy, and identity. As a school teacher, I’ve spent my life believing in growth, contribution, and connection. Prison is the antithesis of all of that. It’s a system built to contain, not to heal. That’s why I don’t know why they’re called “corrections” or “correctional facilities”. People come out worse than they were when they went in.
You wake up in a cage, go to sleep in a cage, and every decision — what you eat, when you speak, where you stand belongs to someone else. You become a number, not a name. For some people, that’s survivable. For me, that’s not life. That’s existing inside a slow death.
I believe in accountability, no doubt. But if I were ever in a position where my actions earned me life behind bars, I’d rather face the final consequence than live out my days in a concrete box. I’ll take the lethal injection. A couple of jolts, a few quick spasms, and I’m free.