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GCers typically love a good debate. It can get heated. There are some dissenting opinions that can rub people the wrong way and especially with a particular tone. Every GCer gets told to fuck off if people tire of our message and/or our tone. That includes being placed on "ignore". Honorgal is not exceptional in this and, again, will not be able to martyrize herself.
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I'm definitely not suffering. Fascinated would be a better description. Placing someone on ignore always conjures up a tantruming child sticking their fingers in their ears and humming "lalalalalalalalala". But, whatever floats your boat. |
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It is one thing to think people are clueless and shortsighted regarding a topic, I think that quite often in GC discussions. But you come across as though you think you have some inside knowledge of campus dynamics that is not shared with the "group thinkers". You are certainly not the only GCer who either knows people who work in a college/university or works at a college/university. You are also not the only GCer who knows alleged victims, alleged perpetrators, people who lied, people who were falsely accused, alleged victims who were telling the truth, etc. Therefore, many of us are well aware of these dynamics and still manage to have varying perspectives. Quote:
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Anyway, back to the topic at hand...the language in Title IX puts reporting responsibility on anyone who a student could reasonably perceive to be representing the school, and there seems to be a growing consensus that such language includes a much larger number of faculty/staff members than had previously been trained on this stuff. I found this pretty surprising, because that means that, at some schools, students could report stuff to their academic adviser or professors or RA's, for example, and it wouldn't have gone anywhere. I'm glad that schools are working to remedy that, because 1) it means we'll get a better idea of the true stats, and from there, possibly be better able to address root causes, and 2) it means that victims who are reporting stuff are going to get the appropriate support at the U, rather than some untrained faculty or staff member having no idea what to do.
This aspect, at least, seems very uncontroversial. I don't see how it could possibly be a bad thing to make sure students get the proper support, and the fact that processes were this sloppy in the past underscores, IMO, the need for all these investigations and the attention to this issue. |
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http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/lis...cs/shguide.pdf http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/lis...4-title-ix.pdf http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/lis...gue-201104.pdf |
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Oh crap, not Princeton Mom again. Attention whore.
While we're at it, for most violent offenses and property offenses, the offender-victim relationship is that of family, friend, or acquaintance. So, to save some much needed resources, let's remove all of these offenses from the books so they can no longer be punishable under the law. Unless you've been victimized by a complete stranger, there is nothing society and the criminal justice system can and will do to help. I hope it was all a learning experience. Choose better company next time because, after all, we are the company we keep. |
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ETA: My bias is not against any victim. My bias is against political ideology that has no principles and no regard for truth or facts. Last edited by honorgal; Yesterday at 05:16 PM. http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums...tons/quote.gif http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums...iquote_off.gif It is clear to me that this has been a political rant all along. Go to any right wing blog like Free Republic dot com and you will find the same language. Honorgal posted a link to that very blog on her first go-around on this topic last spring. People on that particular blog are often told to go "Freep" online polls and message boards. Now where is the "Ignore" button? |
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