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Kevin 04-24-2013 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by amIblue? (Post 2214304)
However, being rude in order to encourage said participation and manners, probably not the best way to go.
I keep repeating this for whatever reason, but for all anyone here knows, she was trying to be funny, and if so, high five.

jazing 04-24-2013 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 2214229)
someone frequents TFM ...

https://www.facebook.com/deltagamma/...51546640902450

DG with an official statement. Seems she resigned her membership.

amIblue? 04-24-2013 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 2214308)
I keep repeating this for whatever reason, but for all anyone here knows, she was trying to be funny, and if so, high five.
I thought it was funny when I thought it wasn't real. I posted as much in this thread. Now that I know otherwise, not so much. I also know of one blogger who has given her an opportunity to write for him. (Clay Travis of outkickthecoverage). She'll be fine.

ms_gwyn 04-24-2013 06:47 PM
Its unfortunate that this situation was brought to the public eye and this young lady was "forced" (for lack of a better word) to resign her membership. I just wished that she had taken a step back for a minute, after venting her frustration and wrote the email in a more appropriate tone. Again, I have no problem with the basic sentiment of the email....but the tone was wrong.

I have no problem with the email, obviously other do/did.....

33girl 04-24-2013 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 2214287)
The same goes for fraternities. In what world are you not judged by the company you keep? What's wrong with that?

Besides, that's not what this is about at all. This message wasn't about hanging out with Sigma Nu, this was about working with the fraternity you're paired with for Greek Week. I'm not sure how it is at UMD, but in other places, if not most other places, the selections are more-less random or based on the size of the house and not based upon the preference of the members.
Our float/homecoming pairings were never random, you had to be asked. If it was a school where pairings WERE random, I doubt a group's actions during that period would carry as much weight as it apparently does at UMD. FWIW, it seemed to me more like Sigma Nu IS a popular fraternity there but the sisters are in a rut and would rather stick with the less flashy groups they are more comfortable with. That's how I took it anyway, someone at UMD could probably make it make more sense.

amIblue? 04-25-2013 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2214402)
Our float/homecoming pairings were never random, you had to be asked. If it was a school where pairings WERE random, I doubt a group's actions during that period would carry as much weight as it apparently does at UMD. FWIW, it seemed to me more like Sigma Nu IS a popular fraternity there but the sisters are in a rut and would rather stick with the less flashy groups they are more comfortable with. That's how I took it anyway, someone at UMD could probably make it make more sense.
Most pairings (homecoming, all sing, carnicus) were not random in my days as an active at Tennessee, but Greek Week was. Maryland could operate similarly.

ThetaPrincess24 04-25-2013 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 2214308)
I keep repeating this for whatever reason, but for all anyone here knows, she was trying to be funny, and if so, high five.
Doesn't matter. I've seen shenanigans in my own time as an advisor where someone has tried to be funny in public at a fraternity competition event, and it ended up being a complete PR disaster. And as I stated previously here about my hunch that this individual has probably been a problem before, the same was true in my instance, and unfortunately while intents may be for humor, the consequence can be one's membership. Maybe it is just me, but my gut says this was not written for the purpose of a laugh.

adpiucf 04-25-2013 10:02 AM
Agreed. People that flip out like this in an email are inclined to do it in person. That type of "leadership" doesn't inspire people to follow you; it just makes you look like a hot mess that no one wants to be associated with. It's immature. And yes, it's very funny when you're looking from the outside in. It's uncomfortable and upsetting when you're the one being screamed at.

I think it is unfortunate the student resigned from her sorority. Now we just have a bitter ex member who will probably tell everyone how her sorority screwed her over. I think it would have been good for her to stick it out by stepping down from her position and learning how to work with a group. But this was a lesson for her and hopefully she will think twice about how she communicates in the future. She's gotten her 15 minutes of fame, and I'm sure she will be fine-- maybe even get a blog or book deal going.

She's not saying anything some of us haven't felt in trying to "motivate" others; the difference is that you need to think before you speak/send and put yourself in the listener's shoes to see if what you're trying to convey will be heard and if they will be receptive. I hope that lesson has been learned. I think that this incident will be the topic of conversation for a while and lead chapters to discuss positive PR, proper motivating words, and leadership.

AZTheta 04-25-2013 10:55 AM
I dunno. Been watching this unfold. As I repeatedly say it could be any one of our members. Not judging. Humor is individual. I think Calvin and Hobbes is awesome and other people think the opposite.

Do think that the Internet and living so publicly "in your face" and glorifying public figures has inured us to accepting questionable/tasteless behavior.

That email is the kind of thing (meaning a rant, not necessarily that exact email - but a rant, nonetheless) I might write and stick in a draft folder and look at in a week. She hit the send button. Sigh.

greekdee 04-25-2013 10:57 AM
I've always been warned, "it's not what you say, it's how you say it." I've tried to imagine what I would think if I was this girl's mother. Frankly, I can't imagine being her mother, but I'll bet her parents are not among those who find the letter hilarious, nor her tweets or the aftermath of everything going viral.

As far as her resignation goes, does anyone know if she was asked to resign or if she stepped down and out of her own accord?

agzg 04-25-2013 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by LaneSig (Post 2214278)
I'm going to side with Deranged Sorority Girl on one point, and it goes both ways - sorority to fraternity/fraternity to sorority.

If you are teamed up with a group during an activity(Homecoming, Greek Week, Step Sing, etc), it is extremely rude of you to talk about all the things you do with another group of the same gender as your teammates. If you are in Omega Chi Delta fraternity, teamed up with Gamma Psi sorority, do not spend a lot of time talking about how much fun you have hanging out with Zeta Beta Zeta sorority. Likewise, Gamma Psi members should not be telling Omega Chi members all about how they love hanging out at the Kappa Tau Gamma fraternity house.

It's rude to the members of the group you are teamed with. Plain and simple.

It's one thing if the other org comes up in natural conversation: "Yeah, we had a drop in at the KT house last Wednesday. What about y'all?" "Oh, the ZBZs came over for a pledge swap that night." or, "You're an engineering major? So's my boyfriend. Do you know Rusty? He's a KT." "Oh, yeah, he's cool. Isn't his sister president of the ZBZs?"

But, to stand in front of members of other groups and talk about how you wish you were at another house? Rude.

You might be teamed with the "lowest tier" chapter on campus. Guess what, especially among fraternities that seem to ebb and flow on the popularity scale, that chapter may end up being one of the most popular in a few years and the members may have long memories.
I love you for the Greek reference. As long as no one mixes with IKI, we're cool.

adpiucf 04-25-2013 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by greekdee (Post 2214528)
I've always been warned, "it's not what you say, it's how you say it."
Me, too! It's something I said repeatedly to my collegians when I was advising. I think that message goes a long way in helping people communicate.

clemsongirl 04-25-2013 11:09 AM
I just feel bad for my friend who joined the Maryland chapter of DG this semester. Now she has to go through her collegiate experience with the campus stigma of "the sorority with the crazy b*tch who wrote the funny email", which won't help them in recruitment and otherwise. I don't wish to know who shared this email, but I do hope that they really think about how they've affected their chapter both nationally and locally.

pinapple 04-25-2013 11:15 AM
Very curious how this will affect the Delta Gamma Chapters across the nation during recruitment. I can see it drawing some girls in because of the "fame" although negative as it has been, and I can see some girls not ranking them because they see them as tainted. (I can see mothers advising their daughters to not pref that c*nt punt chapter...lol) I can't remember any story in recent times that has caught fire like this. Even the Homeless mixer and Mexican mixers didn't seem to be as viral as this. How exactly do you field those questions from PNMs if you are an active DG and it comes up in recruitment conversation :eek:

adpiucf 04-25-2013 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by clemsongirl (Post 2214531)
I just feel bad for my friend who joined the Maryland chapter of DG this semester. Now she has to go through her collegiate experience with the campus stigma of "the sorority with the crazy b*tch who wrote the funny email", which won't help them in recruitment and otherwise. I don't wish to know who shared this email, but I do hope that they really think about how they've affected their chapter both nationally and locally.
I think it will blow over. Everyone knows that girl is no longer a member and the sorority doesn't tolerate this type of behavior. It may even paint them as "famous" and make girls want to join because of all of the attention. I also don't blame the whistle blower. I get what you're saying about keeping matters internal-- but this has started an important conversation about how to lead and motivate. I'm sure the sororities will be re-educating their members on not sharing private emails, but if someone was hazing, you'd expect them to report it and for it to be in the news. I think screaming abuse at someone garners the same type of attention. I'm sure the email was forwarded not to get "help," but to call out the psycho who sent it.

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Originally Posted by pinapple (Post 2214532)
Very curious how this will affect the Delta Gamma Chapters across the nation during recruitment. I can see it drawing some girls in because of the "fame" although negative as it has been, and I can see some girls not ranking them because they see them as tainted. (I can see mothers advising their daughters to not pref that c*nt punt chapter...lol) I can't remember any story in recent times that has caught fire like this. Even the Homeless mixer and Mexican mixers didn't seem to be as viral as this. How exactly do you field those questions from PNMs if you are an active DG and it comes up in recruitment conversation :eek:
I really think this will blow over quickly and be a distant memory by the time recruitment rolls around. I posted a link to the infamous blood drive email from a few years back, and I'd be willing to bet no one remembered that or blinked an eyelash the following recruitment.


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