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AGDee 02-11-2012 02:28 PM

Rick Santorum.. on women in combat. Women don't have the same physical capabilities that men do and the emotions of men in dealing with women in combat, not focusing on mission because they have to protect the women? He also opposes gays serving in the military.

http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/pol...-in-combat.cnn

MysticCat 02-11-2012 04:52 PM

Did anybody hear PJ O'Rourke on Wait Wait Don't Tell Me last week? (I think it was last week; it may have been two weeks ago.) His quip was that the GOP varsity team all got food poisoning in the GOP cafeteria, and that's why the junior varsity team was running in the primaries and caucuses.

Psi U MC Vito 02-11-2012 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 2124761)
Rick Santorum.. on women in combat. Women don't have the same physical capabilities that men do and the emotions of men in dealing with women in combat, not focusing on mission because they have to protect the women? He also opposes gays serving in the military.

http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/pol...-in-combat.cnn

Those arguments have been raised for a long time, and there might be something to the second, but that happens already in most units, just because of the bonds that are formed. And as for the first, just eliminate the double standards that currently exist and have all soldiers meet the same physical standards male or female. It is likely that less females will be able to meet those standards, but even a lot of men can't meet military combat standards. Also I thought that Israel allowed women to serve in combat. I seem to remember seeing a interview with an Israeli tanker who was a woman.

AOII Angel 02-11-2012 08:44 PM

The whole "emotions" argument is bs. There women who are as emotionally tough as men. As a physician, I've seen women handle emotional situations in trauma that the most macho man can't. Blood and gore and death dont turn all women into crying messes...and all men can't handle it either. I won't go into any detail on the things I've seen and done in my time in surgery and radiology at LSU, but it would make your hair curl.

Psi U MC Vito 02-11-2012 08:50 PM

I only watched about half the video, but it seemed like he was talking more about the men involved. And considering men are conditioned to protect women, I can kind of see his point.

AOII Angel 02-11-2012 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito (Post 2124822)
I only watched about half the video, but it seemed like he was talking more about the men involved. And considering men are conditioned to protect women, I can kind of see his point.

I think discriminating against women bc men can't make the adjustment is bad policy. They'll do it when they are made to do it...just like they were made to accept black soldiers and gay soldiers serving side by side with them. The answer is never to cave to these insecurities. Times change and so do behaviors. They'll stop opening doors for the female soldiers as soon as the enemy starts shooting at them. The group philosophy is already to leave no soldier behind.

AGDee 02-11-2012 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito (Post 2124814)
Those arguments have been raised for a long time, and there might be something to the second, but that happens already in most units, just because of the bonds that are formed. And as for the first, just eliminate the double standards that currently exist and have all soldiers meet the same physical standards male or female. It is likely that less females will be able to meet those standards, but even a lot of men can't meet military combat standards. Also I thought that Israel allowed women to serve in combat. I seem to remember seeing a interview with an Israeli tanker who was a woman.

And they've made women furious for a long time. There has been talk of reversing it recently.

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 2124825)
I think discriminating against women bc men can't make the adjustment is bad policy. They'll do it when they are made to do it...just like they were made to accept black soldiers and gay soldiers serving side by side with them. The answer is never to cave to these insecurities. Times change and so do behaviors. They'll stop opening doors for the female soldiers as soon as the enemy starts shooting at them. The group philosophy is already to leave no soldier behind.

Thank you! He says in this video that he's against gays in the military too, so it isn't just women.

**Still mad the ERA never passed**

naraht 02-11-2012 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito (Post 2124822)
I only watched about half the video, but it seemed like he was talking more about the men involved. And considering men are conditioned to protect women, I can kind of see his point.

So if his only problem is with the men, then having combat jobs restricted to women only should solve the problems, right?

amIblue? 02-12-2012 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 2124790)
Did anybody hear PJ O'Rourke on Wait Wait Don't Tell Me last week? (I think it was last week; it may have been two weeks ago.) His quip was that the GOP varsity team all got food poisoning in the GOP cafeteria, and that's why the junior varsity team was running in the primaries and caucuses.

That is golden.

AOII Angel 02-12-2012 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by naraht (Post 2124859)
So if his only problem is with the men, then having combat jobs restricted to women only should solve the problems, right?

LOL

Tulip86 02-25-2012 09:26 PM

Santorum blalantly lies to scare people into voting for him:

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/the-rache...20567#46520567

In his argument against healthcare reforms he argues that the reforms are scary and evil and he drags the Dutch into the argument stating that the Dutch kill their elderly because euthanasia is legalised there.

He claims 10% of all Dutch people are euthanised (false: less than 0,5% of all deaths)

Half of these people are euthanised against their will (false: none are, two doctors, a psychologist and the family are involved, and the person needs to be clear-headed, and in true dispair with hopeless suffering due to sickness as their only prospect).

He goes on to state that the elderly refuse to go to the hospital in the Netherlands because they're afraid to be euthanised.

(yes, I realise MSBNC leans more to the left so the coverage might be biased, but he still said it, regardless of commentary)

This is absolutely ridiculous.
The worst part? When I was back in the US a while back, a fellow student was genuinely surprised to learn that I still have grandparents, as she was absolutely convinced the Dutch have their elderly killed when they get old and sick.
Though she may be one of few who actually believes this, just the thought of someone selling these lies as cold hard fact running for president, makes me shudder.

AGDee 02-27-2012 01:14 AM

I cannot wait for this primary on Tuesday to be done in Michigan! The robo-calls are ridiculous and so are the ads. Santorum keeps sticking his foot in his mouth over and over and over. He blasted Obama for encouraging more people to go to college, saying he is a snob for pushing college and that colleges just indoctrinate students because all the professors are liberal. This, from a guy with numerous advanced degrees!

Psi U MC Vito 02-27-2012 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 2128498)
I cannot wait for this primary on Tuesday to be done in Michigan! The robo-calls are ridiculous and so are the ads. Santorum keeps sticking his foot in his mouth over and over and over. He blasted Obama for encouraging more people to go to college, saying he is a snob for pushing college and that colleges just indoctrinate students because all the professors are liberal. This, from a guy with numerous advanced degrees!

Really? Most of the Members of Congress hold law degrees. And I would love to see a so called liberal professor at a place like BYU.

DaemonSeid 02-27-2012 12:31 PM

Meh...just buzzing thru...thought some of you would get a kick outta this

Santorum calls Obama "a snob' for wanting Americans to go to college...note who is clapping around the 46 sec mark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkjbJ...ature=youtu.be

And who did this Penn State Alum nominate for an award in 2002?

http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepol...psus-sandusky/

and the crazy train continues....y'all have a nice day.

naraht 02-27-2012 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito (Post 2128499)
Really? Most of the Members of Congress hold law degrees. And I would love to see a so called liberal professor at a place like BYU.

Nope, majority of the Senate only 57/100. The house has 168/435.

And the head of the Utah County Democratic Party (Utah County contains Provo) is a professor in the Political Science Department at BYU. (at least as of 2009)


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