What nasty cheap brand are you smoking? Camel/Marlborough/Parliaments are about $6.50 a pack in Michigan.

I've never heard the term "total 360" but I have heard people say "total 180". Maybe the people saying 360 are just geometrically challenged?

Dude, the last pack of Marlboro regs I bought was about $4!

And yes, total 360 is b/c people don't understand circles. lol

CANNOT STAND when I get someone's voicemail and it says "I'll call you back at my earliest convenience." Say what? YOUR earliest convenience? Heffa please.

It only works the other way around for me as it's an expression of deference and respect for the person's time.

RIGHT: "Please get back to me at your earliest convenience." (Because I know your time is precious and I appreciate you.)

RIGHT: "I'll get back to you as soon as possible." (I'm busy at the moment, but will call you back the next time I have a free moment.)

WRONG: "I'll get back to you at my earliest convenience." (You must be my loyal subject because I KNOW you'll be waiting anxiously for me to grace you with the glory of my voice. Yes, I know I'm bougie. *hair flip* *flutter*)

lmao!

I hate it too. Whenever I watch dog competitions and they say that, i'm just like really? You can't come up with a better name for a female dog?

But the insult came from the name. I mean women are called bitches as a degrading insult because female dogs are called bitches. Men are called bitches because the speaker considers being female to be an insult. (Or just participates in the sexist language, YMMV)

If you create another name for a female dog, what're the odds that it wouldn't become an insult too?

Ahh true. Yeah I knew the insult came from the name, but i didn't think that if they changed the name, that the insult would change too.

They could just say "the girl" or something instead of "the bitch." lol

Yeah I mean think about the things women are called, cow, sow or pig, bitch, brood-mare... The whole point is the animal comparison.

In some ways it's a good thing that they don't change the name, it's just jarring to hear. I don't know, I say bitch myself so I'm not really claiming moral superiority on the issue. *habits I know I should work on, but haven't*

http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/24.gifhttp://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/24.gif See, agzg you are flat out wrong for that. Wrong enough for this to go in my siggy.:D

LOL I thought I told you to go to the corner------------------------->

FWIW, bitch (as used for a woman) originally meant a very sexual woman -- the comparison was to a female dog in heat. The usage dates back 5 or more centuries, and the connotation has, of course, changed.

I completely understand the offense taken at the word when used regarding a woman. What I have trouble with is avoiding the word with regard to dogs, which seems like an overreaction. In a way, it reminds me a little of the kids who laugh when someone says "Uranus."

Ah, makes sense and I might even have known that. But I think for most people it's not offense but just a bit jarring, since you don't otherwise hear that word on TV, and you just don't think about it in that context until it is said.

Well yes, because gender is a human construct.

Regardless of the gender/sex debate (cause I've had enough of it in college), I still think there could be a different way to address a female dog. I don't find it offensive, I just don't like the word.

That's exactly what my voicemail says because it's true. Am I a heffa? No. Bougie? Maybe a little. *hair flip* :)

FWIW, many women I know/knew would refer to a woman they did not like as "That ol' female dog" to avoid usage of the offensive word while still making sure the displeasure was expressed in a funny sort of way. ;)

I usually just call everyone an asshole. Covers all bases.

PS-I'm totally cool with your voicemail saying that. Because my beef is with the voicemails that do this: "Hey, what's up?" Pause (which is long enough for me to respond with "Nothing, really, you?) "Nothin...but hey this is actually my voicemail, so leave a message!"

Not. Cool.

Same here. Doesn't sound that different from "I'll call you back as soon as I can" -- just a little more formal.

BTW, like your location.