Yeah, like having people assume that ALL Black people voted for Obama. I know what you mean. and that is one reason why I was so surprised to see the division in the group.

Fair enough. Really wasn't trying to put you in an uncomfortable situation at all. :)

No offense, but I don't need to look at any polls to realize that some people eat up everything that politicians say, and vote based on meaningless things.

The comment about the beer was a joke.

And the ten commandments say Thou shall not commit adultery not thou shalt not marry someone of the same sex.:rolleyes: My whole point is, there is no state sponsored religion, and the "Christian values" that this country was founded on are up to debate. Christianity in and of itself has so many denomintions- which one gets to decide what moral compass we follow. Some think gay marriage is okay. I vote we follow that denomination!

Any "Christian Principles" that are in are constitution are simply a result of the Christian upbringing of our founders. They did not set out to create a Christian state.

I heart you for this, my Panhellenic sister, even though we have different views on things.

The 10 Commandments (and a lot of other principles you speak of) aren't just a Christian thing, some of The Chosen People are likely to disagree with you, as will some Muslims. Also, context is highly important here. People of the 1770s may have very different religious beliefs than 2010s, and be of the same faiths. Trying to live within the context now, is often difficult. Neither of us would have been able to vote, and perhaps I would have learned to read, play the piano and speak French, but the white, land owning, educated, Christian men of 1770 are not the be all end all, and provided a great foundation.

Unitarians and Episcopalians are some places you may want to check out. Some, but not all individual ELCA Lutheran churches as well.

Fixed it for you:) (The entire denomination is for this, organizationally speaking.)

Unitarians have fairly extreme views because they don't believe in the Trinity. The Episcopal church it really depends on the independent church, though from what i understand most churches are more on the liberal side.

Do Unitarians really NOT believe in anything? I thought you could believe in anything or not believe in anything to be a member.

Not only don't the ten commandments say anything about marrying someone of the same sex, the various places that homosexuality are mentioned aren't in the same chapter of the bible as the 10 commandments (in either of the places where the 10 commandments are mentioned.) The closest that you get is that both one set of statements of the 10 commandments is in Leviticus and so is the prohibition against homosexual sex. (Note that Lesbian sex isn't mentioned at all).

Honestly I don't know, but that is what I was aware of. Unitarian Christianity at least is belief in Jesus, but not the Trinity. Or that is what I was told.

So you would prefer me to use the full name? The people who I know who practice say Unitarian, and it is clear who we mean.

Unitarians aren't the only ones. In fact, many well-known preachers...like T.D. Jakes, aren't Unitarians yet they don't believe in the Trinity either.

Nope. http://www.uua.org/visitors/index.shtml

Notice I said Unitarian Christianity, not Unitarian Universalism.