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Sorry ladies - my husband inadvertently deleted my screen shots. :(
(He assumed that since my project was done that I didn't need the data anymore - of course, I hadn't spelled out to him that I was saving descriptions of sorority houses from recruitment. He might have looked at me like I was nuts then. :o) OTW should still have the e-mails, and I don't see why it would be objectionable for her to re-post the info. littlemissvixen only wanted to keep the descriptions down until after recruitment - I don't believe she cares one way or the other if the stuff gets reposted. |
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opps...I have to remind myself to be nice...yes :p |
by the way, deltabetababy, how old ARE you?? you joined GC in 2001 when i graduated 8th grade. seriously you're still at u of i participating in recruitment....? and if not, seriously you're still so concerned with recruitment?? lame.
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no, good luck to you and anyone else trying to nail me down! i wish you all the best. let me know when you've figured it out ;-).
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And, of course, your sorority membership is not just limited to your undergraduate career - you'll spend a far greater portion of your life as an alumnae member than you will as an undergraduate. (Especially in your case, having joined as a junior.) |
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I'd hate to find out what LMV thinks of the 20, 30, 40 year members who still religiously help out at rush every year. Yall must hella jurassic. |
not so much the helping as the GC creeping and some people's criticism and genuine mean spiritedness towards girls 1/2 their age? i'm just saying that by the time you're not in college, you should probably have other concerns/a life in general. if i'm in law school and still posting on here, someone please call me out on it...
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If you really did join a sorority (and bless their little hearts they probably have NO idea what they've gotten themselves into if you're this rude in person) then you will learn (as stated) that membership in a sorority CAN AND DOES last a lifetime. NO chapter thrives without the help of dedicated alumnae who serve as advisors and alumnae chapters who dedicate time and energy into seeing that collegian women get the same opportunities we did. I AM a lawyer. I DID post on here while in law school. Why? Because I'm connected to the greek community as whole as an alum. I'm a member of my local Delta Gamma alumnae chapter. I pay alumnae dues (some of which go to our Executive Offices so that they can function and provide for support for our collegiate chapters--those people out of college who get PAID to work for the fraternity so that there's someone out there looking out for the chapters). I even helped out my chapter with recruitment (8 years after going through recruitment myself) because they needed alums to help out and do things that collegians aren't allowed to do (like leave the room to get supplies when they don't make it into the space like they're supposed to). A lot of us here on GC are out of school. We like to know what's going on in the 'greek world' because we know that our membership goes on past college. It's not 'not having a life' it's about sharing experiences with each other and helping other women and men out. Support is key in life no matter what you do. If you really think we have no lives, just stop coming here. No one's making you stay (and don't let the door hit your butt on the way out--it'll hurt something awful!) |
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Now, let's talk about the above post of yours. You do have a house, don't you? Do you honestly think that YOUR dues will cover all of its upkeep? Of course not - you're a junior, and more sensible than that. Beautiful is rarely inexpensive. Let me explain: It's those lame, ancient alumnae who genuinely believe in the standards, creed, symphony, whatever behind your sorority who are donating money of their own free will to keep all of their sorority houses across the country (or two) looking fine and being insured, etc. It's those lame, ancient alumnae who have been working sight unseen in the kitchens, offices, and other rooms, making sure that the sisters have time to entertain the PNMs without too much worry. It's those lame, ancient alumnae who volunteer at each school, your GLO philanthropies, and write recs for the PNMs, so they can enjoy the benefits of being in a sorority. It's those same lame, ancient alumnae who, after donating much of their time and money, care enough about that chapter (and others) to keep an eye on Recruitment and hope that the chapter did well. Whether you decide to do so or not, you owe each of those lame, ancient alumnae a huge apology. Without them, there would be no fairly run greek system, there would be no gorgeous houses, there would be no lovely parties, and, for those who are currently New Members who do not fully appreciate the work of those alumnae, there may be no initiation. You've gotten through life thus far expressing yourself as you'd like. It's time to understand that the feelings of others count, too. It's a sign of being a truly appreciated sorority woman. Good luck in your New Member period. |
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There are several alums to whom I am very much grateful for all they've done. But you'd be naive to believe that all alums are involved strictly because of the goodness of their hearts. I have friends in every sorority on my campus, and all of them have horror stories during Rush regarding alums trying to bully them into taking the girls they want/don't want. One of my roommates had an alum corner her and threaten to pull her pin if she didn't vote against an IN HOUSE LEGACY coming through. I have personally been told that I didn't deserve to be in my house because I vouched personally for a girl who an alum had written a negative rec for (because she beat said alum's daughter out for cheerleading) There are amazing alum who take to heart the sorority's creed and care for the good of the house. But there are just as many who are intent on living out their glory days by harrassing members during Rush. I have no doubt that some of this type exist on this message board. Please consider this before you make blanket statements. |
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hehehe j/k. |
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I would like to think the percentage of times I've openly criticized someone speaks for itself. I do so when there's a slight chance of redemption. ETA: Which does not mean I'm naive enough to expect one - this time. |
Honeychile, you have so much graciousness even when pointing out the unfortunate attitude of the OP that it's truly wonderful. You are amazing.
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um, yeah, no one's getting an apology. i don't really care how many t-shirts you have, if you spend your days as an adult criticizing people on GC, i think that's pretty sad. there's a difference in being interested in your chapter/sorority and being a lifetime member, and obsessing over random threads in GC. lots of you seem to be reading alot more into what i say than is actually there and then freaking out about it. also, why should i respect alumnae of various chapters not even my own?? um, ok, they joined a sorority and possibly finished 4 years of school and now spend time writing thousands of posts on GC. how does that equal respect? lol and as those of you complaining about my attitude... i try to post a recruitment story, admittedly a bit shallow but not mean-spirited in any way, and am immediately attacked and threatened, then expected to just take it as good advice? not happening.
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i know im going against everyone on here and am going to get crap for it, but i honestly think we should leave her alone now and stop adding fuel to the fire. she made judgement mistakes and owned up to most of them.
littlemissvixen--i hope you are happy wherever you decided to pledge. i hope that you have the best experience possible!! feel free to pm me if you want to! |
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I have a correction in your statement on #2, you are a pledge, not an active member. |
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OK, I think things have gone on long enough. Refer to the forum TOS - if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it. That goes for everyone regardless of age.
The insults regarding age, interest in Greek life, etc. are stopping NOW. If LMV is not going to reveal what, if any, bid she received, the purpose of this thread has ended. Let's move on... |
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However, littlemissvixen's recent posts are truly mean spirited and immature. As indicated by the quote above, even littlemissvixen does not yet view herself as an adult. However, littlemissvixen, as a junior in college, you are an adult. Grow up and be a little more thoughtful with your comments. Even if someone posting on here has been out of school for a while, the fact that people remain interested in their sorority (which is a lifelong commitment) is a postive thing- not a negative. Good luck to you with your new chapter. Maybe just think a little before you type? |
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I'm surprised no one commented on this. Believe it or not, all 26 NPCs work together to make guidelines and rules that are fair. If something happens to your house, be it a fire, the lost of a sister, or someting else, not only are your sisters there for you, but the Greek community as a whole. Just because people where different letters, we all stand for the same thing. "No matter the letter, we are all Greek together" |
Wow, just wow.
Never thought I'd do a Balki Dance Of Joy that my sorority's chapter at UIUC is dormant. |
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I have gained additional respect today for Honeychile's Kappa mama. You can always tell when someone was brought up right. ;)
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Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. |
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that was the most dramatic thread i've ever read in my life. i wish that one with the identical twin in a southern school with the pink frills and stuff kept posting! that was the best thread ever with those cliffhangers. she kept saying "but there was that one thing..."
regarding this thread- chill out! everyone! refer to the thread where people state the stupid/shallow/funny reasons they dropped or kept houses when they rushed. some of them sound pretty shallow and now they're all GCers. I remember being incredibly shallow during recruitment! |
I've read this whole thread and I have to agree, I think we should lay off LMV. Yes, she said some incredibly shallow things during recruitment, but I can't say that had I gone through formal I might not have been shallow as well. The school I rushed at (and the school I transferred too) had about 13-14 houses when I joined, I wouldn't have been able to remember much, but those "shallow" things (i.e., what the girls looked like). It doesn't make me a bad person, it makes me human. While, yes, I don't think she handeled her thread appropriately being bluntly honest, she has every right to be bluntly honest. We just aren't used to that on GC. We are used to PNM's being "sweet and kind and not rude". The reality check of this, not every PNM is like we are used too.
Critizing her and demanding apologies from her just, as someone pointed out, "adds fuel to the fire". People from GC keep ragging on her, she comes and behaves even more inappropriately, but at this point, we (on GC) aren't behaving to appropriately either. And I'm not calling anyone out by name, I'm saying GC as a whole, because as a whole there are way too many people to name that have behaved badly in recruitment threads. For me, even though she is a junior transfer, she is still 19-21 (I say that because we don't know how old she was when she started college or when her birthday is). I know I was still pretty immature and stupid at those ages. And I'm everyone took a step back, they would "see" that they too were probably pretty immature and stupid at those ages as well. I'm sure someone will flame me for this, but whatever. |
Maybe a solution, and in light of some other rush thread fiascos, GC should recommend only retro rush threads or even just telling the GC community which GLO was pledged without going through the day-by-day experience.
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Aaack! This R thread addict would have a hard time with this solution! :eek: I can see why you'd suggest it, but I'd seriously have to find a new fix. Then again, I'm Sydney, and I'm a GC R-thread-aholic. :o |
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I agree with what Barbara said a page ago. This is degenerating into vitriolic attacks on both sides. All of us are old enough to know better. |
LMV - I'm happy for you that you have found a home on campus and that hopefully it's where you wanted to be. I also do hope that you really take it all in during your fraternity education. Lifetime commitment is one of the best things about joining a sorority. Unfortunately too many members think it is only there for them during their 4 years on campus.
I'm not going to speak for everyone, but I'm still involved in my sorority and I was initiated in 1996. I happen to work with other chapters on other campuses than mine at U of I but it doesn't mean that I don't care about that one as well. I put a lot into my sorority experience and I got a lot out of it, it helped form my self-development, gave my confidence to do things I never thought I'd have the courage to do, and allowed me to feel at home with a campus of 36,000 people. Not to mention the connections to my chapter's sisters but the amazing amount of women I've met throughout North America, young and older, who I'm proud to call my sisters. I believe in my ritual and I've lived by the values in my ritual my entire life (most if it without knowing that those were my sorority's values). I hope that the experience I had, albeit not perfect and rocky, is still available for collegiate women to continue to have for years to come. I know that without alumnae volunteers sororities will not exist so I will devote my time for the rest of my life. I hope I do see you active on GC in the years to come and caring about the life of your sorority and all greek life Make the most of your experience, it will reward you thousands-fold. The recruitment adviser at my chapter on campus is one of my best friends but I'm not going to ask about junior transfers. |
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