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lovelyivy84 11-21-2006 12:15 PM

Most of the posts by yt folks I've seen on the issue are all about reverse racism, and how come it's not ok for him to say "the n-word" but it was ok for the black folks in the audience to call him cracker. I think he will be just fine.

PrettyPhenomnal 11-21-2006 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by southernelle25 (Post 1360741)
His Jewish fans need to think carefully before accepting him back. In my experience, the people who hold these feelings toward blacks tend to hold worse feelings toward Jews; where there is disregard for the pain and suffering of black folk, there is pure hatred for the very existence of Jews.

I thought that Michael Richards WAS Jewish...:eek:

DELTABRAT 11-21-2006 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by lovelyivy84 (Post 1360763)
Most of the posts by yt folks I've seen on the issue are all about reverse racism, and how come it's not ok for him to say "the n-word" but it was ok for the black folks in the audience to call him cracker. I think he will be just fine.

Then he goes on to pretend like he now is concerned about race relations after Hurricane Katrina...c'mon...don't make it seem like you were making some sort of political statement...

As I stated, I am surprised he is still walking...

southernelle25 11-21-2006 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by lovelyivy84 (Post 1360763)
Most of the posts by yt folks I've seen on the issue are all about reverse racism, and how come it's not ok for him to say "the n-word" but it was ok for the black folks in the audience to call him cracker. I think he will be just fine.

If all he said was the n-word, I might be tempted to give them a point. However, this fool had the nerve to say, and I quote:

"Fifty years ago we'd have you upside down with af***in' fork up your a**!"

This is a very clear reference to lynching he would have participated in. :mad:

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Originally Posted by PrettyPhenomnal (Post 1360817)
I thought that Michael Richards WAS Jewish...:eek:

I don't believe he is.

thesweetestone 11-21-2006 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PrettyPhenomnal (Post 1360817)
I thought that Michael Richards WAS Jewish...:eek:

Jerry Seinfied is Jewish. When Michael Richards was on the David Letterman show last night, he seemed very sorry about his comments.

lovelyivy84 11-21-2006 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by thesweetestone (Post 1360989)
Jerry Seinfied is Jewish. When Michael Richards was on the David Letterman show last night, he seemed very sorry about his comments.

Yeah, I'm sure his acting coach worked with him real hard on that one.

That outburst was just too raw and out of context (telling hecklers how you would lynch them?) to be anything but what he really felt IMO.

Phasad1913 11-21-2006 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by lovelyivy84 (Post 1360735)
SInce folks were actively laughing in the audience while he was saying it...

THAT's what really tripped me out.

DSTCHAOS 11-21-2006 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by southernelle25 (Post 1360904)
If all he said was the n-word, I might be tempted to give them a point.


Interesting.

southernelle25 11-21-2006 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1361070)
Interesting.

Yeah, I could understand those who say that if you are against the use of the "n-word", then you should be against the use of any and all other racial slurs.

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Originally Posted by lovelyivy84 (Post 1361041)
Yeah, I'm sure his acting coach worked with him real hard on that one.

That outburst was just too raw and out of context (telling hecklers how you would lynch them?) to be anything but what he really felt IMO.

I agree with commentators who said it seemed as if he was going in and out of the Kramer character during his "apology". :confused:

DSTCHAOS 11-21-2006 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by southernelle25 (Post 1361085)
Yeah, I could understand those who say that if you are against the use of the "n-word", then you should be against the use of any and all other racial slurs.

What does that have to do with the excerpt of your post that I quoted?

lovelyivy84 11-21-2006 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1361132)
What does that have to do with the excerpt of your post that I quoted?

That is what she was referring to in the post you responded to with "Interesting"- she was saying she could understand the view of people who had an attitude like those I referenced- that the only thing they noted was it was just as wrong for the folks in the audience to be calling him cracker as it was for him to call them "the n-word" - IF that was all he had done.

I don't agree with the point, lol, but that was what she meant. Feel free to correct me if I misunderstood southern

DSTCHAOS 11-21-2006 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lovelyivy84 (Post 1361136)
That is what she was referring to in the post you responded to with "Interesting"- she was saying she could understand the view of people who had an attitude like those I referenced- that the only thing they noted was it was just as wrong for the folks in the audience to be calling him cracker as it was for him to call them "the n-word" - IF that was all he had done.

I don't agree with the point, lol, but that was what she meant. Feel free to correct me if I misunderstood southern

Cool. I can see how that's what she meant. My fault, southernelle25.

When I watched the footage on the news yesterday, it seemed as though the black people said "cracka" after he went on his tangent. That doesn't make it okay but it makes that "why's it okay for them and not us" retort even dumber. If the black people said "cracka" first, that still doesn't excuse him to yell "NIGGER" over and over again, but it makes the black audience members even dumber than I already think they are.

jojapeach 11-21-2006 07:28 PM

LOL @ apo-la-lying

I didn't buy his apology. His rant was how he genuinely felt about black people. Hearing him call us Afro-Americans irked me because we've progressed to being "black" and "African-American" for quite some time. It's not as if he called us "colored", but obviously, black people don't matter enough in his world to keep up with the times and what we're called these days.

I would've felt better about his apology if he hadn't insisted, "I'm not a racist!" while calling us by an outdated name. I would've felt great if he had been real and admitted that he really has some racist feelings like many people have. He just made a huge mistake to angrily express those feelings.

jojapeach 11-21-2006 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1361144)
When I watched the footage on the news yesterday, it seemed as though the black people said "cracka" after he went on his tangent. That doesn't make it okay but it makes that "why's it okay for them and not us" retort even dumber. If the black people said "cracka" first, that still doesn't excuse him to yell "NIGGER" over and over again, but it makes the black audience members even dumber than I already think they are.

They did call him "cracka", and I agree with you 100%. Spewing the ignorance back at him did not help the situation or media fury at all. Watching that exchange (and the words across the screen) made me cringe all the way around.

DSTCHAOS 11-21-2006 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jojapeach (Post 1361145)
LOL @ apo-la-lying

I didn't buy his apology. His rant was how he genuinely felt about black people. Hearing him call us Afro-Americans irked me because we've progressed to being "black" and "African-American" for quite some time. It's not as if he called us "colored", but obviously, black people don't matter enough in his world to keep up with the times and what we're called these days.

I would've felt better about his apology if he hadn't insisted, "I'm not a racist!" while calling us by an outdated name. I would've felt great if he had been real and admitted that he really has some racist feelings like many people have. He just made a huge mistake to angrily express those feelings.

Geesh. I don't blame some people for not keeping up with that nonsense. What other groups have gone through these name transformations? Not many.

Instead of focusing on what TO call us, folks should just worry about what NOT TO call us as a group: NIGGER, NIGGA, COLORED, PORCH MONKEYS, etc.

And when white people ask "what do you want to be called" I tell them to call me by my name. :)

DSTCHAOS 11-21-2006 07:40 PM

Okay, I've received my first email forward about this mess.

I hate email forwards and I hope black people don't get on the email forward tip about his tangent. I mean, some of us actually watch the news and don't rely on the Blackweb for the latest.

So this dude sends the forward of the video clip and says something to the effect of he would've done so-and-so if he had been there. Mannnnnn, you wouldn't have done anything!!! :rolleyes: And anything that you would've done would've made the situation worse and made you look stupid.

jojapeach 11-21-2006 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1361149)
Geesh. I don't blame some people for not keeping up with that nonsense. What other groups have gone through these name transformations? Not many.

Instead of focusing on what TO call us, folks should just worry about what NOT TO call us as a group: NIGGER, NIGGA, COLORED, PORCH MONKEYS, etc.

And when white people ask "what do you want to be called" I tell them to call me by my name. :)

The nonsense is supposed to be "politically correct", which makes these terms comfortable for the masses. IMO, Michael Richards does not care to appeal or relate to the American masses. He shouldn't make fake apologies about the words he let out of his mouth because he doesn't care about the people affected by them.

And when did Caucasian come into use? I don't recall hearing that from the white kids or my white teachers in elementary or middle school. The Caucaus Mountains have been around for centuries, but the term "Caucasian" has not. Neither has Anglo-American, Asian-American, Cuban-American, Mexican American, etc.

DSTCHAOS 11-21-2006 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jojapeach (Post 1361163)
And when did Caucasian come into use? I don't recall hearing that from the white kids or my white teachers in elementary or middle school. The Caucaus Mountains have been around for centuries, but the term "Caucasian" has not. Neither has Anglo-American, Asian-American, Cuban-American, Mexican American, etc.


I don't know when Caucasian came into use. Probably over the past 30 years when people started having race debates and discovering how "race" is socially constructed versus biological. I used to hear about Caucazoid, Negroid, and Mongoloid when I was younger.

I think of these categorical names as important for record keeping purposes only. I certainly don't walk around hyphenating groups. My biggest thing is that I try to avoid using racial epithets or objectifying a group of people in my language and actions.

Munchkin03 11-22-2006 12:05 AM

[QUOTE=ChanelLover;1360299]First Kanye calls bi-racial women "mutts" in Essence. Then he says he loves "mutts" because what else would they use for videos.

Kanye needs to have his jaw wired shut...again.

As far as the Michael Richards thing, I don't care. It's not as if he's relevant anymore anyway. I loved him as Kramer...but that's not Kramer.

MsSweetness 11-22-2006 09:48 AM

Two of the black guys who were at the Laugh Factory just came on the Today show. They said it was a bunch of them, they went out to celebrate a friend's birthday. Their group was mixed with blacks, asians, whites and latinos. They said they got there late and must have been making too much noise (not purposely), then they sat down and ordered drinks from the waitresses.

That's when Michael Richards said that the loud blacks and mexicans were there:eek: Then one of the guys yelled out that he wasn't funny. That's what started it all. Richards made it seem like they were heckling him from get go and that's why he got so mad:rolleyes: :mad:

DSTCHAOS 11-22-2006 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MsSweetness (Post 1361345)
Their group was mixed with blacks, asians, whites and latinos.

And whose birthday was it, The United Nations? :D Well obviously racism is dead and Richards is just late getting the memo.

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Originally Posted by MsSweetness (Post 1361345)
That's when Michael Richards said that the loud blacks and mexicans were there:eek:


LOL.

That in and of itself wouldn't have offended me because many FUNNY comics make racial humor all the time without going too far. But since Richards isn't really FUNNY he was unable to make us poke fun at ourselves, as comics are usually capable of doing.

Instead of the tirade, Richards should've said something to the effect of "I'm not funny?! Yeah, okay then how about you enjoy your cheap seats and shut the hell up so the rest of the audience can hear me."

jojapeach 11-22-2006 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1361270)
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Originally Posted by ChanelLover (Post 1360299)
First Kanye calls bi-racial women "mutts" in Essence. Then he says he loves "mutts" because what else would they use for videos.

Kanye needs to have his jaw wired shut...again.

As far as the Michael Richards thing, I don't care. It's not as if he's relevant anymore anyway. I loved him as Kramer...but that's not Kramer.

True, but it was a shock to my system, and I live in The South. I'm one of 6 black people in my office, and there are about 20 of us. We all get along pretty well in our multicultural space. To hear someone broadcast that just smacks you back into general reality that we have a long way to go.

I kept it in, but Kanye disturbs me more. I know it's just music videos, but these music videos that objectify and exploit women are seen by young impressionable people everyday. One thing I always infer from the videos is that the average black woman isn't pretty enough anymore because I rarely see us. I have my own self-awareness, but how many 18 year olds or even 8 year olds are that aware? On top of that, he labeled biracial women as a name reserved for animals...in a publication for Black women. :eek: :mad:

This is one time Kanye should've kept his mouth shut. Then again, it's another case of putting your true self out there for the world to see. I'm not biracial, but I'm completely offended by Kanye.

But for all the outrage, will we do anything about it?

Sophist08edLady 11-22-2006 01:52 PM

Patty Jackson's 411 for the week of November 20th, 2006

EVERYBODY HATES DIVORCE! Comedian Chris Rock has had a change of heart, and now the Rocks are gonna work it out. A few weeks ago, Chris announced he was divorcing his wife of 10 years Malaak Compton. They have two young daughters, ages 2 and 4. When the news came out, it shocked many of his fans and a lot of people thought he was losing it. Chris’s private life has always been under the radar. But, when the news came out about trouble in his marriage, the stories of him and other women started surfacing. Did you know he used to date Madonna before he got married or his affair with Video Vixen Karrine Steffans? She’s also known as Superhead, and reports have it she’s expecting a baby with Bobby Brown. She is writing a new book about her exploits, and Rock is featured prominently. Years ago, a Hungarian model tried to blame Rock for fathering her child, but the DNA tests cleared him. Who knew Rock was a player. Apparently, someone advised him it was not in his best interest to make an enemy out of his wife. After 10 years of marriage and two kids, he would have to pay through the nose to get out of the marriage. In the words of the late Singer Johnnie Taylor: It’s Cheaper to Keep Her.

Eddie Murphy speaks! Murphy is doing promotional interviews for the movie Dreamgirls. He plays the role of R&B Singer “James ‘Thunder’ Early.” I saw the movie at the preview screening last week. Eddie Murphy is the truth in this movie. He does his own singing, and for the first time, we see him display his dramatic acting skills. On a recent episode of The Oprah Winfrey Show, Murphy revealed that he was able to get into his troubled character because at the time of filming he was going through a very painful and public divorce with his wife Nicole. Eddie is very tight lipped about his life, and he rarely gives interviews, but on December 18th, he will be appearing on the Bravo Network on the popular show Inside The Actor’s Studio. The one on one interview show with James Lipton gives viewers an up close and personal look at their favorite actors. Despite an amazing career (Coming to America, Nutty Professor, and voice over work for Shrek), Murphy is sometimes more known for known for scandal, for example the transsexual pick up scandal of the late 90’s and his divorce from his wife of 12 years. He is also the father of six children. Murphy is amazing in Dreamgirls, and he could get an Oscar nomination for his role. As for his love life, he was dating former Spice Girl Mel B, a.k.a. Melanie Brown, but she blew it big time. Murphy’s mom Lillian often arrives in town to help her son with his kids, and Mel B started complaining. Lesson number one, if you want to become the wife, you can’t diss your man’s mother. In an act of desperation, Mel then proclaimed she was pregnant hoping he wouldn’t dump her. When Murphy realized she was lying and nothing more than a manipulative drama queen, he dropped her like a hot potato. He is currently dating the ex-wife of Babyface, Producer Tracey Edmonds.

The BET Network has put together a TV special celebrating the life of Gerald Levert. On Sunday at 12 noon, they will air their half hour special, and it features Gerald’s daughter and his many friends and former singing partners. Levert passed away last week at the age of 40. When the BET Network would air their specials, you could always count on Gerald to bring the house pain. Remember his tribute to Patti LaBelle when he got down and rolled in the floor to pay homage to her? Mark your calendars and set your recording devices. This special is a keepsake. At the time of his death Gerald, was working on two projects. A new album that is coming out next year and a book with his father Eddie Levert called I Got Your Back, about father and son relationships.


Janet Jackson is shooting down reports that she is pregnant and canceling her world tour. She says the tour will go on next year despite low record sales. Friends of Janet are concerned about her and the state of her relationship with Jermaine Dupri. They blame him for the album’s failure. She continues to talk about her sex life with Dupri. A lot of people feel she is talking way too much about her private life, and it is hurting her popularity.

New albums in stores this week include Patti LaBelle’s first gospel album, The Gospel According to Patti LaBelle.

Forever, For Always, For Luther: Volume 2 featuring Will Downing, Patti Austin, Najee and Norman Brown.

Rapper Jay-Z is out of retirement with Kingdom Come.

Toni Braxton’s Las Vegas revue has been extended through August 2007.

When the movie musical Dreamgirls is released, you are going to witness the amazing singing talents of Jennifer Hudson. Hudson plays the role of “Effie White” made famous by Jennifer Holliday. She nails the Holliday classic And I Am Telling You. Hudson first found fame on American Idol, but she lost out to Fantasia. Simon Cowell had the nerve to tell her she didn’t have what it takes. Wait until you see Dreamgirls. Hudson is a star, and she just signed a deal with Whitney Houston’s Mentor Clive Davis. A new album is expected next year.

Grammy Award Winning Artist Kanye West continues to suffer from Foot in The Mouth disease. In an upcoming interview with Essence magazine, West states if it wasn’t for race mixing and biracial women, there would be no video girls. He then goes on to refer to biracial women as Mutts, proclaiming that he and his friends like Mutts.

There is life after The View for Star Jones, and she has found it on the TV One Network. Jones will be hosting and producing a show that will deal with issues in the African American Community. The first special is set to air in December. After striking out on deals with the major networks, Jones is turning to Cable TV to start a new career path.

Playwright/Producer David E. Talbert has tapped Actor Morris Chestnut to produce and star in his latest production Love In The Nick of Tyme. The play features the music of Singer Vivian Green, and it is coming to Philly next year.

Is Actor Darius McCrary, who is best known for his role as “Eddie Winslow” on the TV show Family Matters, infected with HIV? Spokespeople for the actor have not responded to published reports about the his condition. Fans of McCrary want him to make some sort of announcement. If he is infected, is he getting the help he needs?

In a day and age where most couples are breaking up, it’s good to know there is a couple that is still going strong. Actors Courtney Vance and Angela Bassett are the proud parents of twins (via a surrogate), and they are going to tell all about their amazing love story. The couple has a new book coming out in January called Friends: A Love Story.


Is Former Basketball Player Rick Fox dating Actress Sharon Stone. Fox, the ex-husband of Vanessa Williams, says he and Sharon share a best friend and the same agent. He states he enjoys her company, but he is still looking for someone to settle down with and have a relationship.

As Whitney Houston continues her recovery and getting her life in order, she is also clearing out old debt. In 1993, she purchased a $6 million estate in Morrison, New Jersey. She hasn’t lived in this home for years, and she currently owes $1 million in overdue mortgage payments. She will either have to pay off the mortgage, or sell the house to avoid foreclosure.

Mike Tyson, a male prostitute? The ex-boxing champ is considering taking a job as a male escort for women to make money. Tyson has fallen on hard times, and he is looking to make money any way he can. He is also trying to strike a deal for his own reality show.

How hot is Dancing with the Stars Champ Emmitt Smith? TV Execs were so impressed with his charisma and personality, they are trying to convince him to do a talk show. I love Smith’s wife Patricia. She used to be married to Martin Lawrence. She is a former beauty queen who was on hand every week to cheer on and support her husband. With her looks and personality, I could see her on television.

The Queen of Soul Aretha Franklin and Mary J. Blige team up for the song Never Gonna Break My Faith. The song, written by Rocker Bryan Adams, is featured on the soundtrack to the movie Bobby. The movie, directed by Emilio Estevez, is about the assassination of Bobby Kennedy. The movie features Demi Moore, Laurence Fishburne, Nick Cannon and Joy Bryant.

Actor Michael Richards, who is best known for his role “Kosmo Kramer” on Seinfeld, made headlines earlier this week after going on a racial rant at a Los Angeles comedy club. Richards says his act was interrupted by a group of hecklers. Upon realizing they were Black, he then proceeded to go on a three minute racial tirade using the n-word over 20 times and making slavery references. Richards clearly has a problem, and he talked about it on appearance on The David Letterman Show. He apologized, and he says he can’t explain why this rage fires out of him. He says he feels busted over this. Richards has a problem, and he needs help. There is no excuse. If you get a chance to see the tape, you can feel his hate. Yes, we have come a long way, but racism and sexism still exists in this country. It remains a problem.

Singer Ruth Brown is being remembered for her famous singing style. The 78-year old Grammy and Tony winner died from complications of a heart attack and stroke late last week. She is best known for the hits Teardrops In My Eyes and Mama, He Treats Your Daughter Mean. She was a major influence for Aretha Franklin and Etta James. Brown not only paved the way for them, but it was her efforts that started the Rhythm and Blues Foundation. The foundation provides medical and financial assistance to aging R&B stars. Brown first found success in the 50’s. Then, after fading record sales, she took time to raise a family and work as a maid, schoolteacher and bus driver. In the 70’s, she enjoyed a career resurgence, and went on to win a Tony Award for the musical Black and Blue.

I had a chance to sit and interview Musiq Soulchild last week. He’s best known for the hits Who Knows, Just Friends and Half Crazy. He has a new recording home with Atlantic Records, and he will be releasing a new project next called Luv And Musiq, featuring the single ‘Buddy’.

Eva The Diva is making a change. Eva Pigford, the former winner of America’s Next Top Model, is dropping Tyra Banks as her manager. She is also getting rid of her last name. Eva will now be known as Eva Marcille. Marcille is her middle name. Eva says with the changes, she is looking for a new start. Out of all the winners of the Top Model reality show, she is the most famous.

WDAS Radio is gearing up for the release of another Classic Soul album. Volume 11 is due out in stores next week, and it features such hard to find classics as I’d Rather Be By Myself by Ebo. The live versions of the classic songs Devotion, by Earth Wind & Fire, and I Can Tell By The Look In Your Eyes, by Frankie Beverly & Maze. Jesus Is Love by The Commodores, Moments In Love by The Art of Noise and You’re All That Matters To Me, by Deniece Williams, just to name a few. Butterball, the legendary programmer of WDAS, says he still enjoys putting together these albums, and people really appreciate having hard to find songs. He feels this is the best album yet.

At the movies, it’s Denzel Washington in Dйjа Vu. The mysterious action drama is set in New Orleans.

Upcoming movies: The Pursuit of Happyness with Will Smith and his son, Jaden Smith, opens December 15th.

Dreamgirls, the movie musical with Jamie Foxx, Beyonce, Eddie Murphy, Jennifer Hudson, Anika Noni Rose and Danny Glover.

Singer Michael Henderson is coming to Philly on Saturday, November 25th. Henderson is best known for the hits You Are My Starship, Be My Girl, In The Night-Time and At The Concert. Henderson will be doing two shows, 7pm and 10pm, at North By Northwest, 7165 Germantown Avenue. For more info call 215-248-1000 ext. 0

WHAT’S THE UNDERGROUND BUZZ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This female Singer is talented and pretty. She has a new project out, but she barely registers on the radar screen. She has a horrible attitude, and she prefers to act like a thug. She would be a much bigger star if she dropped the hood act. But, she won’t listen to anybody, and her new album is just collecting dust with low record sales. (Ya'll gurl Monica?)

jojapeach 11-22-2006 02:01 PM

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WHAT’S THE UNDERGROUND BUZZ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This female Singer is talented and pretty. She has a new project out, but she barely registers on the radar screen. She has a horrible attitude, and she prefers to act like a thug. She would be a much bigger star if she dropped the hood act. But, she won’t listen to anybody, and her new album is just collecting dust with low record sales. (Ya'll gurl Monica?)

Sounds like the homie. *sigh* Could also be Keyshia (sp?)Cole, but she doesn't have a new album right now, does she? *sigh, again*

I think it was said in another thread, but her music seems to have devolved from mature, grown-up tastes to hood hop and high school mess. Time to grow up, sweetie.

Conskeeted7 11-22-2006 04:40 PM

As far as the Kramer incident goes, every white person has some knowledge of where the word came from and what it represents, specifically when said from a White person to a Black person. With that knowledge, there is no justification for using that word if you are not Black. If you are Black and decide that is how you would like to classify yourself, that is up to you. However, I can find no justification for anyone else to use a word with such strong racist connotation for any purpose at all, comedic or otherwise.

The BET tribute to Gerald was pitiful. I was hoping to see more of a "E true hollywood story" type show. It was a half hour of clips from walk of fames and a few 5 second sound bites. They really could have done him more justice.

DSTCHAOS 11-22-2006 04:44 PM

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Sounds like the homie. *sigh* Could also be Keyshia (sp?)Cole, but she doesn't have a new album right now, does she? *sigh, again*

I think it was said in another thread, but her music seems to have devolved from mature, grown-up tastes to hood hop and high school mess. Time to grow up, sweetie.

I think a lot of people think Keyshia Cole's hood persona is endearing. Her reality show won her a lot of fans, too. Maybe she would be a bigger star without the thug act but I don't know.

I automatically thought Monica because she started off as a cutesy singer with a "tough attitude" back in the early 90's. Then the tough attitude turned from cute to "sitchogrownassdown." I think her duet with Brandy in '98 was the last time people really gave a damn about her.

Steeltrap 11-23-2006 05:56 PM

Glad that Chris and Malaak appear to be working things out. As I've said, Malaak elevates Chris, sort of like Tonya elevated 5-foot-4 inch Spike Lee.

Emmitt Smith and his wife on TV, talking: sounds interesting. Although it wouldn't be as fabulostic as BGA and Soror Starrah.

DSTCHAOS 11-25-2006 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Steeltrap (Post 1361766)
Emmitt Smith and his wife on TV, talking: sounds interesting. Although it wouldn't be as fabulostic as BGA and Soror Starrah.

His wife is a pretty woman but had on too much makeup. I always thought he was funny looking but he has a cuteness about him--nice smile and a nice career drive.

madmax 11-25-2006 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Conskeeted7 (Post 1361516)
As far as the Kramer incident goes, every white person has some knowledge of where the word came from and what it represents, specifically when said from a White person to a Black person. With that knowledge, there is no justification for using that word if you are not Black. If you are Black and decide that is how you would like to classify yourself, that is up to you. However, I can find no justification for anyone else to use a word with such strong racist connotation for any purpose at all, comedic or otherwise.


They can't do that to our pledges. Only we can do that to our pledges.

Honeykiss1974 11-25-2006 10:45 PM

Richards to appear on Jesse Jackson show

MsSweetness 11-26-2006 03:29 AM

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He needs to save it for somebody who gives a :eek:

kiml122 11-26-2006 03:01 PM

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Why does this fool think that he is cool

jojapeach 11-26-2006 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sophist08edLady (Post 1361447)
Mike Tyson, a male prostitute? The ex-boxing champ is considering taking a job as a male escort for women to make money. Tyson has fallen on hard times, and he is looking to make money any way he can. He is also trying to strike a deal for his own reality show.

Timeout. This is the same Mike that has a bad reputation with the ladies after a rape trial and accusations that he abused his wife Robin Givens. He thinks that sane women will pay t againo go out with him? Negative. He better try again. Maybe Celebrity Paranormal Project??? Then again, he would be following after Evander Holyfield, but why not?

whiteandblack 11-26-2006 05:53 PM

alge crumpler is thick as hell.

TheEpitome1920 11-27-2006 04:32 PM

Did Bebe Moore Campbell pass?:eek: :(

unspokenone25 11-27-2006 04:56 PM

^^^
http://www.maynardije.org/columns/di...061127_prince/

Yes, unfortunately, Soror Bebe Moore Campbell passed. Condolences to her husband, two children, family and friends.

CrimsonTide4 11-27-2006 05:30 PM

:( :( :( :( OMG!!!!! I forgot that she had been ill and just read the article. One of my favorite authors. I even met her in 2001 or 2002. WOW. Truly sad. Rest in peace and my condolences to her family, friends, and Sorors.

FeeFee 11-27-2006 05:48 PM

My face just went numb from shock. :eek:

Rest In Peace Soror. :( :(

mulattogyrl 11-27-2006 05:49 PM

This really hurts my heart. It really does. :(

skeeliteful 11-27-2006 06:04 PM

I forgot she had been ill as well. She was one of my favorite writers. She will be missed. :(


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