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jillybean 07-09-2006 11:11 AM

so i was just watching E news weekend and they were commenting on how it has been 77 days since Tom & Katie's daughter Suri was born and there has been absolutely no sightings of her. odd. even close friends of tom & katie's haven't seen the baby, like will smith/jada, and jonh travolta/kelly preston.

i swear, this baby does not really exist.

ASUADPi 07-09-2006 11:25 AM

US did an entire article about the "MIA Suri", here is the most interesting part of the article (that rings incredibly true)


"But with Suri, Cruise is caught in a Catch-22: Because of the much-criticized nature of his courtship of Holmes, going public with the photos of the baby could scream publicity hound. (And remember, Cruise, ever watchful of his box office grosses, has no film to promote at the moment.) On the other hand, if Cruise continues to keep the baby out of view, it may look like he has something to hide."


The magazine also did a mini-article:

Who Still Hasn't Met the Baby
"Baby Suri isn't just playing hide-and-seek with the public. A source says Cruise and Holmes have yet to show her off to fellow Scientologists John Travolta, Kelly Preston and Lisa Marie Presley. Even good pals Will and Jada Pinkett Smith supposedly have not met her, despite repeated calls to Cruise. "Every time it's a different excuse: He's busy or Kate's not feeling well," says the source. "[The Smiths] think it's so weird.""




I am stating to buy all the conspiracy theorists crap now. I mean something is definately off. Especially the fact that Tom is such a DEVOUT Scientologist and he hasn't shown any one in the church the baby yet. What?!? You would think he would want this child to make a "proper debut" with the members of the church! It doesn't make any sense.

Why isn't Katie going out in public with her child? Every time she is photographed in public recently she and Tom are out and Suri is no where to be found.

It is just so weird.


I may not have kids, but I know that when I have a child, I'd be wanting to SHOW MY CHILD OFF!!!! I'd be like "look at my baby". I don't think women do it on purpose, they are just proud of their child (and what they did, I guess).


Like I said, it's just weird.


The next article should be "Does Suri Even Exist"

Munchkin03 07-09-2006 11:36 AM

I never thought that baby was real. As much of an attention whore that Tom Cruise is, that baby would be out and about now.

33girl 07-09-2006 11:18 PM

Tom & Nicole Kidman's kids weren't photographed or shown in public for a LONG time. But obviously, this relationship is not like that relationship.

texas*princess 07-09-2006 11:20 PM

In the Entertainment Random thread (wherever it went..) I posted a link to an article that said the pictures may have not yet been released yet because they didn't get enough $$ offered for them.

Not saying I believe it, but it's an idea.

Didn't Madonna shield Lourdes (or whatever her name is) from the media until she was a big girl?

Anyway, Scientologists weird me out.

ASUADPi 07-09-2006 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl
Tom & Nicole Kidman's kids weren't photographed or shown in public for a LONG time. But obviously, this relationship is not like that relationship.


When he was with Nicole, he wasn't a publicity hound. I very much remember him sueing the tabloids quite a few times (and winning I think).


I'm sorry, the man lost credibility the moment he started jumping on Oprah's couch.

What I don't get is for a man who sues tabloids/magazines when they print gossip he hasn't done a damn thing recently. I mean before Katie "gave birth", there were TONS of articles about how they were splitting up. Pretty much every tabloid/gossip magazine had "sources" saying the relationship was over and they were putting on a sham. Now, tabloids/gossip magazines are questioning the existence of Suri and yet he hasn't done anything?

Maybe it's just me, but if I were such a publicity whore like Tom is and people (magazines/public) were talking crap that wasn't true I would be setting up an interview so quick the publics head would spin. I'd be issuing the pictures, hell even a copy of the birth certificate to say "see she's real". As almost a way to "one up" the public.

But he's not doing this. He's just sitting back, coming up with excuses and putting up with it.

I'm really starting to question if they haven't in fact broken up and if in fact Suri even exists.

kddani 07-10-2006 09:19 AM

http://www.tmz.com/2006/07/10/exclus...h-certificate/

Supposed copy of Suri's birth certificate, though the accompanying article points out a bunch of things that make it seem like it was a fake.

Taualumna 07-10-2006 10:29 AM

[QUOTE=texas*princess]In the Entertainment Random thread (wherever it went..) I posted a link to an article that said the pictures may have not yet been released yet because they didn't get enough $$ offered for them.

Not saying I believe it, but it's an idea.

[QUOTE]

Yeah, but this doesn't explain why Will and Jada and John and Kelly haven't seen Suri.

SOPi_Jawbreaker 07-10-2006 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASUADPi
When he was with Nicole, he wasn't a publicity hound. I very much remember him sueing the tabloids quite a few times (and winning I think).


I'm sorry, the man lost credibility the moment he started jumping on Oprah's couch.

What I don't get is for a man who sues tabloids/magazines when they print gossip he hasn't done a damn thing recently. I mean before Katie "gave birth", there were TONS of articles about how they were splitting up. Pretty much every tabloid/gossip magazine had "sources" saying the relationship was over and they were putting on a sham. Now, tabloids/gossip magazines are questioning the existence of Suri and yet he hasn't done anything?

Maybe it's just me, but if I were such a publicity whore like Tom is and people (magazines/public) were talking crap that wasn't true I would be setting up an interview so quick the publics head would spin. I'd be issuing the pictures, hell even a copy of the birth certificate to say "see she's real". As almost a way to "one up" the public.

But he's not doing this. He's just sitting back, coming up with excuses and putting up with it.

I'm really starting to question if they haven't in fact broken up and if in fact Suri even exists.

If I remember correctly, all the tabloids he had sued back in the day were over stories that he was gay. Maybe he doesn't care what the tabloids are saying now about him and Katie breaking up or about the baby being a sham, because it's all publicity. And maybe, the only reason he sued the tabloids in the past was because they had hit a little too close to home.

BetteDavisEyes 07-10-2006 12:07 PM

They are just nuts.

ASUADPi 07-10-2006 12:15 PM

Here's what I don't get...


Why did a FRIEND sign her birth certificate?!?!?

Seriously, if I were a parent I would want MY SIGNATURE on my kids birth certificate.


I'm sorry, this makes absolutely NO SENSE to me!!!!!!

adpiucf 07-10-2006 12:16 PM

Or it may be some Scientology thing to stay in seclusion until a certain amount of time has passed-- and it could be that the birth certificate on that web site is a fake. But that doesn't mean a real one doesn't exist.

texas*princess 07-10-2006 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by adpiucf
Or it may be some Scientology thing to stay in seclusion until a certain amount of time has passed-- and it could be that the birth certificate on that web site is a fake. But that doesn't mean a real one doesn't exist.

Yea I think this might be scientology related... but I guess if it was, all those other sychos.. errr.. scientologists wouldn't be wondering where the kid was, right?

dzfan 07-12-2006 04:18 PM

Okay, here is the rumor that I heard. Katie was dating someone (forget name), got preggers and then met tom cruise and they both needed to promote their show so they started dating REALLY seriously and then decided they wanted to get married but she was already preggers. She ended up havin the baby a few months earlier and that explains why they had to fake the birth certificate -- I dont think that the baby's is Toms. JMO...

33girl 07-12-2006 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dzfan
Okay, here is the rumor that I heard. Katie was dating someone (forget name)

Josh Hartnett or Katie's ex-fiancee, Chris Klein.

kddani 07-12-2006 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33girl
Josh Hartnett or Katie's ex-fiancee, Chris Klein.

For the baby's sake I hope it's Josh Hartnett. Chris Klein is a fugly idiot.

ASUADPi 07-14-2006 10:20 AM

I'VE GOT IT!!!!


We haven't seen the TomKitten because Suri doesn't exist and they are in the process of trying to adopt an infant (which lots of people want) and spending booku bucks to keep it completely and utterly silent.

LMFAO


I should be a conspiracy theorist. :D

kddani 07-14-2006 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASUADPi
I'VE GOT IT!!!!


We haven't seen the TomKitten because Suri doesn't exist and they are in the process of trying to adopt an infant (which lots of people want) and spending booku bucks to keep it completely and utterly silent.

LMFAO


I should be a conspiracy theorist. :D

Lol, that's not much of a stretch, though ;)

mu_agd 07-14-2006 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASUADPi
I'VE GOT IT!!!!


We haven't seen the TomKitten because Suri doesn't exist and they are in the process of trying to adopt an infant (which lots of people want) and spending booku bucks to keep it completely and utterly silent.

LMFAO


I should be a conspiracy theorist. :D


Hahaha.. this theory has actually been floated around for quite some time now.

AlphaFrog 07-14-2006 10:44 AM

I'm wondering if it's not really someone else's baby (Chris Kline, et al), as mentioned, and their waiting because it's easy to tell that a 3 month old is not a newborn, but not as easy to tell that a 12 month old is not a 9 month old. My daugheter was taller then a couple two year olds at her daycare when she was one.

xo_kathy 07-14-2006 12:17 PM

But don't we all remember - and I think it was disucssed earlier in this thread - that for the longest time people thought she wasn't really pregnant? Remember the pics of her supposedly at 5 & 6 months but barely any belly? If this theory of her being already pregannt was true, shw would have really showed at that time. I don't buy the other father thing because of the timing issue.

Someone today said that they think they are holding out for the money. Let's have everyone talk about how they haven't seen the baby, then at 4 months sell the rights to OK! or People or whatever. That seems more logical to me.

ASUADPi 07-15-2006 11:52 AM

But I don't think they would get as much money as Brad and Angelina did.

I'm sorry, the longer they "hold out" showing her, the more suspicious the public is going to be.


I could have sworn I read in some magazine that Katies parents (the grandparents!!!!) haven't even seen her yet. If that's true WTF!! I mean that is odd. I would still show my kid to my parents. Hello, it is their grandchild.


Plus, I'm sorry the birth certificate seems a little off to me. The fact that it was filed late, her parents didn't sign and a nurse who wasn't present for the "delivery" signed off on it.

And let's face it, if I were Tom right now, I'd be doing everything in my power to PROVE the public wrong. Yet, we haven't heard a damn thing. Which makes me wonder what is he hiding?

epchick 07-16-2006 09:25 PM

I think it was on MSNBC or one of those news stations but the headline was "Mysterious Suri Spotted." Unfortunately I got the tail end of the conversation so I don't know the jist of what they were talking about, but obviously someone supposedly saw "Suri" with Tom.

Anyone know what really happened?

preciousjeni 07-16-2006 10:09 PM

http://toronto.fashion-monitor.com/n...9katie-holmes2

Quote:

The magazine quotes locals as saying Suri has "small hands" and is "funny-looking."
I don't know what the "Fashion Monitor" is but that quote was kinda funny.

f8nacn 07-16-2006 10:48 PM

Talk Soup had a hilarious scene regarding the mysterious Suri...

Marie 07-17-2006 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASUADPi

And let's face it, if I were Tom right now, I'd be doing everything in my power to PROVE the public wrong. Yet, we haven't heard a damn thing. Which makes me wonder what is he hiding?


Ok, I think that it is quite suspicious that this kid has been MIA since birth. However, I'm one of those people who doesn't believe it taking the baby out for at least 6 weeks, so it might be plausible that they're just in the house shielding the baby from the press and germs.

However, w/all the gossip and non-stop rumors about Tom Cruise (or any other celebrity), I'm sure that he couldn't care less what the public thinks.

AlphaFrog 07-17-2006 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marie
However, I'm one of those people who doesn't believe it taking the baby out for at least 6 weeks, so it might be plausible that they're just in the house shielding the baby from the press and germs.


THE GRANDPARENTS AND CLOSEST FRIENDS HAVE NOT SEEN THE BABY. It's one thing not to take the baby out for 6 weeks, but NO ONE has seen it.

Marie 07-17-2006 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog
THE GRANDPARENTS AND CLOSEST FRIENDS HAVE NOT SEEN THE BABY. It's one thing not to take the baby out for 6 weeks, but NO ONE has seen it.


You're a very angry person.


I'm not saying it isn't suspicious. Honestly, I don't know if the grand parents have or haven't seen the kid b/c most of what we mention is tabloid rumors. I'm just trying to provide some possible alternatives to the fake baby/black market adoption scenario.

Sheesh! :rolleyes:

AlphaFrog 07-17-2006 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marie
You're a very angry person.


I'm not saying it isn't suspicious. Honestly, I don't know if the grand parents have or haven't seen the kid b/c most of what we mention is tabloid rumors. I'm just trying to provide some possible alternatives to the fake baby/black market adoption scenario.

Sheesh! :rolleyes:


I was making a point, it's not that serious, really.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

litlbear1072 07-17-2006 12:37 PM

Well, I live in Toledo where Katie is from and it is just as much of a big rumor mill here. I haven't heard anything about the grandparents not seeing Suri but a woman called into one of the radio stations and said she had worked with one of Katie's sisters at one time. She supposedly called Katie's sister but her husband answered and said she was out of town visiting her sister's new baby. Of course I think that's just someone trying to get some attention. I'm still not sure I believe there is a baby. :confused:

adpiucf 07-17-2006 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by f8nacn
Talk Soup had a hilarious scene regarding the mysterious Suri...

OMG-- that was awesome.

"That's not a baby! That's a cocker spaniel!"

"That's not a woman's breast! It's a spoon with peanut butter on the end of it!"

kddani 07-19-2006 07:08 PM

Fellow Scientologist claims to have seen Suri.... right..... very credible source!
 
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/...2212269&page=1

Drolefille 07-19-2006 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kddani

If another crazy man had corroborated Don Quixote's story of giants and such, would that have made it any more real?

Lol.. I have to believe there's a baby, I just wonder what happened to it.

RedVelvet 07-19-2006 07:38 PM

Finally, a pic of the mystery baby!
 
http://67.92.15.34/images/babies/new210.jpg

:p

honeychile 07-19-2006 10:40 PM

Do you think that if everyone ignores them, they'll just go away? And take whatever is passing for their baby with them?

SOPi_Jawbreaker 07-19-2006 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kddani

Suri is "a cross between the two, [with] dark, straight hair and dark eyes," another pal said to the magazine.

It's true. I've seen Suri and she does look just like Tom and Katie...and she does have dark, straight hair and dark eyes.























http://www.jolinko.com/f/35bdd256951...46ccaccf1f.jpg

epchick 07-20-2006 12:39 PM

my favorite line of the whole article "She's a newborn and normal size" LMFAO!!! What are we expecting this 3 month old to be 7 feet tall or something? Oh lord, and I gave Leah Remini so much credit and now its all shot to hell! too bad.

jitterbug13 07-20-2006 12:59 PM

I though Leah was too busy hanging with JLo to have seen the baby. Well at least the Cabbage Patch looks like Tom. :p

jitterbug13 07-25-2006 02:21 PM

Sean P. IMing Suri
 
This is cute...:p

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/celeb...th_suri_1.html

ASUADPi 07-25-2006 02:24 PM

OMG. ROTFL!!!!!!

That was pretty frickin funny!


What's sad is this is probably the conversation they would have if they could talk. They'd be thinking "damn my parents are odd". LOL


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