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starang21 03-20-2004 07:08 PM

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Originally posted by Colonist
Yeah all us racist white fraternities, I mean shoot if you join an NIC fraternity you must be racist...oops gotta go I have a Klan meeting.
you said it, not me.

starang21 03-20-2004 07:09 PM

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Originally posted by pike
PHASAD1913 IT WASN'T A RACIST MANNER. DO YOU KNOW ANY OF THESE GUYS, OR WERE YOU AT THE PARTY? JUST BECAUSE THAY ARE PREDOMINATELY WHITE MAKES THEM RACIST? SO I GUESS THE AFRICAN AMERICANS IN THEIR CHAPTER WERE BEING RACISTS TOO?
fact of the matter is that this a bigoted act. you can apologize for them all you want, but if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck.....

Colonist 03-20-2004 07:10 PM

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Originally posted by pike
PHASAD1913 IT WASN'T A RACIST MANNER. DO YOU KNOW ANY OF THESE GUYS, OR WERE YOU AT THE PARTY? JUST BECAUSE THAY ARE PREDOMINATELY WHITE MAKES THEM RACIST? SO I GUESS THE AFRICAN AMERICANS IN THEIR CHAPTER WERE BEING RACISTS TOO?
Pike, don't worry about Phasad1913, he's just another dime a dozen militant "everyone white man is holding me down" kinda guy, nothing is his fault its the fault of the evil, racist, white man.

starang21 03-20-2004 07:16 PM

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Originally posted by Colonist
First you talk crap about all NIC/NPC fraternities/sororities and then when she responds inkind you start cussing and getting flustered, can we say double standard?

As for your expression I think we both brought it up because you've used it three time if not more in this thread, christ find a new phrase its not that hard.

did you even see what i cursed about? are you an idiot? apparently, so. who's flustered?

evidently, you really had no clue what i was talking about with my expression. personally, i could care less if you don't like it...as if i'll cater my choice of words to a random screen name.

pike 03-20-2004 07:16 PM

Who is comparing us to a duck? shows your intelligence. and no it isn't bigotry, it is called being in college, having fun, and having a themed party. pretty soon, nothing will be allowed, because someone is going to be offended. if i could count the # of times that i have been offended by stuff, but hey have a sense of humor about it, and don't let stupid shit get me all riled up. can i ask u a question starang21? tell me why blackface is insulting to you personally? does it threaten YOU, or belittle YOU in any way?

starang21 03-20-2004 07:17 PM

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Originally posted by Colonist
Pike, don't worry about Phasad1913, he's just another dime a dozen militant "everyone white man is holding me down" kinda guy, nothing is his fault its the fault of the evil, racist, white man.
actually, Phasad1913 is a Delta woman. goes to show you the quality of people out there today. don't get mad because these pikes are bigots.

James 03-20-2004 07:18 PM

The movie PCU comes to mind . . .

pike 03-20-2004 07:19 PM

starang21, whats your name?, maybe they should add you to their lawsuit for slander and defamation.

starang21 03-20-2004 07:20 PM

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Originally posted by pike
Who is comparing us to a duck? shows your intelligence. and no it isn't bigotry, it is called being in college, having fun, and having a themed party. pretty soon, nothing will be allowed, because someone is going to be offended. if i could count the # of times that i have been offended by stuff, but hey have a sense of humor about it, and don't let stupid shit get me all riled up. can i ask u a question starang21? tell me why blackface is insulting to you personally? does it threaten YOU, or belittle YOU in any way?
apparently, you've never heard that expression before.

walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...must be a duck.

if you want to justify this bigoted behavior, fine with me. blackface is offensive and bigoted act, and everyone HUMAN should be offended. maybe, if those pikes weren't bigots, they might know that.

starang21 03-20-2004 07:21 PM

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Originally posted by pike
starang21, whats your name?, maybe they should add you to their lawsuit for slander and defamation.
you'd like to know that wouldn't you? if you want, hit me on the PM. as for suing me for calling them bigots...does it hurt YOU in anyway? belittle YOU? you're just mad because they're bigots.

Colonist 03-20-2004 07:22 PM

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Originally posted by starang21
and everyone HUMAN should be offended.
Only people who are offended are overly-PC liberals, and whinny special interest groups. It was a stupid mistake thats all.

starang21 03-20-2004 07:22 PM

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Originally posted by James
The movie PCU comes to mind . . .
i liked that movie.

pike 03-20-2004 07:22 PM

way to steer clear of the questions buddy. guess you have no answers.

starang21 03-20-2004 07:23 PM

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Originally posted by Colonist
Only people who are offended are overly-PC liberals, and whinny special interest groups. It was a stupid mistake thats all.
no, it's a bigoted act. this wasn't a mistake. if you want to fight for bigots, that's fine. no law against that.

starang21 03-20-2004 07:23 PM

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Originally posted by pike
way to steer clear of the questions buddy. guess you have no answers.
i answered the question. or are you too slow to understand it?

Colonist 03-20-2004 07:25 PM

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Originally posted by starang21
no, it's a bigoted act. this wasn't a mistake. if you want to fight for bigots, that's fine. no law against that.
Christ go find something else to bitch about, try to bring affirmative action fully back or some other crap, stop talking crap about a group of college kids having fun and making a simple mistake.

Honestly, people like you who bitch this much over the tiniest things MAKE some people bigots.

pike 03-20-2004 07:25 PM

actually, i asked how it offended you personally. did it offend you personally. i never heard that question answered.

starang21 03-20-2004 07:26 PM

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Originally posted by Colonist
Christ go find something else to bitch about, try to bring affirmative action fully back or some other crap, stop talking crap about a group of college kids having fun and making a simple mistake.

Honestly, people like you who bitch this much over the tiniest things MAKE some people bigots.

no, they are bigots. evidently, you'd probably do this yourself. like you said, you wouldn't do it with black folks around, so is it really just fun and games? obviously, people have big balls when they don't think they'll get caught. these kids are bigots. it's your oversensitive ass who wants to fight for bigots rights.

starang21 03-20-2004 07:27 PM

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Originally posted by pike
actually, i asked how it offended you personally. did it offend you personally. i never heard that question answered.

yes, i did answer that. but for you..i'll answer it again.

i'm offended by blackface. is that clear enough for you? or do you need to read it again? it's a bigoted act, and i'm offended by such acts. clear?

Colonist 03-20-2004 07:28 PM

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Originally posted by starang21
no, they are bigots. evidently, you'd probably do this yourself. like you said, you wouldn't do it with black folks around, so is it really just fun and games? obviously, people have big balls when they don't think they'll get caught. these kids are bigots. it's your oversensitive ass who wants to fight for bigots rights.
Freedom of Speech what don't you get about it, if some guys want to have a Gay Pride parade thats their freedom, if other people want to wave a swastika around thats their freedom, and if a couple college kids put on black face and go to a private party THATS THEIR FREEDOM.

pike 03-20-2004 07:29 PM

WHY are you offended by blackface moron? wghat are your feelings, odes it bring YOU down in this world? NO. Do u even know the definintion for bigotry? Obviously not, because you are a bigot yourself.

starang21 03-20-2004 07:29 PM

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Originally posted by Colonist
Freedom of Speech what don't you get about it, if some guys want to have a Gay Pride parade thats their freedom, if other people want to wave a swastika around thats their freedom, and if a couple college kids put on black face and go to a private party THATS THEIR FREEDOM.
hey, who said they should be jailed? are you an idiot? or do you just not read? they're bigots, plain and simple. they have rights just like the rest of us. there are plenty of americans who are bigots. if you want to fight for that...like i said in a previous posts, cool with me.

Colonist 03-20-2004 07:29 PM

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Originally posted by pike
Obviously not, because you are a bigot yourself.
Amen.

starang21 03-20-2004 07:30 PM

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Originally posted by pike
WHY are you offended by blackface moron? wghat are your feelings, odes it bring YOU down in this world? NO. Do u even know the definintion for bigotry? Obviously not, because you are a bigot yourself.
it's a racist act, if you don't understand what could be offensive about that then you live in a smaller world than i originally thought. call me a bigot, i could care less...i'm not the one trying to say those bigots were just trying to have fun.

pike 03-20-2004 07:31 PM

Colonist- these people don't even understand what they are saying, they all have closed minds, and don;t wanna hear or even think about two sides of a story.

starang21 03-20-2004 07:31 PM

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Originally posted by Colonist
Amen.
this is coming from someone who thinks what these kids did was not offensive. you're opinon matters about this much.

Colonist 03-20-2004 07:31 PM

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Originally posted by starang21
hey, who said they should be jailed? are you an idiot? or do you just not read? they're bigots, plain and simple. they have rights just like the rest of us. there are plenty of americans who are bigots. if you want to fight for that...like i said in a previous posts, cool with me.
You and a few others wanted sanctions, etc.

My personal qualm in all of this is the double standard on racism.

Black pride= pride in your heritage

White pride= racism

And people like you bitch all about being oppressed, etc. but the minute anyone does something you disagree with you throw in the race card and cry foul.

Colonist 03-20-2004 07:32 PM

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Originally posted by pike
Colonist- these people don't even understand what they are saying, they all have closed minds, and don;t wanna hear or even think about two sides of a story.
Welcome to GC ;)

starang21 03-20-2004 07:32 PM

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Originally posted by pike
Colonist- these people don't even understand what they are saying, they all have closed minds, and don;t wanna hear or even think about two sides of a story.
no, you fraternity brothers have a close mind. a close mind that allowed it to come to the conclusion that black face is an ok party favor.

Colonist 03-20-2004 07:33 PM

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Originally posted by starang21
no, you fraternity brothers have a close mind. a close mind that allowed it to come to the conclusion that black face is an ok party favor.
It was a simple mistake yet you blow it up as a heinous act of racism.

starang21 03-20-2004 07:33 PM

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Originally posted by Colonist
You and a few others wanted sanctions, etc.

My personal qualm in all of this is the double standard on racism.

Black pride= pride in your heritage

White pride= racism

And people like you bitch all about being oppressed, etc. but the minute anyone does something you disagree with you throw in the race card and cry foul.

i could care less if they get punished. they're infamy on this message board is enough.

where have i said anything about being oppressed? clearly, you're trying to reach for something to hold onto. and what does white pride have anything to do with black face? you really are an idiot.

starang21 03-20-2004 07:34 PM

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Originally posted by Colonist
It was a simple mistake yet you blow it up as a heinous act of racism.
nope, they are bigots. plain and simple. if you think it's ok...that's fine. it's not like you have much weight in this anway.

Colonist 03-20-2004 07:37 PM

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Originally posted by starang21
i could care less if they get punished. they're infamy on this message board is enough.

where have i said anything about being oppressed? clearly, you're trying to reach for something to hold onto. and what does white pride have anything to do with black face? you really are an idiot.

I was making a general point, if you bothered to read my post, about the double standard of racism in America. Basically its okay for blacks to be racist, but the minute a white person does/says anything that could REMOTELY be construde as biggoted they are branded a racist and evil. And that is what is ridiculous. No one, as an earlier poster said, would have batted an eye had it been a black fraternity throwing a white trash party, but the minute that two kids who without thinking and I'd wager, without malicious intent, wore blackface to a PRIVATE party, they and their entire fraternity is branded racist by you and a few others on this board. Now that is idiotic.

Phasad1913 03-20-2004 07:39 PM

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Originally posted by Colonist
Yeah all us racist white fraternities, I mean shoot if you join an NIC fraternity you must be racist...oops gotta go I have a Klan meeting.
Um, I said...and I re-read my post to be sure, "another white fraternity acting in a RACIST MANNER". Feel free to re-read it yourself...its there, trust me. If you take that to mean that I think all white fraternities are racist, then so be it.

Also, I refuse to take the blame if time and time again white fraternities around this country throw these types of parties and then leave it up to apologists like you all to jusitfy their unjustifiable actions. They have the right to do,as you all say,then I have the right to be pissed about it.

starang21 03-20-2004 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by Colonist
I was making a general point, if you bothered to read my post, about the double standard of racism in America. Basically its okay for blacks to be racist, but the minute a white person does/says anything that could REMOTELY be construde as biggoted they are branded a racist and evil. And that is what is ridiculous. No one, as an earlier poster said, would have batted an eye had it been a black fraternity throwing a white trash party, but the minute that two kids who without thinking and I'd wager, without malicious intent, wore blackface to a PRIVATE party, they and their entire fraternity is branded racist by you and a few others on this board. Now that is idiotic.
general to who? idiot, that has nothing to do with this matter. the point is, those kids are bigots. you're the one trying to justify it. you know why no one would bat an eyelash at a black fraternity throwing one? because NONE OF USE WOULD THROW ONE AND THAT'S COMMON KNOWLEDGE. who ever said anything about Pi Kappa Alpha being racist? not me, twit. those pikes? does that statement ring a bell? i could care less about malicious intent, those pikes commmited a bigoted acts...like i said before

if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...must be a duck.

Colonist 03-20-2004 07:41 PM

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Originally posted by starang21
if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...must be a duck.
I swear between this and your "tea in china" quote you don't say much else eh?

Colonist 03-20-2004 07:43 PM

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Originally posted by starang21
because NONE OF USE WOULD THROW ONE AND THAT'S COMMON KNOWLEDGE.
Cause God knows there are no racist blacks especially no racist black fraternity members, oh wait they wouldn't be racist, its a joke.

starang21 03-20-2004 07:44 PM

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Originally posted by Colonist
I swear between this and your "tea in china" quote you don't say much else eh?
so uhhh...no comment to those pikes being bigots? stupid is as stupid does, forrest.

Phasad1913 03-20-2004 07:44 PM

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Originally posted by pike
PHASAD1913 IT WASN'T A RACIST MANNER. DO YOU KNOW ANY OF THESE GUYS, OR WERE YOU AT THE PARTY? JUST BECAUSE THAY ARE PREDOMINATELY WHITE MAKES THEM RACIST? SO I GUESS THE AFRICAN AMERICANS IN THEIR CHAPTER WERE BEING RACISTS TOO?
No, I tend to think the black people at the party handled the situation, or didn't however they decided to, or not to.

Hey, I'm going off of the same information everyone else is on this board, in addition to my general knowledge about this country, its history as well as the present (see above response of mine mentioning the fact that this has gone on too many times for anyone to be innocent in doing something like this) I was not at the party , Thank GOD, nor was I around during many times and eras throughout this nations history...doesn't mean what has happened/happens to Black people isn't racist. Nor does it mean that I cannot identify it as such just because I wasn't there.

starang21 03-20-2004 07:45 PM

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Originally posted by Colonist
Cause God knows there are no racist blacks especially no racist black fraternity members, oh wait they wouldn't be racist, its a joke.
so where have any of us thrown a white trash bash? your argument is pure bullshit. hmmm...does this mean that you have nothing to say?


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