Tonight...
 

So is Camille gone tonight or what???

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I hope so...I can smell her attitude through the TV...

I'm more anxious to see if Ty Ty baby can sing ;)

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But see tonight, Camille might be the best dancer and get to stay an extra week.


FYI I read Janice Dickinson's 376 page autobiography in 2 days. I highly recommend it. I come away now understanding more of her criticisms of the girls. She was actually really pretty before all the cosmetic surgery. Ol girl was off the hook. Wait til you read who her lovers were and her temptations were. She even came close to being WITH Bill Cosby. :(

what was Camille doing, rolling all over the floor.....who she think she is...Beyonce?


Go head Shandi...shake your booty!

I bet you Shandi can shake it like a salt shaker.:o :p

Camille stop trying to stand out. . . you suck at that.


Tonight's bottom 2 I predict will be Sara and Camille with either going home, LOL.

I agree CT4, it will be Camille and Sara.

UGH I would be MOST OFFENDED if I had to hang out with ODB!!!!!!!! We might get pulled over or something. When was the last time THAT BASTID had a hit!!!


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LMAO @ Shandi's boyfriend hanging up on her!!! LMAO LMAO LMAO

A HUMMER LIMO?!?!?!!? dayuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum

Kinetic is cute. . . :o

Umm Camille, can you read?!?! :confused: :p

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, poor yoanna, LOL!!! couldn't find the beat then she fell on top of that....

Why do I have a feeling that Yoanna and Sara will be in the bottom tonight?


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dayum I was right. . .my pick changed because of Yoanna falling flat on her azz. .. .

Oh Tyra stop crying. . . :(

Dayum I had a bad feeling it would be Sara. Damn everyone is crying. :(

umm, Tyra, please shut up and tell us who is going home

except Camille.... she's just standing there like.... whatever.

Oh I must have overlooked her.

Please show the scenes for next week first. I do not want to see this video.

UGH @ Tyra licking that microphone in her video.

What did Camille say?!?!?!:o

I thought I was the only one that noticed that.

Next week looks like it is gonna be good!

Thats what I want to know too. Next week is gonna be good. Whatever Camille did, is it enough to send her home?

I think she keeps the drama going in the house and makes the show interesting 'cause you always wanna see what camille did or said..... so i hate to say it but I hope they keep her around

booo at Sara going home.

Sara, I expected more from dancing-wise. And Camille - well...

Shandi surprised me with her ability to dance. And she totally tripped on her boyfriend.

So what does everybody think about Tyra's singing? It was better than I thought it would be. She sounds kinda like Jennifer Lopez to me...and I kinda like J-Lo :)

i think she sounds like j.lo too. but do we really need another j.lo or j.lo wanna be in the music industry....isn't one enough?

i had a fit when i saw camille rolling on the floor. she just tries tooooooo hard

i admire april's drive but i want to see her loosen up

shandi surprised the hell out of me! i pegged her to be the worst dancer and boy was i wrong!!!

i'll admit that yoanna has a great face but she CAN NOT model clothes. so let's just go ahead and send her home

i was sad that sara left. that poor child's sobs told me she really wants it. how is a model too sexy for her own good? tyra said it best when she said that girl could hold her own standing next to tyra and heidi and i agree. sara should not have gone home!

soooo if tyra wants to be taken seriously as a singer why was she pretty much nekkid?? and the licikng of the mic was gross. her song sounds like a brandy song but it still sounds better than janet's new song

Why oh why did they send those girls out to dinner with ODB?? You couldn't understand anything that was coming out of his mouth, Old Ignant Bastid!!! :mad: :mad:

LOL @ Shandi and her boyfriend. She was feeling her some Kinetic though (yes, he is a cutie). Shandi did her thug thizzle when it came to dancing. She is increasingly breaking out of her shell. I think her boyfriend might start to have a problem with the new and improved Shandi.

Hummer limo - say word!!

April needs to relax and stop being so analytical with stuff.

Yoanna busting her behind on the video set - LMBO.

I also noticed Camille just standing there when Sara had to leave. The ending was really sad, you could tell that she wanted this so badly.

Ms. Tyra's video - that whole licking the mic thing was gross. Overall, the song had a nice beat - produced by Rodney Jerkins. Hell, if Ashanti, J. Lo and Britney can sell a bunch of records, why can't Tyra? She doesn't sound any worse, IMO. Was Camille cut out of the final video? I didn't recall seeing her in it. :confused:

She was in it doing that synchronized crap and at the beginning when Tyra was sitting in the mirror.

She sounded aight. I won't buy it or dance to the song at the club.

Yeah when I heard the song I though of J-lo's first single "If you had my Love"

girl yes....how embarrassing was that?? What made them select him? His mouth was soooo nasty looking! Ugh!

I didn't watch this last night and I SWORE I would not peep this thread to spoil it for myself tonight but I couldn't help it.

LOL...I'm pitiful.

I recorded it [the show] and thought it was the bomb!

Okay, Camille did much better this week, but we know that could be fronting just to make it another week. Her dancing on the floor was off the chain. I couldn't believe the sista didn't have "it" in her. You all said that she showed no emotion when Sara got voted off, but I actually think she was trying to hold on to her hard exterior, so it looked like she wasn't sad, but I actually thought she was sad. Granted, she wasn't the most emotional out of the rest of the group, but for some reason I think she keeps reminding herself that this is a competition.

Shandi has soul! I like her so much.

April is drop dead gorgeous.

Yoanna-I like her, but I think she is a bit jealous of Camille, and I hate that part. It was funny when she fell on her tail.

Tyra's video was RAUNCHY!! And no, she can't sing! That little stuff she was doing is what I do in the shower (not to brag!). If that's a definition a singing, a lot of people should have records out. Am I right? But she has the money, and the appropriate producer (Rodney Jerkins) so this happened for her. I hated her licking the mic. Hello? Kids are watching this show, Tyra! Stank!
Does she still go with Chris Weber?

On the flip side, I love how personable Tyra is with her girls. She has a heart and is not afraid to show it on national television. I like that about her.

No, Chris left her for good to return to me. I keep telling him to leave those model types alone. :D :p

I thought I was the only one thinking that..... ewww ODB, WHY? He was very embarrassing!

Kinetic was cute and Ms. Shandi was getting her flirt on though.....:cool:

The show last night had me crackin up!!

First of all, it was a surprise that Tyra is doing the singin thang and I must give it to her, she sounds aight, although as stated before, her voice bares a resemblance to that of J.Lo's. And what was Yoanna doin? I was crackin up when I saw her trip, slip, and hit the floor. That po' child looked like a chicken with a limp and its head cut off!! I was dyin laughin at her. I thought that would really be the kicker to send her home, but I was wrong. That panel was hatin on Sara a little bit, though, especially that jane magazine guy, who said she looks like she's running low on the market, like for beer commercials. I was highly upset about that comment. Sara has an exotic look and Tyra said herself that she would fit right in with the other victoria secret models, but I guess that wasn't enough. And I was certainly surprised to see that Camille, for once, didn't have anything to say. And she actually smiled. I think that was the first real smile I saw, although that vein that popped out from her head when she did smile, made me think that smile was a little forced. I guess we'll have to tune on in next week to see how far miss Camille is really going to go. I loved her attitude, at first, of keepin it real and being there for the competition, but last week, it just got out of control and I started thinking that maybe she is just being 'cocky', but all's well that ends well, I guess. We'll have to wait. I personally think April's got this whole thing locked, although Shandi's not too far off my list. That girl's got a little soul to make her move like that and kickin it with kinetic? hmmm...she looked like she was havin TOO much fun with his cute self.

Washington Post article that mentions Camille and other reality TV sistas...
 

The writer is AfAm, by the way.

The Evil Sista Of Reality Television
Shows Trot Out Old Stereotypes To Spice Up Stagnant Story Lines

By Teresa Wiltz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, February 25, 2004; Page C01


If you've ever seen a reality TV show, chances are you've seen her: a perpetually perturbed, tooth-sucking, eye-rolling, finger-wagging harpy, creating confrontations in her wake and perceiving racial slights from the flimsiest of provocations.

At the very sight of her, her cast mates tremble in fear.

And no wonder.

She's the Sista With an Attitude.

She's the one with a boulder on her shoulder, screeching through endless catfights, a sight so pervasive that Africana.com has trademarked the expression The Evil Black Woman to describe these African American denizens of Unreality TV.

The SWA is all sharp edges and raw nerves, an angry, aggressive know-it-all, presenting a one-sided view of black womanhood, the brainchild of some network suit screaming into the speakerphone: Bring me the sassy sista!

The latest entrants in a long and loathsome line of offenders: Alicia Calaway on "Survivor: All-Stars," she of the Finger and the forked tongue. The lithe and lanky Camille McDonald (a Howard University student) on "America's Next Top Model," pilloried on Internet message boards for her "stank attitude." And let us not forget the elegantly icy Omarosa "I'm not here to make friends" Manigault-Stallworth, the star of Donald Trump's "The Apprentice" and arguably the most hated woman on television.

They seethe. They sulk. They sneer.

And they've all got their shtick.

Like Alicia, who isn't afraid to stick her Finger in the face of anyone who gets in her way.

"There's a talent to the Finger," she says in a video profile posted on CBS.Com. "You can't do it without the head and you can't do it without the Finger. It has to be both.

"You've got to be really angry. You know what I mean? You have to be in the moment. So you have to be a little ghetto; you have to have a little rhythm and you have to be mad."

Such disclosures make us pause and ponder the prefab nature of Reality TV, where the participants, grasping for those Warholian nanoseconds of fame, manufacture an Image, the better to garner maximum airtime.

And so we have stock characters: The small-town naif struggling to hold onto those down-home values -- not to mention his/her virginity. The bumbling bigot who doesn't realize that he's an Archie Bunker in the making. The Troubled Soul who's one step away from rehab. The Vamp/Party Girl who likes to toss back the shots, especially if that means slurping tequila out of someone's navel. And then there's the SWA's male counterpart: The Brother With an Attitude, aka The Angry Black Man. (Though "The Apprentice's" Kwame Jackson, a Harvard MBA, is an easygoing sort whom everybody wants on their team.)

"We know all these shows are edited and manipulated to create images that look real and sort of exist in real time," says Todd Boyd, critical-studies professor at the University of Southern California's School of Cinema-Television and author of "Young Black Rich and Famous: The Rise of the NBA, The Hip Hop Invasion and the Transformation of American Culture." "But really what we have is a construction. . . . The whole enterprise of reality television relies on stereotypes. It relies on common stock, easily identifiable images."

To be fair, not all of the black women populating reality TV come armed with an attitude. Notable exceptions are to be found in Keshia Knight Pulliam and Ananda Lewis on "Celebrity Mole Yucatan," the sweet-natured NFL wives of a few seasons back on "The Amazing Race" and the female half of the lovey-dovey African American couple on "Fear Factor." But more often than not, the one who'll get the airtime, the one who gets invited back in endless reunions of MTV's "Real World" and "Road Rules," is the one who brings the drama.

Regarding Coral ("Real World 10"), the abrasive perennial on countless MTV spinoffs, the network's Web site enthuses that she is known for "stinging one-liners" and "Being a major bee-atch when she feels like it." Perhaps this is why it's Alicia ("Survivor II"), not the even-tempered Vecepia ("Survivor IV"), who is now duking it out with the other Survivor All-Stars. Attitude, it seems, wins every time when it comes to television.

Or, as the singer Kelis observes in an interview on VH1's "TV's Illest Minority Moments Presented by Ego Trip," a documentary about television stereotypes:

"We're known for being like, very -- " she pauses to snap her fingers and roll her neck -- 'Uh-uh. Let me tell you something.' People put us in that category."

The Categories exist because, well, that's entertainment. Says Andy Dehnart, creator of RealityBlurred.com, a daily compendium of TV's top reality shows: "If you have footage of Alicia sitting around chatting about her favorite foods and if you have footage of her wagging her finger, screaming, it's much more interesting. These shows aren't documentaries."

(We were, alas, unable to personally speak with Alicia, since at press time she was officially still in the game and sequestered in whatever place it is reality TV hides people before viewers are privy to their fate.)

Reality TV, Dehnart says, relies on the visual shorthand of recognizable stereotypes. This becomes problematic when there's only a handful of people of color on these shows. An obnoxious white guy can just be the obnoxious guy and not a stand-in for his entire race.

"Race or sex," Dehnart says, "can be a particularly easy target," one that plays off the conscious or unconscious prejudices of the viewer.

Indeed, the SWA feeds off preconceived notions of African American women. After all, she's an archetype as old as D.W. Griffith, first found in the earliest of movies where slave women were depicted as ornery and cantankerous, uppity Negresses who couldn't be trusted to remember their place. Think Hattie McDaniel in "Gone With the Wind," bossing and fussing as she yanked and tugged on Miss Scarlett's corset strings. Or Sapphire Stevens on the much-pilloried "Amos N' Andy," serving up confrontation on a platter, extra-spicy, don't hold the sass. Or Florence, the mouthy maid on "The Jeffersons."

Then there's Whoopi Goldberg on NBC. (And what's with her "Whoopi" co-star, Elizabeth Regan, playing Rita, a white woman who thinks she's black, and sets out to out-Sista the other SWAs?) Or Queen Latifah playing the snippy ex-con schooling a clueless Steve Martin in "Bringin' Down the House." And Comic Wanda Sykes reaming a clueless Larry David in HBO's "Curb Your Enthusiasm." Sometimes attitude is looked at with approval if it's all for the greater good: to help hapless white folks become Better People. And sometimes it's used as a way of dismissing a black woman, nay, any woman, who's got a legitimate beef: Shrug and say, "She got an attitude."

Which brings us to Omarosa.

She's tall, she's gorgeous, she's a former White House political appointee, she's not shucking and jiving, but she is perpetually on edge. As the NBC publicity people spin it, "She has a PhD" -- actually, she's a doctoral candidate at Howard -- "but she has her real education from the streets. . . . She's fierce! She's feisty!"

And, as is played out in NBC's "The Apprentice," where 16 tycoon wannabes jockey for Donald Trump's favor in various entrepreneurial endeavors, she butts heads with just about everyone on the show, most notably the other women (mostly white, with one Latina and one Asian). She takes racial offense when one of the cast members tells her "that's the pot calling the kettle black." She condescends. She skipped an apartment rehab job because she said a chip of plaster had fallen on her head and she had a headache, while her teammates (including one who'd just found out that her mother had cancer) labored on. And most famously, she tells Trump that her teammate, Heidi, had no class.

"You were rude," The Donald tells her. "You are rude. I've seen it. . . . It was very repulsive to me."

Later, Omarosa and Heidi walk into the suite, having narrowly escaped hearing The Donald's dreaded "You're fired." Everyone rushes to hug Heidi, but no one embraces Omarosa. No one shakes her hand.

Her response?

For just a moment, she looks wounded. And then she rallies. Dons her armor.

"Whatever. I'm still here."

"What you see on the show is a gross misrepresentation of who I am," Manigault-Stallworth writes in an e-mail. "For instance they never show me smiling, it's just not consistent with the negative portrayal of me that they want to present. Last week they portrayed me as lazy and pretending to be hurt to get out of working, when in fact I had a concussion due to my serious injury on the set and spent nearly . . . 10 hours in the emergency room. It's all in the editing!"

Most of the women who complain about her on the show, she says, are now her very good friends. "This show is about ratings," and The Donald pitted her against the other women, she says, because he was "just being dramatic."

"Minorities have historically been portrayed negatively on reality TV," she continues. "These types of show thrive off of portrayals that tap into preconceived stereotypes about minorities (i.e. that we are lazy, dishonest and hostile). Reality Television's 'angry black women' portrayal strikes again! It's really unfortunate!"

Actually, we're secretly rooting for Omarosa, completely intrigued by her I-don't-play-that stance, the deliciousness of her evil ways, much as we were cheering on the Queen Witch Alexis Carrington back in the "Dynasty" days.

Too bad that in television's retro racial landscape, a witch is never just a witch when she comes wrapped in chocolate-brown skin.

© 2004 The Washington Post Company

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Somebody please pass me a tissue....
 

Why did I start crying at last night episode? Dang Sara cried her heart out poor girl :( I lost it when Tyra gave her a hug and said I'm so sorry. Mr Toocute was like what da hayle is wrong with you?

I think Camille was crying but tried to hide it. She wiped her eyes a few times. I wasn't surprised when she didn't particpate in the group hug. That would have been phoney since was never huggy before. What's up with her and the curtsy when she accepts her picture from Trya? She did that last week. Guess she thinks that's being humble :confused:

I want Mercedes to win.

I LOL when Yanna fell on her azz. Find the beat girl...find da beat.

Shandi was getting her groove on the dance floor and in the hummer limo. go girl.

I want Mercedes to win

April needs to stop treating this like a math problem on the GMAT.

I want Mercedes to win :D

So, I guess you want Mercedes to win? LOL

I must say that I was impressed with Miss Camille's attitude this week. Whether it was fake or not, she finally learned that she needs to keep her mouth shut. I noticed the whole curtsey thing too. It comes off a little strange to me. I think Shandi is going to take it home, she has really come out of her shell. I don't think April will win, because of what Tyra said about her just wanting to win for the sake of winning. I was rolling when old girl fell flat on her behind. Poor child, she just couldn't find the beat. I wanted her to go home. I agree with the person who said that Yoanna is jealous of Camille, I think she envies her confidence.

Can't wait to see next week.

She sounds like J-lo and Janet mixed together. I won't run out and purchase her music. Yeah, she should allow folks to download the ENTIRE CD.

Did anyone catch Tyra on 106 and Park yesterday? I caught the tail end but she was saying because of the Janet fiasco at the Super bowl they had to tone down the video. She also was talking of how the judges are real cutthroat during deliberations and she tries to soften them up some. If anyone else caught it, can you please elaborate on the whole vist with Tyra?

umm last night's previews showed Camille and Yoanna buddy buddy. . .did hell freeze over and no one tell me?:confused: :o :p

i saw that too. she's trying the old kill'em with kindess act...can't wait till that backfires and they send her butt home. tonights episode should be good.

Ebony and Ivory -- :mad: :o HATED IT!!! Camille is trying too hard.

Yoanna sprinkling salt on luggage. :o

Tyra's rap -- :o glad she pursued singing (never thought I would say that)

oh, look at camille, trying to get her groove on with the italian guy. chile please!

well. . .now we know what Camille said. . .she really should not have said A WORD!!! Just said oh she must have stood outside looking at the scenery or maybe she has the runs. :o :p

yeah camille should have kept her mouth shut! looks like she's going home tonight, just can't SHUT UP!