Re: ho hum...
 

Um.....obviously a lot of people if every chapter has over 200 members. Which they do.

I do have a question. I am up in the North so I do know about the south and how cut throat it is and all but I wonder, why didnt those two sororities last at Ole Miss? Did they have bad reps or no members? Just couldnt cut it? I dont know much about Ole Miss. Im learning more and more esp after reading this thread lol. I didnt realize it was like that, not that its bad, just much diff. I want to go visit their campus now it seems so gorgeous.

It wasn't that ADPi and ZTA couldn't make it all Ole Miss be/c they had been here for a very long time. However, they had a couple of recruitments where they didn't make quota and that hurt them. I think their smaller numbers back then scared PNMs away for whatever reason. However, it wasn't that they were bad or ugly. They were everything that an Ole Miss sorority girl is. They were beautiful, smart, poised, and all ladies. I think if the University would have helped ZTA out in some way, not sure what way though, ZTA they would have made it. Anyway, that's just my thoughts.

Erik and I agree to disagree many times.:D

But, I feel that He is coming from Strictly a Greek Social of the old NIC, PHC, and NHPC structures.

He has been around the horn working for TKE on many levels and is very knowledgeable on the ways of Social Greek lore.

Social Greeks are his fortee and I can see his point. I am a member of APO, but my time effort and money is with LXA.

The one thing I do agree with him on is the level of memberships in some Soroities that are so huge, my queston is, how can you know everyone:eek:

Granted, the size of the School can make a difference, but I for one would like to know My Brothers/Sisters, can you 200 member groups say that?

So while the Schools in the Southern States especially OLD Miss have huge groups, is it really for the best?

Is APII or ZTA, or anyother PHC any worse than the existing ones?

Is there any help among the Greek Organizations for the ones with low membership. Doesnt sound like it! Check The U Akron, Oh. Situation and feel good about having so many members who you cannot know!

in all fairness...
 

If the ladies at the University of Mississippi want chapters of
more than 200 girls, okay with me. But in reading previous posts
there were gripes about other groups not wanting to come on or
come back or succeeding...my point is simply that few applicants
emerge under the present conditions.
To the Phi Mu who got bent out of shape over the 200 members
"doing something that is right." Do not try to take a class in logic
or try to reason...200 members in nine sororities is hardly a good
example...why not 100 in eighteen sororities? But whatever turns your crank...you simply missed my point entirely.
And 33 girl, I made no mention of Beta Sigma Phi or the other ersatz groups who want to join the elitist sororities on college
campuses. Perhaps Tom Earp is right, times have changed. But
fraternities and sororities were originally elitist, and so were the
admissions policies. Yes, I do think if we would confer the PhD at
birth perhaps we could get on with livin.'
Finally, the crack about back-stabbing and other undesirable things during rush...was made by one of the girls from Ole Miss
whose chapter (presumably) suffered. I have not been through
rush in Mississippi, visited there or been an adviser there. But it
was a comment offered by a disappointed Ole Miss greek, not by
me.
And if Ole Miss wants 9 sororities with an over 200 membership,
fine. Have at it. And continue to preserve that wonderful tradition...if'n you're a mind to, y'hear?

Re: in all fairness...
 

Ole Miss is full of tradition which is one reason why trying to bring a new GLO to Ole Miss or trying to recharter one would be very difficult.

In one of thetalady's posts, she mentioned that there is no room for building any houses. For a GLO to come to Ole Miss and try to compete with the housed chapters, building a house is a necessity. To do otherwise would be the kiss of death.

You speak of civility, yet you criticize an institution of which you know nothing. Continue, and you will raise the ire of all Ole Miss Rebels on the boards. I have not responded on purpose, but your denigrating remarks about the intelligence level of those at Ole Miss prompted me to do so. I can't even begin to enumerate the contributions Ole Miss graduates have made in the fields of medicine, science, business, law, and education.

So, quit being so condenscending and preachy!

Ole Miss is one of the finest institutes around. Name me another school in the nation that grows and researches marijuana ...for medicinal purposes?

I went to the wrong school.

Re: in all fairness...
 

I am sure they are relieved to have your blessing

I think it's pretty clear to anyone that the fault doesn't lie with Ole Miss. I'm sure they'd love to have another sorority chapter -- or another five sorority chapters. It's the sororities themselves that don't want to take the chance that they might end up wasting millions of dollars on an Ole Miss colonization, and I'm not sure I blame them. The atmosphere itself is just not supportive to a recolonization there.

It's easy to say, "Hey, Ole Miss is screwing themselves by not taking another sorority," but that's obviously not the problem.

Yes, we are the ONLY place in the country where it's legal to grow marijuana.

I agree with Sugar & Spice. Financially, a new sorority would have to be willing to take a huge risk. I mean, they are going to need a house and some great alumnae around to support a new chapter. I also think it is too early for ADPi or ZTA to come back to Ole Miss.

If that's not a reason to be a proud Ole Miss Rebel, I don't know what is. Humboldt State, look out!

Re: in all fairness...
 

This Ole Miss Greek NEVER said she was disappointed by her Ole Miss experience... I was simply naming reasons why my GLO should not come back onto campus. Please, do not put words into my mouth. I love Ole Miss. It is God's Country to me and my family. I loved every single moment of my time there. Yes, there were times that were better than others. But, that's the way it is. Those experiences I had that weren't the absolute greatest were not caused by the Ole Miss Greek system in and of itself. It was a result, moreso, of Mississippi's "small-town, know-everyone-in-the-state" tradition.

I believe it is easy for those outside of the the Ole Miss system to sit and judge how things are. But, Ole Miss is a world of its own. It's a world that I would never change. Not one bit. I wouldn't even change our group leaving campus. Our group left because of numbers. We had 70 -- everyone else had 200 or so. Leaving was probably inevitable. But, that does not mean that I think the Greek system at Ole Miss needs changing? No, I am proud to have come from such a strong system... In every system, there are groups that have to leave and those that have great success. It's just the ebb and flow of Greek Life.

You seem to be so ready to jump down people's throats regarding Ole Miss... Why is there so much hostility? I don't think anyone on here has attacked you in the light that you have portrayed in your comments.

I heart TippieChick!

Wow, this all just makes me glad that I decided not to go to school at Ole Miss! They offered me a scholarship, and even had a nice frat boy call me to try to come, but I decided to come to Bama instead. Not that the greek system here is much better, lol.

Anyhow, I don't mean to rag on any Rebels. And while I'd LOVE to see Gamma Phi colonize at Ole Miss, I think we're really concentrating on S. Carolina and Texas A&M right now. Maybe 5 or 10 years from now, that would be awesome! We have a heard time recruting girls from Mississippi because we are not "known" there like all the others.

Tippiechick... he's been that way in every post I've seen him do on all of the different threads. Seriously, don't even worry about him.

I've read through this thread, and I'm curious-- are there any smaller GLO's on campus at Ole Miss who don't play the important role in Greek life as the strong nationals?

I'm reading this from the perspective of someone who went to a school that was extremely anti-Greek, both in administration and student body, and who was part of one of the professional GLO's that essentially get ignored as "false" sororities (sadly). I can't comprehend a new member class of more than eleven, nor a chapter of over 25!

If there are other professional/multicultural GLO's, how are they viewed on campus?

~ Mel.

Measi,

Thanks.

As for your question, I think OleMissGlitter or HottyToddy could better answer your questions. I have been back in TN for 5 years now. I think OleMissGlitter mentioned that a service glo was filling the niche left by ZTA. But, they will know better than I about the current situation.

To answer Measi, we have the following service/professional/honoray GLO's with a good presence at Ole Miss:

Omega Phi Alpha--new in 2003
http://www.olemiss.edu/orgs/opa/

Alpha Phi Omega

Kappa Kappa Psi
http://www.olemiss.edu/orgs/kkpsi/

Sigma Alpha Iota
http://www.olemiss.edu/orgs/sai/

I think we have Tau Beta Sigma, a friend of mine was a member.

Okay, Erik C is a senile old SOB just as I am!:)

He has been around and worked with so many different size Schools and Chapters as I have!

So, Ole Miss is a land unto it self, so be it!:D

Good for all of the Old Miss. Greeks. Your world a may be different than the real world whether it be in The North or The South! You have Utopia! God Bless You for The Garden of Eden Of Greek Life that you live in!:rolleyes:

Live in your little world and good for you!:cool:

How about the Schools around you or all over the Country?

What the F$%K
 

Those number's are crazy. Do you ladies know all the girls in your Sorority? I am in such an ah ya'll have no idea. My co-worker who is a Gamma Phi Beta is in an ah too. Best of luck pledging those girls.

It is very difficult to know everyone in your sorority at Ole Miss. In most cases everyone at least knows everyone's faces. Sometimes those members who aren't as involved don't know all of the members. For the ones who are involved--it's not as hard to know everyone. I wouldn't change it though. Whether I know them very well or not I still love that so many people are a part of the same organization.

With that being said..I think it would be great for another sorority to come on campus. But the others are already so large and so established that it would be difficult for another one to just jump right in and compete--even with the support of the whole campus.

I agree with Miss HottyToddy, you can know everyone if you are involved. I think that members who only do the bare minimums of what is required to be in a sorority are missing out on so much. Also, all of the sororities at Ole Miss are great about having sisterhood retreats and philanthropies where you can get to know all of your sisters. Some sororities have weekends filled with nothing but hanging out with your sisters and getting to know all of them.

It might seem like we have crazy numbers here at Ole Miss but in reality, it works and I'd say all 9 of the NPC chapters here are in top chapters with their organizations. Therefore, we must be doing something right.

sign off time....
 

yeah, Tom, I agree with you. We have tossed out our varied
opinions on Ole Miss. Time to move on to another topic, let the
whole thing go. Oh, ever see how the state, as a whole, ranks
as regards education? Read the Chronicle of Higher Education,
a contemporary assessment will emerge from time time. It might
dawn on folks that there are a lot of old codgers like us, and that
there are several thousand dormant chapters of all groups which
went under due to lack of advisement.
Because we may get roasted on this site does not necessarily mean we'd be drawn and quartered elsewhere. Most are not our
peers, have not walked in our mocassins, lived as long, or gotten
the experience. We mean well. Good luck, Ole Miss, and likely
you will thrive with your lot. Stay there...But should you venture
up north, you will still be greeted with fraternal courtesy.

Oh and by the way everyone!
This weekend is Chi Chapter of DDD's 100th anniversary. Their National President is in town and they have more than 600 DDDs in town for the celebration! It is a very big deal! CONGRATS LADIES!

Congrats to our Chi Chapter! That is awesome...

Ah E C, once again you deem to present youself in a True and Goodly manner!:)

Sensibility reigns and the world is right out side of Oford. I always thought those were soxs!:D Oh, maybe shoes:p

Each world has their own nitch to be in and I would not feel comforatable trying to figure out Whose on First!:eek:

Why I wonder if this Institution is so Fantastic or there only 9 NPC Groups there???:confused:

Some one of the Stuature that is represented on here can explain that if OLD MISS is so good, why is not everyone of the 26 (?) NPH Greek Organizations not there!

Is Old Missy that good?

When are you(Tom and Erik)going to realize that unless you go OleMiss you are really not able to comment on the system there? Just because a campus has all 26 NPCs -(and no campus in the country does, though a small few come close), doesn't mean anything.

Stop stirring the pot.

Ole Miss Good
 

Yes. Ole Miss is that good. :)

Now lets move on. :D

Ole Miss is better than good, it's FABULOUS!

GO REBELS!
GO OLE MISS!

Well, Good for Old Miss. Now while All 26 NPH Groups are not representated at Any School, for one such as Old Miss. Stature with kazillions of members in each House where no one knows all of the members, I am just asking The Question, what is wrong with this picture?:(

"YOU DO NOT KNOW ALL OF YOUR MEMBERS"? Then asking ignorantly, how is this a Tight Sister Hood?

Reminds me of Classes where everyone sat in a huge room and knew no one but went to that class and the Professor had no idea who in the hell they were except for a seating chart!:eek:

Live in Eden! Small as it is but seems so huge!:confused:

It's OLE Miss...with and E. Not OLD.

As of right now, its neither. The University of Mississippi shall now be known as Olé Miss, and the new mascot is a bull fighter. I thought that everyone would like to know.

Is the official drink of Olé Miss a version of hot chocolate? ;)

I am so confused. We don't have a bull fighter as a mascot! They do sell hot chocolate at the local coffee shops and on campus, but we don't have an official drink of the university....

I hope you are kidding, because I'm sure that was a joke!!! :D

Café Olé Miss, it shall be.;)

http://www.thedmonline.com/vnews/dis.../40beb3880b3a3

Article about Rush at Ole Miss...looks like they started to redo the Greek Life webpage as well!

It looks good but they need to make sure to have someone double check their links--many of the sorority ones had errors in the URLs.

Kappa doesn't have a site up anymore, not sure why, I'll tell my friend who is the adviser who works with me..

Pi Beta Phi

Chi Omega

Phi Mu

I'll let our Greek Life know that some of those links are wrong! :)

Thanks! I'm just thinking of the PNMs who might visit the Ole Miss Greek site and be discouraged they can't see all the sororities' websites. :)