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GJay39 08-17-2013 10:54 PM

I used Control F to find all the Ala. girls and it came up with 532. Seems like your number is pretty good. I never hand count if I can help it - I always get distracted and lose my place!! Technology can be a great help for people like me!

APhi4Ever 08-17-2013 11:08 PM

I did some break down of the Alpha Phi pledge class. Out of a total of 118 new members, here is what I got:

Alabama=22
Illinois=13
Georgia=10
Florida=9
Texas=8
Maryland=7
California=6
Indiana=6
Colorado=5
Ohio=5
Massachusetts=4
Tennessee=4
Virginia=3
Connecticut=3
Pennsylvania=3
New York=2
New Jersey=2
North Carolina=1
South Carolina=1
Wisconsin=1
Utah=1
Arizona=1
Kentucky=1
Oregon=1
Total=118

*About 1/5 of the new members are from Alabama
*About half of the new members are from Southern states

homeward*bound 08-18-2013 12:08 AM

Two of my Alabama rec girls went Gamma Phi! I am over the moon! :) Two others went Kappa. It looks like the other four withdrew or were released.

Congratulations to all the new members, chapters and parents who survived this week!

Gung-Ho-Chi-O 08-18-2013 04:08 AM

Congrats to all the moms & new pledges!! SewSheKnits...congrats to your DD...I have 5 cousins (all sisters) who were Kappas at Alabama back in the day...all the way from the early 80's to early 90's. She will have a ball :)

SewSheKnits 08-18-2013 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DubaiSis (Post 2231900)
I'm not done, but I have to quit for the day.
Here are some early details. The most Alabama-centric chapter took about 53% local girls. The least Alabama-centric chapter took an amazing 12% of Alabama girls.
So far the only state I haven't seen represented is Hawaii, but we have UK so that covers our island requirement :)

DubaiSis - My DD was born in Hawaii. Does that count? ;)

travelmom 08-18-2013 09:03 AM

My daughter is one of the IL Alpha Phis!!

TriDeltaC 08-18-2013 09:21 AM

congratulations to all of the new members! such an exciting time!

Missouri Ivy 08-18-2013 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travelmom (Post 2231958)
My daughter is one of the IL Alpha Phis!!

Congratulations to your daughter and one of our newest sisters! I hope she had a great time yesterday, the first of many!

Football Fan 08-18-2013 11:53 AM

Is there an official quota number determined at University of Alabama? Various numbers have been posted on this thread.

Titchou 08-18-2013 12:05 PM

I don't think they've posted that yet. I'll try to find out.

bamamom11 08-18-2013 12:37 PM

Quota was 117
AXO 113
ADPi 121
AGD 112
AOPi 119
Alpha Phi 118
ChiO 112
TriDelt 115
DG 123
DZ 117
G Phi 150
Theta 119
KD 106
KKG 118
Phi Mu 117
Pi Phi 116
Zeta 118

carnation 08-18-2013 12:49 PM

I am told that quota was 110 with the option to extend bids to 7 upperclassmen.

Pi Phi pledged 117, not 116.

AGDCanada11 08-18-2013 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carnation (Post 2231993)
I am told that quota was 110 with the option to extend bids to 7 upperclassmen.

Pi Phi pledged 117, not 116.

I was told 107 plus 10 Upperclassman ... Does anyone know for sure yet?

ladybug12 08-18-2013 01:08 PM

For sure 107 freshmen and 10 upperclass women. Some chapters did not optomize their upperclass quotas.

Titchou 08-18-2013 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carnation (Post 2231993)
I am told that quota was 110 with the option to extend bids to 7 upperclassmen.

Pi Phi pledged 117, not 116.

DG took 10 UC so that part can't be right. Have asked our consultant. Maybe she will awake from her sleep deprived coma sometime today!

GJay39 08-18-2013 01:14 PM

That makes 2,011 bids from a reported pnm pool of 2,113. That would be an amazing placement percentage if correct!

Titchou 08-18-2013 01:23 PM

not sure where you get that number. The UA press release on their web site says 1896 total bids.

lovespink88 08-18-2013 01:24 PM

Darn, bamamom11 beat me too the punch. I've been having lots of fun in Excel :)

Here's some other fun stats:


BIDS BY CHAPTER BY STATE
Alpha Chi Omega 113
Alabama 53
Georgia 10
Texas 8
Tennessee 6
North Carolina 5
Florida 4
Kentucky 4
Louisiana 4
Mississippi 3
Missouri 3
Maryland 2
Michigan 2
Illinois 2
Wisconsin 1
Nebraska 1
South Carolina 1
Arizona 1
Virginia 1
Kansas 1
California 1


Alpha Delta Pi 121
Alabama 34
Florida 12
Georgia 10
California 9
Tennessee 8
Illinois 6
Virginia 5
Pennsylvania 5
Texas 4
New York 3
North Carolina 3
Iowa 3
Colorado 2
Kansas 2
Mississippi 2
Maryland 2
Missouri 2
Michigan 2
U.K. 1
Connecticut 1
New Jersey 1
Indiana 1
Washington 1
Ohio 1
South Carolina 1


Alpha Gamma Delta 112
Alabama 55
Texas 8
Georgia 8
Tennessee 5
Illinois 4
Mississippi 3
Ohio 3
Kentucky 3
Virginia 3
North Carolina 3
California 2
Pennsylvania 2
Kansas 2
Oregon 2
Arkansas 1
New York 1
Indiana 1
Florida 1
Oklahoma 1
Wisconsin 1
Arizona 1
Missouri 1
Maryland 1


Alpha Omicron Pi 119
Alabama 44
Tennessee 11
Florida 10
Georgia 10
Texas 7
Illinois 6
North Carolina 4
Pennsylvania 3
New Jersey 3
Ohio 3
Virginia 3
California 3
Indiana 2
New York 2
Louisiana 1
Arkansas 1
Missouri 1
Kentucky 1
Connecticut 1
South Carolina 1
Michigan 1
Arizona 1


Alpha Phi 118
Alabama 22
Illinois 13
Georgia 10
Florida 9
Texas 8
Maryland 7
Indiana 6
California 6
Colorado 5
Ohio 5
Massachusetts 4
Pennsylvania 3
Connecticut 3
Virginia 3
Tennessee 3
New Jersey 2
New York 2
North Carolina 1
Oregon 1
Arizona 1
Wisconsin 1
Utah 1
Kentucky 1
South Carolina 1


Chi Omega 112
Alabama 42
Tennessee 16
Florida 8
Louisiana 7
Georgia 7
North Carolina 5
South Carolina 4
Kentucky 4
Texas 4
Virginia 3
Mississippi 3
Missouri 2
California 1
Wyoming 1
Rhode Island 1
Illinois 1
Massachusetts 1
Colorado 1
Oklahoma 1

Delta Delta Delta 115
Alabama 35
Georgia 15
Texas 13
Tennessee 10
Kentucky 7
Florida 7
Louisiana 5
Mississippi 4
North Carolina 4
Illinois 3
Oregon 2
Connecticut 2
Virginia 2
Colorado 1
Indiana 1
South Carolina 1
Maryland 1
Ohio 1
Missouri 1


Delta Gamma 123
Alabama 16
Florida 16
California 15
Texas 12
Georgia 7
South Carolina 5
New York 5
Tennessee 5
North Carolina 5
New Jersey 4
Maryland 4
Illinois 3
Indiana 3
Virginia 3
Connecticut 3
Pennsylvania 3
Kentucky 2
Kansas 2
Arkansas 1
Wisconsin 1
Massachusetts 1
Louisiana 1
Washington 1
Michigan 1
Vermont 1
Colorado 1
Ohio 1
Mississippi 1


Delta Zeta 117
Alabama 34
Florida 10
Texas 9
Georgia 9
New York 6
California 6
Illinois 5
Maryland 4
North Carolina 3
Connecticut 3
South Carolina 3
New Jersey 3
Ohio 3
Louisiana 3
Kentucky 2
Tennessee 2
Pennsylvania 2
Indiana 2
Massachusetts 2
Minnesota 1
West Virginia 1
Colorado 1
Virginia 1
Michigan 1
Mississippi 1


Gamma Phi Beta 150
Alabama 24
Florida 18
Georgia 17
California 16
Illinois 11
Pennsylvania 7
Texas 7
Maryland 7
Virginia 6
New Jersey 5
Massachusetts 5
North Carolina 4
Missouri 3
Connecticut 3
Delaware 2
New Hampshire 2
New York 2
Iowa 2
Indiana 1
Minnesota 1
Washington 1
Alaska 1
Arizona 1
Ohio 1
South Carolina 1
Michigan 1
Kansas 1


Kappa Alpha Theta 119
Alabama 20
California 13
Texas 13
Georgia 10
Florida 9
Tennessee 8
Illinois 6
Missouri 5
Maryland 5
New York 4
New Jersey 3
Connecticut 3
Virginia 3
Colorado 2
Kentucky 2
Ohio 2
Mississippi 2
Arkansas 1
Kansas 1
Arizona 1
Pennsylvania 1
Washington 1
Louisiana 1
Massachusetts 1
North Carolina 1
South Carolina 1


Kappa Delta 107
Alabama 38
North Carolina 10
Tennessee 8
Florida 7
Georgia 7
Texas 7
South Carolina 5
New York 4
Virginia 4
California 2
Illinois 2
Mississippi 2
Missouri 2
Louisiana 1
New Jersey 1
Colorado 1
Oklahoma 1
Connecticut 1
Michigan 1
Arkansas 1
Kentucky 1
Maryland 1


Kappa Kappa Gamma 118
Alabama 38
Georgia 14
Texas 11
Tennessee 8
Florida 6
Louisiana 6
California 6
Illinois 3
Virginia 3
Kentucky 3
Ohio 2
Connecticut 2
New Jersey 2
Minnesota 2
Missouri 2
North Carolina 2
Mississippi 2
Arkansas 1
Massachusetts 1
Maryland 1
District of Columbia 1
New York 1
Arizona 1


Phi Mu 117
Alabama 33
Georgia 18
Texas 14
Tennessee 10
California 6
Illinois 6
Florida 5
Pennsylvania 5
South Carolina 2
Louisiana 2
North Carolina 2
Kansas 2
Missouri 2
Oklahoma 1
Indiana 1
Massachusetts 1
U.K. 1
Connecticut 1
Ohio 1
West Virginia 1
Wisconsin 1
Virginia 1
Kentucky 1


Pi Beta Phi 116
Alabama 18
Illinois 14
Texas 13
California 8
Florida 8
Tennessee 5
Georgia 5
Virginia 5
Ohio 4
Indiana 4
Pennsylvania 3
Kansas 3
Maryland 3
New York 3
Connectitcut 2
Kentucky 2
Oklahoma 2
Arizona 2
New Jersey 2
New Hampshire 1
Arkansas 1
Massachusetts 1
Colorado 1
Oregon 1
Hawaii 1
West Virginia 1
Michigan 1
Missouri 1
South Carolina 1


Zeta Tau Alpha 118
Alabama 25
Georgia 13
Florida 10
Texas 8
Tennessee 7
California 7
Illinois 6
Pennsylvania 5
New York 4
Virginia 4
New Jersey 4
Ohio 3
Massachusetts 3
South Carolina 3
Missouri 3
Nevada 2
Maryland 2
North Carolina 1
Kentucky 1
Connecticut 1
Louisiana 1
New Hampshire 1
Indiana 1
Arizona 1
U.K. 1
Colorado 1


BIDS BY STATE
Alabama 531
Georgia 170
Texas 146
Florida 140
Tennessee 112
California 101
Illinois 91
North Carolina 53
Virginia 50
Maryland 40
Pennsylvania 39
New York 37
Kentucky 34
Louisiana 32
Ohio 30
New Jersey 30
South Carolina 30
Missouri 28
Connecticut 26
Mississippi 23
Indiana 23
Massachusetts 20
Colorado 16
Kansas 14
Arizona 10
Michigan 10
Arkansas 7
Oregon 6
Oklahoma 6
Wisconsin 5
Iowa 5
New Hampshire 4
Minnesota 4
Washington 4
West Virginia 3
U.K. 3
Delaware 2
Nevada 2
Vermont 1
District of Columbia 1
Utah 1
Alaska 1
Nebraska 1
Hawaii 1
Wyoming 1
Rhode Island 1

CITIES WITH MOST BIDS*
Mobile, AL 57
Birmingham, AL 48
Huntsville, AL 35
Montgomery, AL 32
Mountain Brook, AL 31
Atlanta, GA 28
Hoover, AL 28
Vestavia Hills, AL 27
Houston, TX 21
Madison, AL 20
*Not guaranteed to be right--this does not account for any typos that may have occurred within the bid list published online. I am simply pivoting this info. I double checked that all starts are correct, but I am NOT about to go through all cities.

Anyone else want to see the data a different way? I have it all in a pivot table and can pull it for you :)

ETA: I keep seeing 1896 as the final number, but my list is 1895. I either accidentally cut someone out or there's just a discrepancy here. Sorry either way :/

bamamom11 08-18-2013 01:32 PM

Quota was 107+10UC

IndianaSigKap 08-18-2013 01:39 PM

^^ Can upperclassmen be quota additions?

bamamom11 08-18-2013 01:40 PM

2113 registered, 32 no shows
Percent matched 1894/2081=91.01%

Hartofsec 08-18-2013 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lovespink88 (Post 2232001)
Darn, bamamom11 beat me too the punch. I've been having lots of fun in Excel :)

[. . .]

CITIES WITH MOST BIDS*
Mobile, AL 57
Birmingham, AL 48
Huntsville, AL 35
Montgomery, AL 32
Mountain Brook, AL 31
Atlanta, GA 28
Hoover, AL 28
Vestavia Hills, AL 27
Houston, TX 21
Madison, AL 20

Thanks for all the stats!

Mountain Brook, Vestavia, and Hoover are considered Birmingham -- sometimes girls from these areas are listed as Birmingham. Homewood also -- and there are several more communities in the B'ham area on the list.


It is my understanding as well that quota was 107 + 10 upperclassmen.

carnation 08-18-2013 01:51 PM

Yes, y'all are right--I got my 7s and 0s mixed up. But I still stand by 117 Pi Phis because that's what the regional site is telling me! Maybe that's your missing number, lovespink.

gphib_95 08-18-2013 02:01 PM

I noticed there are 44 states listed. Does anyone know how that compares to previous rushes?

TSteven 08-18-2013 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IndianaSigKap (Post 2232005)
^^ Can upperclassmen be quota additions?

To piggy back on this question, are upperclassmen only counted toward “upperclassmen” quota? Or can they also be counted toward the “general” quota? What happens if in theory, a chapter happened to want more “upperclassmen” than the upperclassmen quota and less freshman than the "general" quota? But still would reach the 117 mark.

For example, if the “general” quota is 107 and “upperclassmen” quota is 10, and a chapter only pledges 105 freshmen (by choice let’s say) can they pledge 12 upperclassmen (two being quota additions)? And as such, would the numbers be noted as 105 (quota) and 12 (upperclassmen)? Or would two from the “upperclassmen” pledges be counted toward the “general” quota number for the chapter? Thus 107 "general" quota and 10 "upperclassmen" quota.

DubaiSis 08-18-2013 02:21 PM

Well, I'm glad I spent hours and hours going through that horrendous list to get a workable spreadsheet for some comparisons, only to find myself beaten to the punch!
The only thing I'll add: The only states NOT represented on this list are:
ID 0
ME 0
MT 0
ND 0
NM 0
SD 0

OK, one more add. If my numbers are accurate, 2113 registered, 1896 pledged = 89.% pledge rate from the start. I think that is REMARKABLE. Some girls didn't make the cut because of grades, and others dropped out for their own reasons. That leaves a precious few girls who really ended up on the short end of the stick. And considering there were snaps (I'm seeing too many discrepancies of a few girls for that not to be true), hopefully some of of the girls who ended up homeless due to no fault of their own got picked up at the last minute.

gatordeltapgh 08-18-2013 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSteven (Post 2232012)
To piggy back on this question, are upperclassmen only counted toward “upperclassmen” quota? Or can they also be counted toward the “general” quota? What happens if in theory, a chapter happened to want more “upperclassmen” than the upperclassmen quota and less freshman than the "general" quota? But still would reach the 117 mark.

Upperclassmen can only count toward upper class quota becausethe RFM specalist manages them in a seperate upperclassmen pool. Yes, there an be quota additions for this secondary pool.

TSteven 08-18-2013 03:31 PM

Thanks.

lovespink88 08-18-2013 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DubaiSis (Post 2231864)
Oh, by the way, I'm running in instate/OOS numbers right now. It's a lot, so give me some time!
But in short, I think we can put to rest any worries about OOS girls not getting bids at ALL chapters at Bama.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DubaiSis (Post 2232020)
Well, I'm glad I spent hours and hours going through that horrendous list to get a workable spreadsheet for some comparisons, only to find myself beaten to the punch!
The only thing I'll add: The only states NOT represented on this list are:
ID 0
ME 0
MT 0
ND 0
NM 0
SD 0

OK, one more add. If my numbers are accurate, 2113 registered, 1896 pledged = 89.% pledge rate from the start. I think that is REMARKABLE. Some girls didn't make the cut because of grades, and others dropped out for their own reasons. That leaves a precious few girls who really ended up on the short end of the stick. And considering there were snaps (I'm seeing too many discrepancies of a few girls for that not to be true), hopefully some of of the girls who ended up homeless due to no fault of their own got picked up at the last minute.

EEK! I am so sorry, sister! I did not see your first post at all and since I'm super quick with Excel (I seriously do a LOT of work in it on a daily basis and have been for the last 3 years straight) I figured I would whip something up quick. It took me a half hour, let me know if you'd like some tricks (at my new job they have just been in awe of my Excel skills lol) But I did not mean to steal your thunder :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by carnation (Post 2232010)
Yes, y'all are right--I got my 7s and 0s mixed up. But I still stand by 117 Pi Phis because that's what the regional site is telling me! Maybe that's your missing number, lovespink.

If that is the case then that is where my missing number is.

However, I did repull and got the same 116 again. It was just a few manipulations of Excel cells so I doubt I made the same mistake twice. I feel so bad for whatever NM was left off that published list!! :(

dvs-dz 08-18-2013 04:22 PM

So happy - 2 of my rec girls joined Delta Zeta!

My list -

Alpha Gamma Delta - 1
Alpha Omicron Pi - 1
Delta Gamma - 1
Delta Zeta - 2
Gamma Phi Beta - 1 (my favorite)
Kappa Kappa Gamma- 1
Pi Beta Phi - 1

DubaiSis 08-18-2013 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lovespink88 (Post 2232059)
EEK! I am so sorry, sister! I did not see your first post at all and since I'm super quick with Excel (I seriously do a LOT of work in it on a daily basis and have been for the last 3 years straight) I figured I would whip something up quick. It took me a half hour, let me know if you'd like some tricks (at my new job they have just been in awe of my Excel skills lol) But I did not mean to steal your thunder :(

Don't sweat it. I just wish I'd had known because I'm only so-so with Excel. There were some things that I thought I could do, but couldn't figure out, so ended up doing it a lot more time consumingly than necessary.

AnchorAlumna 08-18-2013 04:30 PM

I would love for someone to email me their spreadsheet. I've been working one one for literally hours.
Darn hubbie keeps implying that my work is stupid!

Cheerio 08-18-2013 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DubaiSis (Post 2232020)
The only thing I'll add: The only states NOT represented on this list are:
ID 0
ME 0
MT 0
ND 0
NM 0
SD 0

Since we're all about statistics today: these states rarely fare well for Top Ten States/Contestants at Miss America.

However, The University of Alabama IS represented by Chandler Champion, ZTA and Miss Alabama in this year's televised September 15th pageant.

EmKD 08-18-2013 05:12 PM

I am a proud new member of Chi Omega!!! I am absolutely in love with my house and all 111 of my new sisters!

FSUZeta 08-18-2013 07:03 PM

Congratulations Em.

lovespink88 08-18-2013 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna (Post 2232064)
I would love for someone to email me their spreadsheet. I've been working one one for literally hours.
Darn hubbie keeps implying that my work is stupid!

PM me your email.

AXiDTrish 08-18-2013 10:32 PM

Random....My husband went to the Braves game tonight and apparently the entire Phi Mu chapter from Alabama took up 2 sections of the upper deck in the stadium.

nervousnellie 08-18-2013 11:48 PM

Rejected her bid
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BeachMom (Post 2231603)
looking forward Nervousnellie to your post on bid day.....

Sorry I didn't post on bid day, I was taking my DS to school! I bet you can already tell what is coming....She got her second choice, went to the brunch and rejected it (against our advice). She was told the night before by her first choice to go ahead and put both because she definitely got her first choice. My husband and I thought she should have given it more time and were not happy she went about it the way she did but she told us she felt trapped. She's young and has some growing up to do. I know she will be fine. I think she felt that was the only control she had it the situation. There is nothing else I can do but let her know I love her. I'm sad, but she is relieved. She may or may not try next year, but she said she'd rather be independent than join a group where she felt she didn't fit at all. She said the girls were lovely, but it wasn't where she wanted to be.

gammaphislobeta 08-18-2013 11:52 PM

Life after an Unsuccessful Alabama Rush Experience
 
it's not fair or true to scare these girls into accepting bids from a house they don't want just because they will never get the chance to be Greek at Alabama again. I know a good handful of young women (at least 10) who were not successful during Fall Rush 2012 but were very successful during informal Spring Rush. In addition to meeting girls in a more organic situation, there was no pressure and therefore they made better choices and no one regrets their decision. They are all truly happy in their sorority today. While this can't possibly work for everyone who had a less then stellar Fall Rush experience, there is still hope for the Greek life after an unsuccessful Fall Rush.

pinapple 08-19-2013 12:18 AM

It saddens me to read about girls that feel trapped by their bids. Recruitment is such a perplexing time. It occurred to me today while I was at dinner and heard someone complaining about a situation that I chalked up to our crazy city called Austin. Perception is such a strong emotion and such a strong motivator. Perception is reality.

At every campus across American you find chapters who have many girls on their lawns and for someone in the group (I would go as far to say this happens to every single chapter on every single competitive campus) it simply was not her first choice, but for many, it is their dream house. It makes it so hard to guide women into choices because one thing we don't have a visual on, is the heart.

What rocks one girl, can turn off another. Some girls want the familiarity of what they have always known, some want a different view point so they can grow into who they want to be. So actives can prepare all week long for these lovely women to come see what they have to offer but behind the fancy straws, the perfect cupcakes, and the coordinating outfits, is a chapter who at the end of the day, can't orchestrate a song that sings to every heart.


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