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DrPhil 07-09-2009 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmax (Post 1824508)
There are many districts where the teachers were pressured to push students through the system.

Yet you're still proud of your diploma. :)

madmax 07-09-2009 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1824527)
Yet you're still proud of your diploma. :)


It is irrelevant. Getting a job is what counts.

starang21 07-09-2009 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by madmax (Post 1824509)
I don't need stats.

because your mental capacity is too limited to process them?

KSig RC 07-09-2009 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1824524)
:)

I actually just read up on this Dr. Oyibo - I've gone from bored out of my mind to seriously impressed at the level of trolling exhibited by Tired Black Man. For such an obvious parody to reference such a nuanced, acute example of the blindness of the parties he's parodying brought a bitter, sardonic smile to my otherwise-caring face.

Besides this, the very concept of Oyibo's "theorem" is hysterical. Like, unfathomably funny - "The universe is not expanding, because anywhere it would expand to is a part of the universe, therefore no expansion is possible" . . . awesome.

DrPhil 07-09-2009 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC (Post 1824554)
I actually just read up on this Dr. Oyibo - I've gone from bored out of my mind to seriously impressed at the level of trolling exhibited by Tired Black Man. For such an obvious parody to reference such a nuanced, acute example of the blindness of the parties he's parodying brought a bitter, sardonic smile to my otherwise-caring face.

Besides this, the very concept of Oyibo's "theorem" is hysterical. Like, unfathomably funny - "The universe is not expanding, because anywhere it would expand to is a part of the universe, therefore no expansion is possible" . . . awesome.

:)

madmax/Tired Black Man + "Black people aren't so bad posts" = a waste of a GC race war

rhoyaltempest 07-09-2009 03:21 PM

And this is the thread that refuses to die.

DSTRen13 07-09-2009 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by madmax (Post 1824508)
The numbers are garbage anyway. There are many districts where the teachers were pressured to push students through the system.

Yeah, including my upper-middle class, majority white one.

KSUViolet06 07-09-2009 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 1824567)
And this is the thread that refuses to die.


I'm sorry, I haven't been paying attention to it.

You know, being so busy not taking care of my kids that madmax insists that I have.

It's just so hard with my 5th grade education. Sigh.


DrPhil 07-09-2009 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1824598)
I'm sorry, I haven't been paying attention to it.

You know, being so busy not taking care of my kids that madmax insists that I have.

It's just so hard with my 5th grade education. Sigh.

You type so well? :cool::eek::confused:

Isn't your kid a PNM by now?!! :rolleyes:

Will you be helicoptering in the near future?!!!?? :eek:

Keep us posted? :o

madmax 07-10-2009 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTRen13 (Post 1824595)
Yeah, including my upper-middle class, majority white one.


I doubt it. In the upper-middle class school districts the students are actually raised by their parents and the parents care about education. It is the low income districts that are trying to keep pace by doctoring the standardized test scores and pushing the kids through the system.


At the end of the day the kids from the upper class districts that are getting the jobs. That says it all.

Why do you think Obama gave the speech saying blacks need to do a better job on education?

minDyG 07-10-2009 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1824618)
You type so well? :cool::eek::confused:

Isn't your kid a PNM by now?!! :rolleyes:

Will you be helicoptering in the near future?!!!?? :eek:

Keep us posted? :o

Tom?

DrPhil 07-10-2009 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by minDyG (Post 1825027)
Tom?

: party :

Troll Buster 07-10-2009 11:41 PM

Alright trolls! This is a fking raid! Anybody move...I pump one in your ass!!!

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deepimpact2 07-11-2009 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by angry white man (Post 1825068)
I've been reading this thread and I'm really pissed off at what I've been reading. I'm tired of blacks pulling slavery out of their asses everytime a race issue comes up. It's not my fault blacks were put in slavery. I have a lot of black friends and sometimes I'm afraid to say some things around them thinking they might be offended. I'm sick and tired of always walking on pins and needles around black people. Tired Black Man, I disagree with you, we are not all savages. I got mugged by a black man, and I don't think all black people are thieves. Why is it o.k. for Tired Black Man to speak his mind, but when a white man speaks his mind, all hell breaks loose? Black guys rape white women too. Don't act like it was just white guys who raped black women. I'm not even a fan of race mixing, so I agree with Tired Black Man there. Blacks should only be with blacks and whites with whites. I've never called blacks anything but African American or just plain black. If a black ever felt offended at anything I said I would hope that he or she would tell me. I've never used the N word or referred to a black as a monkey or anything like that, but yet I'm still put into a "savage" category. I'm sick of it. Tired Black Man, you're an idiot. Get a life.

You're funny. Your diatribe is tiring and completely unoriginal. lmao. This tired line of thinking is so prevalent that for all we know you simply copied and pasted it here. That's just how often this kind of thing is said.

deepimpact2 07-11-2009 12:12 PM

I'm still puzzled as to why non blacks feel they are entitled to and should weigh in on whether certain words are or should be insulting to blacks.

I'm also puzzled as to why people on these message boards continue getting in to the same tired arguments with each other over race. Let's face it...there are a few things that are generally going to stay consistent:
1. whites are always going to gripe and complain about not being able to call us the "n" word even though some blacks use it as a slang term. for whatever reason they are really upset that they can't call us that word without facing repercussions. go figure.
2. whites are always going to feel that affirmative action is unfair and that it is reverse racism. no matter how many times people try to demonstrate the fact that AA is needed in the first place because of racism, whites will stubbornly refuse to acknowledge this. no matter how many times it is pointed out that blacks are not the only group to benefit from AA whites will refuse to acknowledge this. no matter how many times it is proven that because someone benefits from AA it does not mean they are under qualified, whites are going to refuse to acknowledge this. Give it up.
3. whites are going to continue to gripe that we get to celebrate black history month, completely ignoring the fact that every other month focuses on the accomplishments and historical milestones of whites and other non black races.
4. whites are going to continue to act as though blacks are overly sensitive about race relations.
5. blacks and whites are never going to see eye to eye on racial matters. in fact many whites are going to use Obama's presidency as "proof" that racism no longer exists. again, there's no need to argue. you aren't going to change their minds.

As controversial as my post may be, it needs to be said because there are over two hundred posts in this thread and most of them demonstrate what I am talking about. I used to think that one way of combating racism in society was dialogue between the races. Unfortunately I have learned that most whites in general are going to turn a deaf ear or try to turn things around to show" reverse" racism. To that end...there's just no point anymore.

KSigkid 07-11-2009 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2 (Post 1825118)
I'm still puzzled as to why non blacks feel they are entitled to and should weigh in on whether certain words are or should be insulting to blacks.

I'm also puzzled as to why people on these message boards continue getting in to the same tired arguments with each other over race. Let's face it...there are a few things that are generally going to stay consistent:
1. whites are always going to gripe and complain about not being able to call us the "n" word even though some blacks use it as a slang term. for whatever reason they are really upset that they can't call us that word without facing repercussions. go figure.
2. whites are always going to feel that affirmative action is unfair and that it is reverse racism. no matter how many times people try to demonstrate the fact that AA is needed in the first place because of racism, whites will stubbornly refuse to acknowledge this. no matter how many times it is pointed out that blacks are not the only group to benefit from AA whites will refuse to acknowledge this. no matter how many times it is proven that because someone benefits from AA it does not mean they are under qualified, whites are going to refuse to acknowledge this. Give it up.
3. whites are going to continue to gripe that we get to celebrate black history month, completely ignoring the fact that every other month focuses on the accomplishments and historical milestones of whites and other non black races.
4. whites are going to continue to act as though blacks are overly sensitive about race relations.
5. blacks and whites are never going to see eye to eye on racial matters. in fact many whites are going to use Obama's presidency as "proof" that racism no longer exists. again, there's no need to argue. you aren't going to change their minds.

As controversial as my post may be, it needs to be said because there are over two hundred posts in this thread and most of them demonstrate what I am talking about. I used to think that one way of combating racism in society was dialogue between the races. Unfortunately I have learned that most whites in general are going to turn a deaf ear or try to turn things around to show" reverse" racism. To that end...there's just no point anymore.

No offense, but your post isn't all that "controversial." It's been said many times in many ways by many people on GC.

Sometimes there are just some threads to be avoided...or some threads where you need a bottle of aspirin (or alcohol) to get through them.

minDyG 07-11-2009 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deepimpact2 (Post 1825118)
I'm still puzzled as to why non blacks feel they are entitled to and should weigh in on whether certain words are or should be insulting to blacks.

I'm also puzzled as to why people on these message boards continue getting in to the same tired arguments with each other over race. Let's face it...there are a few things that are generally going to stay consistent:
1. whites are always going to gripe and complain about not being able to call us the "n" word even though some blacks use it as a slang term. for whatever reason they are really upset that they can't call us that word without facing repercussions. go figure.
2. whites are always going to feel that affirmative action is unfair and that it is reverse racism. no matter how many times people try to demonstrate the fact that AA is needed in the first place because of racism, whites will stubbornly refuse to acknowledge this. no matter how many times it is pointed out that blacks are not the only group to benefit from AA whites will refuse to acknowledge this. no matter how many times it is proven that because someone benefits from AA it does not mean they are under qualified, whites are going to refuse to acknowledge this. Give it up.
3. whites are going to continue to gripe that we get to celebrate black history month, completely ignoring the fact that every other month focuses on the accomplishments and historical milestones of whites and other non black races.
4. whites are going to continue to act as though blacks are overly sensitive about race relations.
5. blacks and whites are never going to see eye to eye on racial matters. in fact many whites are going to use Obama's presidency as "proof" that racism no longer exists. again, there's no need to argue. you aren't going to change their minds.

As controversial as my post may be, it needs to be said because there are over two hundred posts in this thread and most of them demonstrate what I am talking about. I used to think that one way of combating racism in society was dialogue between the races. Unfortunately I have learned that most whites in general are going to turn a deaf ear or try to turn things around to show" reverse" racism. To that end...there's just no point anymore.

The fact that you are lumping all whites together in this post sort of undermines any gumption your points would have carried had you simply inserted the word "some" or even "most" if that is your opinion. Certainly not all whites fall into the categories you just described. There are definitely racist whites, just as there are some blacks who do fit the societal stereotypes that racists would apply to the population as a whole--but those few shouldn't be allowed to misrepresent the entire group.

KSUViolet06 07-11-2009 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deepimpact2 (Post 1825118)
I'm still puzzled as to why non blacks feel they are entitled to and should weigh in on whether certain words are or should be insulting to blacks.

I'm also puzzled as to why people on these message boards continue getting in to the same tired arguments with each other over race. Let's face it...there are a few things that are generally going to stay consistent:
1. whites are always going to gripe and complain about not being able to call us the "n" word even though some blacks use it as a slang term. for whatever reason they are really upset that they can't call us that word without facing repercussions. go figure.
2. whites are always going to feel that affirmative action is unfair and that it is reverse racism. no matter how many times people try to demonstrate the fact that AA is needed in the first place because of racism, whites will stubbornly refuse to acknowledge this. no matter how many times it is pointed out that blacks are not the only group to benefit from AA whites will refuse to acknowledge this. no matter how many times it is proven that because someone benefits from AA it does not mean they are under qualified, whites are going to refuse to acknowledge this. Give it up.
3. whites are going to continue to gripe that we get to celebrate black history month, completely ignoring the fact that every other month focuses on the accomplishments and historical milestones of whites and other non black races.
4. whites are going to continue to act as though blacks are overly sensitive about race relations.
5. blacks and whites are never going to see eye to eye on racial matters. in fact many whites are going to use Obama's presidency as "proof" that racism no longer exists. again, there's no need to argue. you aren't going to change their minds.

As controversial as my post may be, it needs to be said because there are over two hundred posts in this thread and most of them demonstrate what I am talking about. I used to think that one way of combating racism in society was dialogue between the races. Unfortunately I have learned that most whites in general are going to turn a deaf ear or try to turn things around to show" reverse" racism. To that end...there's just no point anymore.




Gasp.

OMG.

So much controversy here I can't take it.

deepimpact2 07-11-2009 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1825128)
No offense, but your post isn't all that "controversial." It's been said many times in many ways by many people on GC.

Sometimes there are just some threads to be avoided...or some threads where you need a bottle of aspirin (or alcohol) to get through them.

No offense? Why would that be offensive? When I say controversial, I mean in the sense that some of you like to blow my posts out of proportion even if it HAS been said numerous times already. But despite the fact that it has been said numerous times makes it puzzling that people still do it.

deepimpact2 07-11-2009 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by minDyG (Post 1825130)
The fact that you are lumping all whites together in this post sort of undermines any gumption your points would have carried had you simply inserted the word "some" or even "most" if that is your opinion. Certainly not all whites fall into the categories you just described. There are definitely racist whites, just as there are some blacks who do fit the societal stereotypes that racists would apply to the population as a whole--but those few shouldn't be allowed to misrepresent the entire group.

It goes without saying that not all whites fit into that category. I don't always feel the need to make sure that I type "some" or "most." If a white person reads this and doesn't fall into this category, then they know that. However, I rarely encounter whites who don't fall into these categories. That's why I don't bother getting into dialogues about it anymore. For instance, I'm not even concerned about what recently happened with the Republican party and Facebook. That stuff is boring and cliche. No need to get up in arms about it. That crap is played out. I chuckle now when I encounter whites and other non black individuals who like to call us monkeys and the "n" word and "colored." I encourage people to stop giving them attention when they do it. It is pretty much a given that most of the non black members of the Republican party who are in high positions feel that way about blacks. That one of them would be encouraging racist diatribe by some random, PWT is not surprising. Yawn.

Kevin 07-11-2009 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1825128)
..or some threads where you need a bottle of aspirin (or alcohol) to get through them.

Why do the two things have to be mutually exclusive?

deepimpact2 07-11-2009 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1825244)
:rolleyes:

Anywhooooooo, this is a troll thread now and she replied to a troll. LOL.

AND? My reply was also directed at certain other posters whose posts are equally racist. It is pretty obvious when someone has the moniker "angrywhiteman" and only has ONE post, that they are a troll. Duh. What exactly is your point? :rolleyes:

DrPhil 07-11-2009 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2 (Post 1825248)
AND? My reply was also directed at certain other posters whose posts are equally racist. It is pretty obvious when someone has the moniker "angrywhiteman" and only has ONE post, that they are a troll. Duh. What exactly is your point? :rolleyes:

And I think it's funny. You came in here all after the fact with long overstating-the-obvious posts.

Psi U MC Vito 07-11-2009 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1825247)
Why do the two things have to be mutually exclusive?

This from the RM mod? oh god. lol.

ANd in response to DeepImpact

I don't know what you are talking about facebook thing with the republican party. But you seem to be saying all conservatives are racist regardless of race.

KSigkid 07-12-2009 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2 (Post 1825245)
It is pretty much a given that most of the non black members of the Republican party who are in high positions feel that way about blacks. That one of them would be encouraging racist diatribe by some random, PWT is not surprising. Yawn.

It's actually not a given, not even close...and I can speak to that through actual experience (i.e. knowing people in the party, and being close to people who have worked for party leaders).

But, I guess it wouldn't be Greekchat if people weren't making broad, unfair statements about one of the political parties.

ETA: When you make statements like that, you're no better than the Rush Limbaugh's of the world who seek to demonize the other party. Saying that the Republican leadership is a bunch of racists is at best, unfair.

DrPhil 07-12-2009 01:03 PM

I was more baffled by her use of "PWT."

That reference annoys me, in general, but I thinks it's better for whites to use it than for nonwhites. It's another one of those sayings that should remain intraracial.

KSigkid 07-12-2009 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1825286)
I was more baffled by her use of "PWT."

That reference annoys me, in general, but I thinks it's better for whites to use it than for nonwhites. It's another one of those sayings that should remain intraracial.

Well yeah, there's that too. The comment as a whole is just baffling.

knight_shadow 07-12-2009 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1825250)
"Pretty white thang, repeat after me...saaaaay nahnahnahnah....."

R.I.P. MJ. :( PWT was my song.

This is the only good response that this thread has had in a while lol

DaemonSeid 07-12-2009 08:42 PM

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CutiePie2000 07-13-2009 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1825250)
"Pretty white thang, repeat after me...saaaaay nahnahnahnah....."

R.I.P. MJ. :( PWT was my song.

The song actually goes "PYT" - Pretty YOUNG thang.

PWT stands for Poor White Trash.

Senusret I 07-13-2009 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CutiePie2000 (Post 1825659)
The song actually goes "PYT" - Pretty YOUNG thang.

PWT stands for Poor White Trash.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1825286)
I was more baffled by her use of "PWT."

That reference annoys me, in general, but I thinks it's better for whites to use it than for nonwhites. It's another one of those sayings that should remain intraracial.

Context clues.... :)

DrPhil 07-13-2009 06:18 PM

That flew over her head.

(It shouldn't have, which makes me wonder about CutiePie2000.)

CutiePie2000 07-14-2009 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1825690)
That flew over her head.
(It shouldn't have, which makes me wonder about CutiePie2000.)

I ducked in during work - I didn't have time to read it that closely.

DrPhil 07-14-2009 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by CutiePie2000 (Post 1825799)
I ducked in during work - I didn't have time to read it that closely.

Close enough to think that someone thought Michael Jackson was singing about a "pretty white thang." ;)

deepimpact2 07-15-2009 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1825285)
It's actually not a given, not even close...and I can speak to that through actual experience (i.e. knowing people in the party, and being close to people who have worked for party leaders).

But, I guess it wouldn't be Greekchat if people weren't making broad, unfair statements about one of the political parties.

ETA: When you make statements like that, you're no better than the Rush Limbaugh's of the world who seek to demonize the other party. Saying that the Republican leadership is a bunch of racists is at best, unfair.

I seriously doubt you would recognize the racism anyway. :) You would be biased.

deepimpact2 07-15-2009 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito (Post 1825252)

I don't know what you are talking about facebook thing with the republican party. But you seem to be saying all conservatives are racist regardless of race.

Do some research and you will see what I referring to about Facebook and the Republican party.

And no, i don't think all conservatives are racist regardless of race. However, I have found that more than a few of the ones in leadership are racist. I would think that over the years with all the prominent Republicans who have been know for spouting racist sentiment or supporting racist legislation, people wouldn't still be questioning whether there is racism in the Republican party.

And it doesn't help that all of the white conservatives that I know are racist. I'm simply speaking from personal experience with respect to that.

KSigkid 07-15-2009 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2 (Post 1826150)
I seriously doubt you would recognize the racism anyway. :) You would be biased perhaps because you know them. Or because you share the same sentiments. Who knows?

I'd like to mark this as the first time in my life I've been called a racist...and by someone who doesn't even know me. Thanks a bunch.

deepimpact2 07-15-2009 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1826153)
I'd like to mark this as the first time in my life I've been called a racist...and by someone who doesn't even know me. Thanks a bunch.

I edited that statement because I realized it sounded that way. I meant the same Republican ideals. Sorry about that. I don't know enough about you to say you are racist, but from your comments on here I DO sense that you don't often recognize racism unless it is blatant.

KSig RC 07-15-2009 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2 (Post 1826150)
I seriously doubt you would recognize the racism anyway. :) You would be biased.

So . . . he wouldn't recognize racism because he's "biased" in some way to prevent that recognition?

You realize this can be flipped easily to state you're "recognizing" racism in areas where it isn't because you are biased in some way toward that recognition, right?

And the justification of "Using some of your posts here ... ", coming from someone who routinely argues that others misinterpret or misconstrue her posts, seems somewhat ironic. Just saying.

starang21 07-15-2009 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2 (Post 1826150)
You would be biased.

how so?


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