Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1768302)

Same reason why when they introduced Bush Sr/Jr today they did the same.

Originally Posted by Dionysus (Post 1768303)

Hey! Let's talk about something else.




:)

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00 (Post 1768306)

Yeah but being sworn in, don't they use the complete name? Baby Georgey didn't get sworn in as George W. Bush.

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1768301)

I had it in my signature when I first re-registered and it was discussed in threads. You all aren't observant. :p

Just be happy I stopped reading "TexasWASP" like I did when you first re-registered. :)

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1768309)

and.....?

So......?

Please don't start that "Hussein" bullshit again, it really just invalidates any argument you are about to have in that direction.

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1768289)

See...and that's where you go wrong...many people know better, stop watching TV and thinking that the media is feeding the masses that rubbish and the masses believe it. Talk to some people that have common sense and we will tell you that altho WE ARE ECSTATIC about Obama being president, he is HUMAN like everyone else and we don't expect him to fix everything in the next 4 years BUT we are HOPING and praying he is not mess up like Bush was.

i don't plan on closing my eyes and say...Oh it's Barack and he can get away with it...much of the opposite to that, he probably will be scrutinized more than any president ever was...but NOBODY expects him to be perfect.

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00 (Post 1768312)

Actually I'm not starting an argument. I want to know why they said H. instead of Hussein.

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00 (Post 1768312)

Actually I'm not starting an argument. I want to know why they said H. instead of Hussein.

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1768316)

Just don't ask.

Even IF you aren't looking to start an argument it's going to get you a sideways look.

I am trying to be nice and back off from saying 'xenophobe' at this point...let's walk away from this shall we?

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1768317)

He said his whole name: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9xLF...eature=related

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1768316)

Just don't ask.

Even IF you aren't looking to start an argument it's going to get you a sideways look.

I am trying to be nice and back off from saying 'xenophobe' at this point...let's walk away from this shall we?

Originally Posted by TexasWSP (Post 1768314)

I had a response to your last post but I am just going to let it go.

You did basically call me a cracker though. It's cool.

Look....I hope he doesn't make some of the same mistakes Bush did either. I think Bush's presidency will be looked upon different in the long run, but that's neither here nor there. Hey, I was speaking in poor taste. Shoot me. I don't think it was racist, but oh well. I know in my mind why the name was made up but that doesn't really matter if it truly offends people. Obviously it does.

If he can turn some of his ideas into realities I will be more than happy..specifically ones that relate to my line of work.

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00 (Post 1768319)

I have the right to ask.



Heh. I could have sworn he didn't.

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1768323)

You know what happened....possibly...everyone they introduced, they addressed by middle initial and if I remember correctly (I couldn't hear over all the screaming) they said Biden's entire name also.

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00 (Post 1768326)

Addressing someone and being sworn in are two different things. DrPhil posted the links to prove that he did say his middle name. But, had he not, I would have raised eyebrows. Not because I think he's a Muslim Terrorist, but because every other president sworn in has said their whole name.

But, tis not the issue because I was wrong.

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00 (Post 1768293)

And, this is a serious question, why did they refer to him as Barack H. Obama while being sworn in? Why leave out the middle name?

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1768327)

so why was you making it one when you could have checked?

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00 (Post 1768326)

But, tis not the issue because I was wrong.

Originally Posted by KSig RC (Post 1768329)

Same reason why don't they call him "George Walker Bush" . . . It's pretty common. Ulysses S. Grant, Lyndon B. Johnson, John F. Kennedy . . . that's kind of just the nomenclature.

PLUS HIS MIDDLE NAME IS HUSSEIN OMG WAS IT A KORAN?

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek (Post 1768243)

Hon, you're not insulting me at all, but your unnecessary color comments could be insulting to others. No, there's no need for me to go to other threads to find other comments you've made. Does associating black people with "malt liquor" ring a bell? How about "brother man?" A joke? omg! What kind of jokes are those? I'm Greek and Italian and I find it very offensive when I hear derogatory comments about Italians. I'm sure some people of color find your comments insulting when you make comments like the ones you've just made.

Go ahead and keep bringing up my tour guide and fast food posts. That's nothing new, because you bring it up everytime you have the chance, and that's o.k. Let's just keep it even. Based your interpretation of my "fast food" and "tour guide" posts, you can continue to think I'm on a high horse, stuck up or whatever you want to think about me. Just know that based on your "Black Jesus" "negro", "malt liquor", and other unnecessary comments you've posted about people of color, I'll continue to think you're a racist, redneck pig. mkay? :)

Originally Posted by KSig RC (Post 1768329)

Same reason why don't they call him "George Walker Bush" . . . It's pretty common. Ulysses S. Grant, Lyndon B. Johnson, John F. Kennedy . . . that's kind of just the nomenclature.

PLUS HIS MIDDLE NAME IS HUSSEIN OMG WAS IT A KORAN?

Originally Posted by TexasWSP (Post 1768334)

If you want me to be brutally honest...I do generally associate malt liquor with black people or maybe just the hood or something like that.

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00 (Post 1768335)

Well I know that. I meant during the SWEARING IN on the Bible. (Which I actually thought was pretty cool that they used Lincoln's.)

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00 (Post 1768335)

Religious question... not pertaining to Obama. If a non-Christian/Protestant person were to be elected, would they still swear on the Bible, to God? What if a Muslim president were elected? Or Jewish? Or Atheist? Wiccan?

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00 (Post 1768335)

Well I know that. I meant during the SWEARING IN on the Bible. (Which I actually thought was pretty cool that they used Lincoln's.)

Religious question... not pertaining to Obama. If a non-Christian/Protestant person were to be elected, would they still swear on the Bible, to God? What if a Muslim president were elected? Or Jewish? Or Atheist? Wiccan?

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1768320)

You and all these Obama enthusiasts who are too damn hype for your own good right now need to chill. Damn.

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1768323)

You know what happened....possibly...everyone they introduced, they addressed by middle initial and if I remember correctly (I couldn't hear over all the screaming) they said Biden's entire name also.

Originally Posted by Kevlar281 (Post 1768351)

I think it would be funny if a Jewish person just had them open it up to the Old Testament.

Originally Posted by TexasWSP (Post 1768334)

What are you talking about? "Brother man"? That rings no bells to be honest. Jokes about Italians and Greeks? You're gonna have to fill me in there too. Did I say guido or something?

I'm also not sure when I talked about black people and malt liquor. If you want me to be brutally honest...I do generally associate malt liquor with black people or maybe just the hood or something like that. Sorry......I just can't get over watching DoughBoy chugging 'em down in Boyz N The Hood. I'm sure us white folk have plenty of associations with common items. I have drank a 40 or two in my day..if that is even relevant. Probably not.

I'm just giving you a hard time. Come on. Those threads you started were funny. If you think I'm a racist. So be it.

Originally Posted by I.A.S.K. (Post 1768367)

Why? I don't wanna! LoL. [And it did take me a min. to figure out who you are. Now I want some crab alfredo.]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1768368)

sigh...leave it alone man...you are making it worse...

In the meantime, back to what we were discussing...something you may want to see.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28763030/

Originally Posted by TexasWSP (Post 1768375)

Sorry to ruin "I'm gonna play internet guidance counselor" time, but we actually just exchanged some friendly PMs and are just fine now.

You fail to realize that my post was lighthearted in nature ( I think you fail to see that often). I was just wondering what I said. I've said off color shit in the past......don't really care. Not going to deny it or anything. If you can call me a dumbass cracker, I think I can openly admit that I think "black people" when I conjure up images of Mad Dog 40 Oz Malt Liquor.

Good article by the way. I agree that we should give him a good amount of times to get things moving. He has inherited quite the pickle.

Originally Posted by TexasWSP (Post 1768379)

Cool man. I wasn't joking around or trying to amuse you. I said my post was lighthearted in nature. I was trying to make it come across to CG like I wasn't upset or anything. Next time I type a post directed towards you....or one that I feel needs your approval...I'll let you know.

I don't know if that has ever been done. It makes sense to me......having a newly elected President review any pending regulations set forth by a recently vacated administration.

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1768408)

Can't just overturn bills that have become law - but there are plenty of policies that are not a result of legislation (insert joke here) that Obama will now have leeway to change. As I understand it, though, there are bureaucratic hoops that must be jumped through, so any change will take some time. Sweet dreams, DS.

Originally Posted by TexasWSP (Post 1768375)

I think I can openly admit that I think "black people" when I conjure up images of Mad Dog 40 Oz Malt Liquor.

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1768371)

That would be a PERFECT lunch tomorrow! :D

But you aren't invited if you're gonna be Obama crazy. Be happy but not crazy. Meet you at noon. :p

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1768410)

Thank you...that's where I was trying to go with that.

I am trying to get some idea of what would have to be done for any new admin coming in to reverse some of the things that an old admin may have done that a new admin may deem as unfit, improper or injust for the country.

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1768342)

That was cool.



I can see a Jewish president before a Muslim president. I definitely can't see an Atheist or Wiccan president.

To answer your question, that may be based on two things:

Is swearing in on the Bible a written/required part of the process?

Is it the Bible as literature or the Bible as a religious document? What do they do in a court of law where the person is Muslim, etc. and there is swearing on the Bible?

Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1768425)

It may well be that the new President is looking to strengthen the executive branch even further.

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1768430)

How do you feel about that, in general?

Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1768431)

In general, I'd rather not have the executive branch too powerful; I think there's a good reason for the balance between the three branches, and I like the check and balance aspect to it. An executive branch that's overly powerful has the ability to push through personal agendas and the like.

I'd even feel that way if the executive branch was representing my own personal interests (low taxes, limited government, etc.). I just think you run into too many issues the closer you get to an all-powerful executive.