The thread title still applies because the NPHC is a part of the equation for many blacks who choose the NPC. :cool:

I think, in part, women just treat each other badly when we (other women) do things that the other does not like. i have a lot of older female relatives who act like there is something seriously wrong with me because at 18 I went to college instead of getting married and/or having babies.

It is my opinion that this behavior is not just a race thing, but more just human behavior.

Yes, so I assume you only mentioned "women" in the earlier part of your post because the thread is about NPC. The logic equally applies to men. :)

Let's be honest here folks... Some African American NPC members here on GC were lamenting about the absence of other African American women within their ranks and they are wondering why they experienced this issue?

Now we have a young lady here who grew up in a world and misses the point about the kind of historical ostracism endured by NUMEROUS African American women, especially after college graduation. These women have told me the problems they have encountered practically makes them cuckoo--especially when dealing with bigotry and racism...

Now, hey, none of the NPHC women care if Black woman joins a different organization. So what is it to us? We do get membership requests to join by women at the graduate level and when we background check them and determined they have joined a different organization, we have to deny them membership. At the undergraduate level, we are almost getting to the point to saying that if that is what homegirl wanted, then good luck!

But what the NPHC is talking about is "marketability"--answering the question about who's our market. Currently, the NPHC sororities' market generally are women of African descent and their causes and issues. For my Sorority, entrepreneurship/businesses is our programmatic focus. Since, Soror Johnson-Sirleaf the current President of Liberia is a member, that means we are global in our outreach programs.

The other NPHC sororities also have their global programs, especially in Africa--that is beyond money, food, books and clothes. It means members help build hospitals, schools and agriculture.

My question remains unanswered :rolleyes: Why do any of the NPHC Sororities continually have to justify our actions to non-members who really will never apply to membership? Aren't we just wasting resources?

It took me forever to find this article. I read it as a freshman in high school and decided right then and there i would never join a sorority. (haha)

Please keep in mind that this article is old, 2000 i believe and it takes place at a southern school. I like to think that this would not happen on most campuses.

Im not trying to insult any one (or group) by posting this article. I just wanted to contribute it to the discussion.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...,58980,00.html

the only plus of being a white greek org is the networking. other than that, why would you do it yourself? the cultural differences, ignorance, and just flat out isolation that is inevitable. i wouldn't do it.

as a black woman, and the only black woman, in my chapter, i have never thought that any statement about greek life was so ignorant and so wrong.

i have never experience the love and support that my sisters provide me from anyone expect my parents. you obviously know nothing about greek life, NonGreekOne.

and wtf, you can get networking from black groups too, so thats not really a plus.

You may not, and I'm sure most of the more older and mature graduate members of NPHC orgs may not, but we all know that attitudes are different in the undergraduate level.

My school probably has the most diverse IFC/NPC membership of any school, and yet my Black grand-big sister has had instances where she has been treated condescendingly by NPHC sorority members when they discover she belongs to an NPC sorority.

Some people need to stop living in this Utopian GC world where everyone accepts everyone and everyone gets along, because that is not the case in real life.

What black groups?

You attend a PWI, right? Do you still have Affirmative Action in your state? Because my state does not. So the numbers of African Americans matriculating thru the schools are dwindling--like 400 during Affirmative Action and 89 after abolishment of Affirmative Action. So when the numbers of African American women are small, or dayum near absent, the ability to seek qualified members on these campi are removed.

Undergraduates who are members of NPHC Sororities are bombarded with questions by their supervising graduate chapter and alumnae members to explain why little interest on their campi. Why would a nice African American college aged woman NOT want to be interested in XYZ NPHC sorority? We have scholarships, internships, specialized programs in their majors--WTH is wrong with you all? Apparently, that anger and frustration is transferred to non-members.

The reason why I am vehement is a because I was a former graduate advisor. That is how come I know what it takes to be a member at the undergraduate level. When a young lady chooses something else versus us, our talent base gets diffused. It means that the student population--specifically the GLO population is NOT talking to each other, which breed division and ignorance. Better guidance and advising with cultural competency by adults will further enrich the experiences of all GLOs on your campuses. That does not go on to say a girl who wants to be part of whatever other sorority cannot be. What that means in the best interests and long-term outlook, what are her true intentions? If she is joining an NPC sorority for "better networking"--because Caucasian people have better networks--then that is foul. Believe me, we in the NPHC are quite adept in detecting that lunacy. Same with us, if a non-Black girl wants to join an NPHC we are going to ask well how hard are you going to work in the face of bigotry and ignorance?

Maybe we have to do a mock Recruitment period to see if we like it? I don't know? Just throwing ideas out there...

How well has your GLO outreached to ANY NPHC Sorority?

No, Florida does not. I attend a "PWI" but make-up of the university is 58% Hispanic and African Americans constitute 13% of the student body, so the IFC/NPC membership is pretty diverse and membership in GLOs reflects the demographics of the school (FIU in case you were wondering).

Nothing is wrong with NPHC sororities. Perhaps some Black girls just feel more at home in an NPC org. And isn't that what fraternities and sororities are all about fundamentally- feeling at home where you are?

Well, the last time I spoke to one of your sisters of the Simga "Pretty" Pi chapter, she informed me that there were 10 active undergraduates and that 2 were seniors. This was around April. Being that the population of NPHC sororities at my school is very small, not much can be done.

But if you must know, we have a cordial relationship with AKAs and were pretty much the only IFC fraternity that wished them a happy founders day on January 15th. The Deltas and Zetas in Miami are a city-wide chapter, so they are barely seen on campus. No SGRhos.

So, you're right, its hard to do any outreach when numbers are low.

Lemme explain it to you this way our Graduate chapters oversee our undergraduate chapters. There is this symbiotic relationship. Yes, at some point, the undergraduate chapters are "independent" - free to choose their members (to some degree). I can ONLY speak on Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. So, without the Graduate chapter's "blessing" so to speak, the UG chapter does NOT exist... Period...

With that being said, how does an UG chapter explain to a 25+ years in the Sorority member that there are no members to be found at a school like yours--and that is because today, sorority sister's daughter wants to join another "type" of sorority--given the kinds of commitments we uphold?

Are you understanding my question?



I am unclear on what you are saying? Help me understand? Are you saying there is no purpose for a chapter of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. at your University? Are you saying that you have intimate knowledge of what it took to charter a chapter from my Sorority on your campus? You know there is a reason why a chapter was chartered there--and it usually is not because some member thought it would be cool because that is false...

I think the original comment about African Americans who join NPC sororities are being judge by other African American students wasn't specifically directed to members of NPHC members. I think it is more of the other students in that community who don't understand Greek life who pass judgment.

Now you have said like three times that you don't care if an African American woman joins NPC sorority, but obviously you do since you keep saying things like "WTH is wrong with you all". I am sure they understand how wonderful your GLO is but there was something about it that didn't seal the deal. It could the size of the organization or just the personalities of the members. Who knows what that thing is but I don't think it is meant for anyone to understand their decision but them.

My schools Greek system has tried numerous time to reach out to the one NPHC sorority on our campus. Panhellenic sent them two dozen roses to tell them good luck with recruitment, we have invited them to participate in our all Greek tailgate, We asked them to participate in Greek Week, We made sure to have representatives from the sororities at their campus wide events to show them support. I know my chapter made it a requirement to go to their probate because they are Greek just like us and we should all support each other in some form or fashion. BUT they didn't come to the tailgate and they didn't participate in Greek Week. So my question for you is how has your GLO outreached to any NPC sororities?

We also get membership requests from many black women before and after they rush (successfully and unsuccessfully) an NPC org. :cool:

Just as there are blacks who pursue a certain NPHC org because another NPHC org isn't on the yard--and they sometimes think they can transfer membership when the other org comes back--there are blacks who pursue non-NPHC orgs for the same reason.