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I got a couple packs in Poland like that. One side says "Smoking Kills" and the other says "Smoking Will Cause A Slow And Painful Death". I'll put up a link if anyone here wants to see it. |
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I would love to see a pic of that if you have one. |
I live in Illinois and I love this smoking ban - especially since I'm very sensitive to smoke. It's great to go to a restaurant or bar or somewhere like that and NOT leave reeking of smoke or choking on it even though I'm in the nonsmoking section. Going out is so much more pleasant. :)
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In Canada, cigarette packages have pictures on them, like diseased lungs, etc.
There has been a smoking ban in Ontario for a number of years now. As a smoker, I really don't have a problem with it. I know as a smoker it's a nasty, dagerous habit, and I'll admit that I don't have the strongest will power, so it hasn't been easy for me to quit. But from an economic standpoint, having a smoking ban DOES NOT seriously, negitivly affect businesses. The only time I saw a smoking ban cause a problem was when I was still at University. The University banned smoking it its bars before the town did and before the province did. Because you could still smoke in the bars off campus, people stoped going to the campus bars. It did have a negative impact on the campus bars and they did have to start making the bars all ages just draw people in. Once the smoking ban took affect in the whole town and the rpovince, business started to pick up again. |
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Here is a pic of the Impotence label. http://lurquer.com/cig/imp.html And here is a link to the other labels we have. http://lurquer.com/cig/ |
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The odd thing is, I'm a smoker...and I still think those packs are awesome. If I was in Canada it would be like a game for me. Kinda like a McDonald's happy meal..."Collect all 12!". I actually have a collection of cigarette packs. My friends bring me odd ones, regional and from other countries. Even for my non-smoking friends bring me them. It's pretty impressive... |
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I'm a smoker too, and honestly, I don't think those labels do anything to deter people. Smokers and non-smokers alike tend to think they are amusing. |
OK being my very first post I guess please don't flame me for what I am about to say.
I've read many intelligent posts on here, mostly made by jmagnus. Here's my deal, and I AM quoting someone here directly, others indirectly and I apologize as I can no longer remember who: "You're right to smoke ends where my right to health begins". Or something to that affect. And if I was ANYBODY else I'd agree. I have Multiple Sclerosis. I suffer from SEVERE vertigo. ANY kind of stimuli makes my vertigo, and thus my urge to purge, worse. What makes it better? Besides the stupid meds which make me sleepy? You guessed it cigarettes! So by anybody just being next to me, breathing, my own health gets worse. I am not arguing to smoke next to a child or a pregnant woman, just to be able to smoke in a public place where smoking is allowed. In Illinois there were plenty of smoke free establishments before the January 2008 law went into play. I didn't go to them. I'll NEVER forget at midnight I was at Hollywood Casino in Aurora (IL) and the staff took away all the ashtrays the entire place cheered. CHEERED. And now....there is no one there. I don't know where all the cheerleaders went but they apparently went elsewhere with their friends who DID (do) smoke. Anybody who thinks the Chicagoland business area is doing better since the ban went into effect is either more of an invalid than I am or never noticed the long lines to get into places like bars, casinos, etc. Chicago is a bar town. It's not like the other cities where the smoking ban (New York specifically since the weather is similar) has been in effect and has had negligible impact on business owners- specifically bars and casinos (i.e. riverboats). Despite the gasoline prices, people in the Chicagoland area are going to Indiana or Wisconsin to go to casinos {OK- slot machines are the ONLY thing I am able to do without getting sick- don't ask me why....I used to dance :( } In fact right now, there is a bill in the Illinois House proposing that businesses can buy a "smoking license", much like a liquor license. No other state has come up with such legislation. And businesses will be forced to buy this license just to get their customers back...and so they can pay the state of Illinois the same amount of money they were paying before. Genius, no? One of the moderators made the comment that any type of smoking ban was a good one. OK I get it. You want to breathe clean air. I'd like to leave the house and be around people. It's really hard for me but it's even harder to be so young and such an invalid. Can't we all find a middle line, like, somewhere???? Illinois has a total smoking ban with crazy rules about 15 feet from an entrance (I can't even WALK 15 feet), police STANDING on the side of the highway checking to make sure people have their seatbelts on (stay with me people), but NO helmet law requiring people driving at 60 mph plus on a bicycle with a motor on it??!! I am so lost....... And I hate to rain on everybody's parade, but you need the gene for lung cancer (any type of cancer actually). So second hand smoke can't necessarily cause lung cancer. That's where the tobacco companies get off saying cigs don't cause cancer (just making the point here not necessarily agreeing) because there ARE people who've smoke a bigillion years and died of other things than cancer (probably caused by cigs but as long as it's not **gasp {no pun intended} LUNG cancer, well then**. Nothing can cause lung cancer. Some things in life just happen. Like Multiple Sclerosis. Aye now I'm dizzy. I need a square. Sorry if there was bad grammer or if I was tangential, I DO have a brain disease ya'll :D. |
You don't get cancer if you don't have a "cancer" gene? Is that even true?
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If you talking about the BRCA genes because there is 1 and 2 forms, then depending on the specific mutations you have, yes, you can have cancer--specifically breast for the BRCA mutations. But there is sporadic Non-hodgkin's polyopsis colon cancer that the genes are affected, but it just happens. It is thought environmental factors--such as asbestos and agent orange--cause this kind of cancer. |
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Besides this, most states do indeed have helmet laws, and if Illinois doesn't, you can go ahead and lobby for it - however, it's really not the same. You can likely hold up seatbelt laws as a fine example of the "nanny state" in effect, and I won't argue - but there is a fundamental difference between seatbelt laws (which affect only the driver of the car) and public health requirements related to smoking indoors. It's really not even close to similar. Besides that - New York isn't a bar town??? Holy Christ. Quote:
Additionally, after 1994's Congressional hearing disaster and losing a couple hundred billion in lawsuits, even Big Tobacco openly admits cigarette smoke causes cancer. |
I would think Chicago is an awful lot like Minneapolis/St. Paul, what with being large midwestern cities on large bodies of water.
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