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AlphaFrog 09-19-2007 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by fantASTic (Post 1522598)
No, busy but not overstressed, and no.

You didn't have ANY sort of NM Ed meeting? At all? You just pledged one day and started going to chapter meetings, etc without any formal time set up for NM to learn about your sorority??

fantASTic 09-19-2007 02:32 PM

No, we had NM meetings, but there were, of course, actives there directing it. That is not against the hazing laws, anyways.

AlphaFrog 09-19-2007 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by fantASTic (Post 1522610)
No, we had NM meetings, but there were, of course, actives there directing it. That is not against the hazing laws, anyways.

Not ALL of the actives were required to attend. ALL NMs were required to attend. That sets the new members apart, and can therefore be classified as hazing.

You can take anything to ridiculosity...

33girl 09-19-2007 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by fantASTic (Post 1522610)
No, we had NM meetings, but there were, of course, actives there directing it. That is not against the hazing laws, anyways.

Did ALL the actives have to attend?

If not, it can be construed as hazing. The NMs were set apart from the actives as there was a special meeting that only they (and a few actives that volunteered) were required to attend.

Oh, and MysticCat, if you look like crap in the sorority's colors, that can cause you discomfort. Hazing.

AlphaFrog 09-19-2007 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1522611)
Not ALL of the actives were required to attend. ALL NMs were required to attend. That sets the new members apart, and can therefore be classified as hazing.

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1522613)
Did ALL the actives have to attend?

If not, it can be construed as hazing. The NMs were set apart from the actives as there was a special meeting that only they (and a few actives that volunteered) were required to attend.

Are you my sister or something???

cuteASAbug 09-19-2007 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1522613)
Oh, and MysticCat, if you look like crap in the sorority's colors, that can cause you discomfort. Hazing.

I had to wake up at 8am in order to go to initiation. This caused me great discomfort as I went to bed into the wee hours of the morning the night before. So going by this, our ritual and chapter advisors hazed me?

MysticCat 09-19-2007 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1522613)
Oh, and MysticCat, if you look like crap in the sorority's colors, that can cause you discomfort. Hazing.

Point very well taken. :D

SthrnZeta 09-19-2007 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1522613)
Oh, and MysticCat, if you look like crap in the sorority's colors, that can cause you discomfort. Hazing.

Quite true! :p I tend to wear the dark turquoises as opposed to the bright ones and thank God, I love the combo of turquoise and grey!

AlexMack 09-19-2007 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cuteASAbug (Post 1522616)
I had to wake up at 8am in order to go to initiation. This caused me great discomfort as I went to bed into the wee hours of the morning the night before. So going by this, our ritual and chapter advisors hazed me?

8am? Screw you! I can't say what time I had to get up but lets just say I had 20 minutes of sleep that night. (Not because of my active sisters, just because of the sleeping arrangements).

Oh yeah, the pledge pin. We were required to wear our pledge pin except for the three S's-Shower, Swimming, Sex. Probably sleep as well, I can't remember. Oh, and partying of course. But regular everyday stuff required it. HAZED! I WAS HAZED! We also couldn't initiate until our entire class got an 85 or better on the exam and we couldn't leave the room we took it in until we did so. Only one pledge sister had a problem and we helped her out quickly. I got a 99.5 (damn that omicron! Sorry AOII).

adpiucf 09-19-2007 07:55 PM

New member ed is not hazing. It is a requirement expected of ALL the members. It has a reasonable, constructive and educational purpose WHEN performed under the supervision (approval) of your nationals.

Our sorority isn't permitted to hold any kind of new member activity, including education meetings, without national approval. That approval covers the dates, locations, the schedule of activities and detailing what the activities are comprised of. This absolves the national group if the chapter screws up.

Separating an individual or a group of individuals from the rest, and requiring them to do something that is not expected of the rest of the members, and has neither reasonable nor constructive educational or service oriented intent, can be considered hazing.

Nationally approved new member education meetings and new education practices, are not hazing.

SigKapCoug 09-19-2007 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexMack (Post 1522627)
8am? Screw you! I can't say what time I had to get up but lets just say I had 20 minutes of sleep that night. (Not because of my active sisters, just because of the sleeping arrangements).

Oh yeah, the pledge pin. We were required to wear our pledge pin except for the three S's-Shower, Swimming, Sex. Probably sleep as well, I can't remember. Oh, and partying of course. But regular everyday stuff required it. HAZED! I WAS HAZED! We also couldn't initiate until our entire class got an 85 or better on the exam and we couldn't leave the room we took it in until we did so. Only one pledge sister had a problem and we helped her out quickly. I got a 99.5 (damn that omicron! Sorry AOII).

:D

Every time you post, I am proud to call you my sister...

Buttonz 09-19-2007 10:57 PM

No NM on my campus wore letters before initiation, NPC, IFC, or local...it was always awesome to see a group of girls walk by in letters, you knew they just all crossed.

SthrnZeta 09-20-2007 12:01 AM

OMG, SigKap, you were hazed!!! Perish the thought! I think it's awesome to see all the other girls you went through R with in letters around the same time too because we all knew what it meant. It just goes back to the point about campus climate...

twinkle555 09-20-2007 01:21 AM

AlexMack,
No hard feelings on the 'omicron'...apparently no ones heard of it. lol!!:p


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