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There's a big difference between making fun of a group, and hating that group. Comedians, talk show hosts, and shows like Saturday Night Live poke fun at various definable groups - be they political, sexual, racial, or religious - all the time, but they don't hate them.
As for racism, I looked it up in my trusty dictionary just to be sure. It has two definitions. 1. The notion that one's own ethnic stock is superior. 2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race. I'm going to stick my neck out and assume two things here: a - def. 1 applies to virtually no one on GC. b - def. 2 applies to virtually everyone on GC (whether they will admit it or not). If people parody a certain group, that can be taken with good humor or indignity. In all honesty, it's the indignity of a vocal few that tends to make me dislike a certain group more than any inherent quality of the group itself. As PM_Mama00 said, "We shouldn't have to live our lives walking on eggshells about everything." |
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who said they're racist? impossible. they have someone who's black vouching for them. :confused: |
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2. discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race scroll down on dictionary.com good humor should be taken by whom? the people offending or those who are being offended? if you don't particularly care about the feelings of those you're offending....then you'll never walk on eggshells. |
So I guess you are the final authority when it comes to deciding what is and isn't discriminatroy/abusive?
......because the way I read it the black guy that started the party originally didn't get any of that out of it. Its quite clear that he took it for what it was.....poking fun at a stereotype.........not hating/discriminating/being abusice towards another race. |
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Well, Starang21, on the other hand, how much do you have to care about people being deeply offended about something pretty stupid and silly?
Yep, these folks look like idiots. Especially if they have regard for black people's feelings (which you think they would if they really have black friends), they should have thought this party idea out better. But if you're going to concern yourself with the harmful effects of images of your group, wouldn't it make the most sense to address the stereotype, rather than people making fun of the stereotypes? (It doesn't anger me when people make fun of rednecks from Georgia, only when they seem to assume that everyone from Georgia is a redneck.) Do you imagine that the Aunt Jemima with the gun really thinks she's accurately representing anything? Or that the guys with bandanas and tilted caps think they're saying something about Barack Obama? Why get bent out of shape that it has something to do with you? |
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I just wanted to say that I'm probably not thinking enought about how I would feel as a member of a minority group. If I were the only woman in a company, and the guys had a party in which they made fun of Paris Hilton and dressed up, I would wonder what they thought about women generally.
I will say that sometime otherwise well-meaning folks do dumb stuff. These college kids may only know black people like themselves and are pretty racially unconscious, so making fun of these stereotypes doesn't seem to be a condemnation of the whole race. They only see it as a parody of things they see on You Tube. |
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But if you think about it, the addition a of a gun to Aunt Jemima "mammy" stereotype is kind of interesting. hum. . . |
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ETA: I think everyone here agrees that there was something wrong with the party and the pictures. At least I do. I would venture to guess that if they could go back now, they probably wouldn't do the theme. I think the number of white people who assume that most black people fit any of these stereotypes is pretty small, but maybe I'm too optimistic. |
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