Well consent or no consent there's no semen, latex, or lube and they didn't find DNA on other parts of her body that matched theirs.

So I'd like to know why that didn't show up on the girl?

-Rudey

You are calling me dense? Are you kidding me?

THE CLAIM IS BY THE DA AGAINST THESE KIDS.

Seriously you are mung. I can't believe how mung you are but you are damn mung.

-Rudey

That you know of. Just like you claim that this woman is lying, the media could be lying too.

Just because the DNA didn't match a player, doesn't mean that she wasn't raped by a friend of a player that was at the party.

Well that's why I'm asking. They said they didn't find any semen, latex, or lube residue. That's what I don't get.

-Rudey

No they wont.

Hey you know what, I think she is a dumb bitch crackhead stripper. I think she should rot in a gutter. She lied, tried to play the race card because it was a bunch of white guys (not trying to be racist, but its pretty evident), and she ruined or significantly changed the lives of a bunch of kids and one of the best lacrosse coaches in the country. She probobly is a prostitute. Just assuming. From watching the news they made it sound like her puss was beat up like a used catcher's mit....which only helped to add to her bullshit rape accusations.

What's the point of a bunch of people who have no idea what if any evidence will be presented at a trial that may or may not occur arguing about guilt/innocence/truth/lies on a message board?

I guess so at the end of the trial, one half can say NAH-NAH I was right, and the other half can continue to argue pointlessly about how the jury was stacked/paid off/etc, and it really should have gone the other way.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I find it kind of funny that the African American 75% of the board or whatever is backing the stripper claiming there could be still evidence to convict these white devils, whereas the white quarter is pointing out that there isn't any evidence. Whatever. I guess the divide still exists. Fine with me.

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The racial and class divide in this country still exists but that's obvious before this Duke case even came about.

I don't recall anyone in this thread saying anything about white devils. That must be a personal insecurity that you have. If people did mention white devils, those people are IDIOTS.

Have you ever thought that a large percentage of the people you OBSERVE backing the exotic dancer are backing her because of what they know about rape and sexual assault and NOT because she's a black woman who was allegedly victimized by a group of white men? This issue should really be about gender and how rape allegations are viewed, which is why there have been Taking Back the Night Rallies and gendered protests regarding this incident. It is interesting that some people who would NORMALLY be fighting for the rights of rape victims have suddenly started crying for hardfast evidence before voicing an opinion. When you add race to the mix, gender advocates suddenly sing a different tune.

Don't people normally discuss/debate social issue in real life and on these message boards?

The only problem I have is with idiots on both sides of the issue. However, people who can intelligently discuss what we DO know about the case should do so.

IF the guys didn't ejaculate (or Preejaculate) then there would not be any DNA. Is that correct? Also what if it was someone outside the team that attached her, she wouldn't know who was who. i am not saying what happened because I wasn't there. But I think that people tend not to even give someone a chance just because they are strippers or have had many partners, and that is not fair.

I agree -- although I would say that the guilt, innocence, or truthfulness of anybody involved in the incident being discussed here is an evidentiary rather than a social issue. Anybody who was not there or is not involved with the case is not qualified to draw conclusions with respect to said guilt, innocence, or truthfulness.

I see much of the discussion of this social issue is about what is embedded in the case and not the case itself.

As a female Duke alum I am very torn on this issue.

On the one hand I hope that no one I went to school with would ever do such a thing. On the other, I hope no woman would ever make something like this up.

I would like to mention that at Duke it is (or was when I was there) usual for fraternities and sports teams to hire strippers. I'm not sure if this was against any policies, but it certainly didn't seem that anyone was aware policies were being violated. Is this sort of thing less common at other schools?