Oglethorpe University is in Georgia... the South?

and I am glad that I am not. every male in my family was SAE...not gonna screw that one up.

yes Georgia is in the South. I have never heard of that school...atleast I don't think. I made a reference to OU and that is what he though I meant.

You know... Texas is barely even LIKE the rest of the South. Maybe that's why you've never heard of it?

This made me laugh. I miss The Rock. Carry on.

Heee. I would've turned your last post into a pop discussion on Britney's baby seatbelt buckling habits, and everyone would've been impressed with the upswing in rational thought.

Oh really? how is that? I have been all over the South and one of our vacation homes is in Sea Island, GA.....and I have never heard of Oglethorpe. Sorry?

If you are trying to say that I must not leave Texas much...you are wrong.

No, I was not suggesting that you are not a nationwide traveler. But it's interesting, because I would not really consider Oklahoma to even be IN the South... so if I was thinking about OUs in the South, Oglethorpe would perhaps come to mind before OU. But Texas culture is a different thing than Southern culture, IMO. They have similarities but they are NOT the same. Anyway, enough with the hijack.

Please give me a history lesson. Do you know when/where your fraternity was founded? Can you tell me the meaning behind Minerva? Please post your stats. I will give you a reason why you're not the best, for every reason you tell me you are.

You can boast your fraternity all you want. Fiji is the best in the world, to a Fiji. Same with SX, Sig Ep and Beta.

Again, some 19 year old sophomore who is spooging in his pants about his chapter, holds no water with me.

This is getting fun.

For one, I'm from GA, and would never think that OU is Oglethorpe University. However, I actually watch college football, which is probably why we immediately thought Oklahoma, and Sigmachiguy was confused.

Now as to our friend Sigmachiguy, I dont really wanna get into his signature or whatever, he can think what he would like to, and personal attacks don't really disturb me. However, from what I ascertain from his posts, it seems that his ideal greek life is that which:

-Has no standards for bidding. Why shouldnt everyone get a bid, after all, we're not interested in being a traditional fraternity, just a microcosm of the campus.

-Allows pledges into their brotherhood without being tested. I'm sorry, but my house isn't open to everyone. We've worked hard to build it to what it is, and so have those who've come before us. Why now would we want to let any random person be initiated, without making them overcome obstacles. I've never advocated striking a pledge, or making them drink, etc...However, I don't see how lining them up and questioning them about their responsibilities in front of one another is a bad thing. Maybe you're not one who cares for responsibility and accountability, but we do here.

-Ignores the role of common ideals, religion, etc...when considering membership. I am not one who buys into the idea of diversity for diversity's sake. I like meeting people from other places, I like seeing how other people from all walks of life live, but that is not the role of a fraternity. I live here, these are my best friends, and we all share essential goals, faith, and interests. Most people wouldnt choose a roommate who is completely different from them, why would I want to fill my fraternity with such.

That being said, if that is what greek life is to you, I'm glad you found something you enjoy. I'll personally will stick to the south.

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Well I think lifesaver refuted that one... besides I've been to Fraternity conferences that include 'top tier' chapters from way down south... guess what they had gay members...



Hmmm... intersting, in that you consider the use of hateful and derogatory language to not be indicative of beliefs... yet you believe that a guy professing his desire to 'bang chicks' is indicative of his heterosexuality.



Well last I checked the Bible condemns adultery and fornication just as much as it does homosexual acts, so one should condemn both equally as well... unless of course on is only using his faith as a shield to hide his prejudice behind

Oh as for hazing or the mistreatment of other not being covered in the Bible - ponder this:
Mattew 25:40 "...Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me."



I believed I covered your expression of hateful or prejudiced langauge as an indication of your true nature - afterall I'm only applying the same exacting standards you apply to others... and unfortunately they mark you as a bigot...

But if that's not enough - beating, lynching, or killing aren't the only ways to demonstrate your prejudices - just the most extreme. But as soon as you start using blanket derogatory statements, it's a pretty easy call to make that you do harbour prejudice beliefs.

233287239> Wow thats a lot of people that think that you aren't a gentleman... perhaps that might be an indication they're on to something huh?

AHAHAHAHA. So gross and so true.

I'd like to know what schools these top tier fraternities where from that claimed they had gay members. Not all southern greek life is the same. When people talk about traditional southern greek life, they're talking about Alabama, UGA, Ole Miss, Texas, Auburn, LSU, etc...They're not talking about FSU, UF, Miami, Georgia State, Duke...

Thats just it. They wont get a sermon because to be really honest with you, if someone that close to me said they were homosexual i wouldnt even discuss the topic much more. Now if they asked what i thought about it i would give them the sermon on the mount (haha joke there) but i would feel so uncomfortable about the situation because unlike how you perceive me to be i know tha twould be a big deal and wouldnt want to dwell on it. And as far as aggressiveness toward those who are doin the hetero version of adultry i would come at them with scripture but very few of those who participate in that are of christian belief. What good does it do to throw scripture at someone who is unreceptive to it. If the gay person wasnt claiming to be chrisitian and i knew they werent into church i wouldnt hit them with scripture. You adapt to the playing field your on. You dont wear spikes to play on astroturf...

March 9, 1856 Black Warrior River....Tuscaloosa Alabama

Would you like to know about Minerva's Highway, or Minerva's shield?

Oh yeah, you are a fag...and if you are older than 25, which I assume you are because you have been a member since 2001....you are an even greater fag.