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Rudey 03-14-2005 01:30 PM

It's also kinda funny how so many black GLO members sit quietly as this guy rants (this as opposed to when so many folks had quite a bit to say about Hoosier). When confronted over whether they think he is racist, said persons dodge the answer.

It shows great integrity on this man's part and on the part of his "frats" and "sorors".

-Rudey
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TheEpitome1920 03-14-2005 01:33 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
It's also kinda funny how so many black GLO members sit quietly as this guy rants (this as opposed to when so many folks had quite a bit to say about Hoosier). When confronted over whether they think he is racist, said persons dodge the answer.

It shows great integrity on this man's part and on the part of his "frats" and "sorors".

-Rudey
--If you don't like this post, please file a complaint with your local IDoNotCare Committee

I'm confused, why are we lumped together and supposed to offer a united front against him? He's a grown ass man. And if members of Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc. felt he was outta line I'm am VERY sure they would make their feelings known. I'm done.

Rudey 03-14-2005 01:35 PM

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Originally posted by TheEpitome1920
I'm confused, why are we lumped together and supposed to offer a united front against him? He's a grown ass man. And if members of Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc. felt he was outta line I'm am VERY sure they would make their feelings known. I'm done.
Who is this collective "We"?

I said "so many". Not all. But so many. I also said that "so many" had also made public remarks on GC about Hoosier but not about this guy.

You're "done"?

Well OK.

-Rudey

KSig RC 03-14-2005 01:43 PM

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Originally posted by TheEpitome1920
I'm confused, why are we lumped together and supposed to offer a united front against him? He's a grown ass man. And if members of Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc. felt he was outta line I'm am VERY sure they would make their feelings known. I'm done.

This reads as you implying here that he's not out of line, at least in the eyes of the Alpha forum - and your tone indicates, to me, at least a tacit agreement with them (not necessarily with him).

Hey, he can spout ignorant vitriol to his heart's desire - but it's a joke to infer that somehow this is no one's business but his own. I'm not here to impose a nominal "we" onto anyone else, but I'd be ashamed if this site's members just 'looked the other way' here - just as I would if no one spoke up when anyone else, white or black, starts jabbering about other races, ethnicities, or religions.

Just keeping it to the Alpha forum is absolutely not a solution - just as I can't run KKK propaganda in the Chit Chat forum, as long as I keep it localized.

ZTAngel 03-14-2005 01:45 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
It's also kinda funny how so many black GLO members sit quietly as this guy rants (this as opposed to when so many folks had quite a bit to say about Hoosier). When confronted over whether they think he is racist, said persons dodge the answer.

What's even funnier is that a few years ago, someone made a comment in a forum that I was moderating that wasn't even really all that racist or bigoted. A certain moderator who usually stays within his own forum and doesn't really converse outside of it just so happened to view this one post within my forum and threw a FIT over it. This moderator demanded that the post be deleted and basically said that myself and my co-moderator were also racist if we didn't remove the post. I find it hilarious that this said moderator allows this racist to make out-of-line comments within his forum and won't remove the comments (or admonish the poster) but will throw a hissy fit if someone says something that isn't really all that out of line (I'm sorry...don't remember the comment but I remember thinking it wasn't bad...and I think most GCers know I'd be the first to point out when someone says something that is racist) in a specific GLO forum that is rarely frequented by non-members. Hypocrisy is great, kids.

TheEpitome1920 03-14-2005 01:48 PM

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Originally posted by KSig RC
This reads as you implying here that he's not out of line, at least in the eyes of the Alpha forum - and your tone indicates, to me, at least a tacit agreement with them (not necessarily with him).

Hey, he can spout ignorant vitriol to his heart's desire - but it's a joke to infer that somehow this is no one's business but his own. I'm not here to impose a nominal "we" onto anyone else, but I'd be ashamed if this site's members just 'looked the other way' here - just as I would if no one spoke up when anyone else, white or black, starts jabbering about other races, ethnicities, or religions.

Just keeping it to the Alpha forum is absolutely not a solution - just as I can't run KKK propaganda in the Chit Chat forum, as long as I keep it localized.

Not at all. I don't particularly care for what he says. After reading some of his posts I realized that he's special and have decided to ignore further postings by him. I'm not going to argue with him or against him because that's not how I like to spend my time on GC. If people find him offensive and feel he should be removed from the this site then can't the moderators do something??

Rudey 03-14-2005 01:54 PM

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Originally posted by ZTAngel
What's even funnier is that a few years ago, someone made a comment in a forum that I was moderating that wasn't even really all that racist or bigoted. A certain moderator who usually stays within his own forum and doesn't really converse outside of it just so happened to view this one post within my forum and threw a FIT over it. This moderator demanded that the post be deleted and basically said that myself and my co-moderator were also racist if we didn't remove the post. I find it hilarious that this said moderator allows this racist to make out-of-line comments within his forum and won't remove the comments (or admonish the poster) but will throw a hissy fit if someone says something that isn't really all that out of line (I'm sorry...don't remember the comment but I remember thinking it wasn't bad...and I think most GCers know I'd be the first to point out when someone says something that is racist) in a specific GLO forum that is rarely frequented by non-members. Hypocrisy is great, kids.
Why don't people just use their heads? There are rules on Greekchat and those threads filled with hateful language are not erased. These moderators act as if the rules do not apply to them. I guess they think this is Kazo or whatever website that was and they can be as "hard" as they want.

And regarding this one individual, many BGLO members have stayed silent but they didn't stay silent for folks like Hoosier. When confronted on this, what do said individuals do? They come back with the "Well what do you expect us to do?"

-Rudey

Rudey 03-14-2005 01:56 PM

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Originally posted by TheEpitome1920
Not at all. I don't particularly care for what he says. After reading some of his posts I realized that he's special and have decided to ignore further postings by him. I'm not going to argue with him or against him because that's not how I like to spend my time on GC. If people find him offensive and feel he should be removed from the this site then can't the moderators do something??
Oh so he's "special" and you ignore him. That's it?

-Rudey

TheEpitome1920 03-14-2005 01:59 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
Oh so he's "special" and you ignore him. That's it?

-Rudey

Pretty much. This site is filled with special people. There's not enough time in the day to deal with all of them. I picked my battles. I use to get all riled up but then I realized...it's over the computer and I can log off.


Anddd...I am not the Black GLO representative. I'm just speaking for myself.

ZTAngel 03-14-2005 02:00 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
Why don't people just use their heads? There are rules on Greekchat and those threads filled with hateful language are not erased. These moderators act as if the rules do not apply to them. I guess they think this is Kazo or whatever website that was and they can be as "hard" as they want.

And regarding this one individual, many BGLO members have stayed silent but they didn't stay silent for folks like Hoosier. When confronted on this, what do said individuals do? They come back with the "Well what do you expect us to do?"

-Rudey

Maybe it's because our opinions don't matter. Especially mine because, after all, I am a "blondie-brat".

Rudey 03-14-2005 02:01 PM

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Originally posted by TheEpitome1920
Pretty much. This site is filled with special people. There's not enough time in the day to deal with all of them. I picked my battles. I use to get all riled up but then I realized...it's over the computer and I can log off.
That's fine.

Unlike that freak, I don't believe in some cult religion that says that an alien scientist named Yakub created the white man and I don't shame my fraternity like he has. Perhaps this whole discussion arises from that?

BTW, I don't want you to speak for all BGLO members - just you.

-Rudey
--Ten years from now I'll be the next great Black leader (a la Bill Clinton) and I can push this subject more I think.

Professor 03-14-2005 02:19 PM

Without being a member of my organization, I think it presents a problem for outsiders to understand the challenges members face. I have often stated that I don't agree with individual opinions of all my Brothers but I do encourage commentary. Sadly, the case at hand, that being gays in Alpha has caused much internal and external debate. Ultimatley, Alpha has direction from our national office. However, on GC the opinions expressed are the individul views of Brothers. Whatever your thoughts of their personal views are just that.

As a moderator of Alpha Avenue, I want folk to be welcomed. . . welcomed to know opinions may not always be accepted and welcomed to know comments are subject to debate and personal interruption.

Rudey 03-14-2005 02:23 PM

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Originally posted by Professor
Without being a member of my organization, I think it presents a problem for outsiders to understand the challenges members face. I have often stated that I don't agree with individual opinions of all my Brothers but I do encourage commentary. Sadly, the case at hand, that being gays in Alpha has caused much internal and external debate. Ultimatley, Alpha has direction from our national office. However, on GC the opinions expressed are the individul views of Brothers. Whatever your thoughts of their personal views are just that.

As a moderator of Alpha Avenue, I want folk to be welcomed. . . welcomed to know opinions may not always be accepted and welcomed to know comments are subject to debate and personal interruption.

Regardless of how you spin it, you are a Moderator on Greekchat.com and have to follow the rules of Greekchat.com

As an Alpha, you can do whatever you want for Alpha within the rules of Alpha, but on Greekchat.com you follow Greekchat.com rules and don't skirt them by using catch phrases like "encouraging commentary".

One would think that the rules of Greekchat.com are so basic that they would not conflict with Alpha Phi Alpha's rules. But if you feel that they do conflict, perhaps John, the site Administrator, needs to find a solution whereby someone else can make sure Greekchat.com rules are followed.

-Rudey

IowaStatePhiPsi 03-14-2005 02:31 PM

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My son is being groomed to be an ALPHAMAN and is being taught by his BLACK FATHER the importance of preserving his race and carrying on his family legacy by understanding that he MUST date only BLACK FEMALES and eventually MARRY A BLACKWOMAN! Thanks for catching my drift.
It would be ironic if his son came home from college with a white boyfriend instead...

kddani 03-14-2005 02:34 PM

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Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
It would be ironic if his son came home from college with a white boyfriend instead...
shame shame, you haven't read earlier posts in the thread:

Originally posted by kddani
A gay white republican Catholic who had formerly been married to a black woman.


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