(at bolded) So what are the core elements that separates Delta from Alpha Phi Omega if both are about brother/sisterhood and [public] service?

If you are refering to me (Naraht/Randy), I'm a guy. (And I apologized for not getting her point. I think on that we are now in agreement, DST doesn't have to worry about Title IX since they are a Social Sorority.)

Cool, I wish it had ended up on YouTube!

My apologies, for some reason I thought you were female. Mea culpa.

Well he hasn't responded in a while on the talk page for the NPHC article, if he does I'll drop you a line and *you* can argue with him. :)

No problem. It isn't like being in Alpha Phi Omega is a clue either way. :) OTOH, for NPHC greeks it definitely does. (Well, not counting MIAKA, but I think I'll wait on asking about MIAKA until I have no desire to live left)

Huh?

I have no idea since I know nothing about APO, except what I have read here,nor do I care to know. But one may be that you started as Boy Scouts and we didn't. :confused:

btw, came from a Scouting family--father an Eagle Scout, Order of the Arrow and troop leader, mother a GS troop leader, me from Brownie all the way through MAriner Scout--camp counselor and troop leader. So I am not knocking Scouting.

[hijack]Naraht, you remember the days we used to post on APO-L? I still read the online archives from time to time. Matter of fact, I have known you 12 years and only via the Internet. I gotta make a note to meet you in person sometime. I came a LONG way from APO-L, as you may remember. ;) But I digress.... [/hijack]

PS, I still think we should collaborate and write a REAL Alpha Phi Omega history book :)

LOL.

The difference that I see is that APO started as a focus on service through which brotherhood can be realized.

We started as a focus on sisterhood through which service and empowered communities can be realized.

I was a Brownie. The worst thing ever. It served as nothing but a reinforcement of gender stereotypes and expectations. Maybe that was just my Brownie leaders who sucked.

A very good question. I think there are certain things that members of both could agree on that are part of their history. For APO, its historical tie to Boy Scouts of America and for DST, its historical tie to the African American Community.

DST has community chapters (I think all of the NPHC do, but I'm not sure) that allow women to join after college. APO's alumni associations can't do that.

I don't know if the changes in membership intake process in the 1990s to limit pledging represents a significant difference or not.

(at Scouting) Good point. I only asked b/c I always figured if the true intent of our orgs was to serve in some capacity, there should be/have been a lot less inter-org disputes about trivial matters that had nothing to do with the reason why our respective orgs exist.

btw, THAT was, is, and has ALWAYS been my platform ever since I joined Greekchat. ;)

Good deal!! At least I get spared from the "ManScout" jokes from you *lol* (not that it had ever bothered me, but still.... :)

MiAKA = Men interest AKA.
http://www.fox11az.com/news/topstori....2b127edb.html

Correct.


Why would it?

I know what they are.

What do they have to do with anything?