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08-27-2009 12:42 AM |
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Originally Posted by itb
(Post 1839655)
To put it bluntly, if there wasn't a quota system, wouldn't all legacies be offered a bid, provided they were of appropriate moral character? After all, I think that the legacies' mother/sister/aunt/grandmother/(and so forth) would understand if little Suzie was of dubious moral character or legal status that she would NOT be offered a bid. The real problem is that the chapters do a POOR job of talking to the family and keeping them informed, when they OUGHT to be forthright. For example, if little Suzie was told BEFORE she would not be offered a legacy bid, I'm sure little Suzie would move on. But the chapter does not always work like that. In truth, they work in secret and keep it secretive. The chapter and the national HAVE to be in communication with their members on their legacies; it's when they are NOT that problems occur.
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To put it bluntly: no, all legacies would not be offered a bid if there wasn’t a quota system. Sometimes there are legacies who are perfectly nice and meet the membership criteria but do not have that elusive “fit” for which all chapters are looking. Further, most people don’t know if their daughter/niece/granddaughter is of “dubious moral character” and, as a recruitment advisor, I’m not going to be the one to slander someone to a family member even if that family member is a fellow alumna. Additionally, a chapter cannot have contact with a PNM or her family.
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Originally Posted by 33girl
(Post 1839688)
Once again I ask - would either of you enjoy being in a chapter with 400 members? Seriously?
Would you enjoy having a choice of only 3-4 groups at a campus of 25,000 because only the "strongest" groups have survived?
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Moreover, the strongest groups aren’t going to be willing to pledge every PNM. This leads to 3-4 “strong” groups and a large number of women being left out of Greek life.
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Originally Posted by TSteven
(Post 1839756)
So if I understand what everyone seems to be saying, the issue seems to be that some chapters have more legacies than they can bid. That there can be legacies that are a good fit and are desirable *and* the legacy herself wants to be a member. Yet due to quota etc., she may be released.
If that is the issue, then what about the following.
HQs consider changing their rules regarding Alumnae Initiation (gasp!) so that legacies may "seek" (don't know the correct terminology) membership in their legacy sorority. If ABC currently does not allow AI, they would *now* do so *if* the women was a legacy *and* she was a good fit. A sort of special consideration or exception as the case may be.
To be clear, AI would not be a guarantee at all. And may not be offered or allowed for "just anyone".
The way I envision this is that a chapter will still cut legacies and extend bids to those they want. However, for the legacy that is cut and still wants to an ABC, she would have the ability to seek membership as an alumnae. She would not be guaranteed it, but have the ability to seek it. Thus some NPC HQs would have to change their policy on AI.
Now it is true that the girl may not have benefited by having been an undergraduate member of ABC. But if she was "groomed" to be an ABC, and really wants it, and would be a good fit as an alum, then why allow it? The undergrad chapter is not compromised at all. For what it is worth, something similar seems to work well with NPHC sororities.
Finally, my intent is not to have a "ABC does not offer AI" discussion. But to have HQs think *Outside The Box*. To discuss ways that a legacy - who truly sees herself as an ABC - have a way to be an ABC and be a production member as well. Something along this line might be a partial solution to what will most likely continue to be the *more legacies than bids* issue.
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Allowing legacies to AI if they meet membership criteria would exacerbate the situation. You would potentially be creating even more legacies that could not be offered bids in the future. Not to mention that if the undergraduate chapter would have been “compromised” by her membership, I most likely do not want her as a sister through AI.
Trust me; chapters do not release PNMs, especially legacies, that they want as members. Chapters release PNMs that they would take as members and invite back the PNMs to whom they would like to offer bids.
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