Excellent analogy, CP.
When I bring work home or otherwise telecommute, the institutional standards dictate my other half isn't even allowed **in the room** while I'm working on the medical documentation.

I'm finding out more and more it really is OK for spouses to not tell each other everything, esp in cases like this. Makes it easier to accept the prviacy of GLOs.

Adrienne
:-)
(Why am I still awake????)

yes!

Probably the same, if not higher. While revealing the secrets of your GLO to a non-member can result in reprimand, suspension or expulsion, along with the resulting mistrust within the brotherhood/sisterhood, the unlawful revelation of military or government classified information can result in heavy fines, prison time and in times of war or an exceptionally grave breach of national security information, even death. (Robert Hanssen, the former FBI agent who sold out to the Russians just barely squeaked getting a death sentence - he made a deal with prosecutors and agreed to submit to an extensive debriefing to determine the extent of the damage, along with letting his wife keep his FBI pension.)

One case in point: about three years ago I was part of a survey team to redo floor plans for the Alternate Joint Communications Center, located inside Raven Rock Mountain on the Maryland/Pennsylvania state line. The AJCC (or Site 'R') as it is also known, is the relocation site for the Pentagon in the event of a nuclear war. (Reportedly, but for obvious reasons, never confirmed, the Vice President was supposedly sent there during the September 11 atacks.)

We got to survey practically every room in the place except for one, and that's because we didn't have TOP SECRET-RIDICULOUS clearance. (We only had a SECRET clearance.) In many locations we had to make arrangements ahead of time to allow the people working inside time to 'sanitize' the area and cover up any classified information laying about. Certain other areas were designated 'no lone zones' (anywhere there is anything dealing with nuclear command and control) and we had to be within sight of our escort at all times.

I am still bound by an agreement I signed when I was granted the clearance (and again when I left my job) that requires me to not disclose specific details about the facility, security measures and so forth.

(BTW, what I've mentioned about Site 'R' above is NOT classified. I am free to say this: the Alternate National Military Command Center (within Site 'R' - the primary's in the Pentagon) doesn't look anywhere like Hollywood's depiction of the war room in the movie WarGames. Just picture government issue blah. :) )

Just out of curiosity...was it a guy named Brother John that had this South American wife that tells everyone they're going to hell for wearing pants, listening to rock and roll, being in GLOs, etc? If so he comes to my school too. They're fun to argue with.

lol yep.. that's him. i thought that guy only went to the school i transferred from.. then i heard he also went to another nearby college campus.. and when i transferred I saw him here too.. and I also learned on GC he makes his way around the country :P

LOL that's so weird, I thought maybe he only went to mine, until you posted that. They're hilarious! I'm a Christian, but that guy was over the top. One of the days he was on campus this semester, I talked/argued with him more than anyone there. It got to the point where I was yelling at him because he wasn't listening to me, and his little wifey told me I was "evil, an abonination to God, a sinner" and asked me to leave. It was so funny. For days after that random people saw me around campus and were like, "hey, you were the girl that argued with the preachers all day!" LOL :D

HO, Ho, Ho, Tis The Season to be Jolly!

But The Season Brings out Fruit Cakes Gallor!

Dont like Fruit Cakes as the Nuts get in between My Teeth and Gums!

Man, does Wally, my Dentist ove this time of year!

Also have a customer at the Shop who is now my resident Physco Dr!. She is retired, but loves me, so will give advice frreeeeee, especially after I talk about some on GC!:D She thinks it is Great!:cool:

Now, Houston, I have a problem, DINNER! What to fix!

Shrimp sounds so good, but is a one time meal!

Have to cook for the rest of the week! Ah, Gooy Buns, will mix up a batch, maybe Chopped Sirloin With Cheese in the middle for later in the Week!:D

Maybe I am getting burned out by the Crainal Rectoids on site or just getting fried by OTW talking about nice weather in Aloha land,

Or ZEKE, who is one of the Best and always happy with the N Lady, or no cream in my coffeee that I so not drink! Beer is King!

Am I becoming a degenerate in a maudalin time once again?

Do I try to Give EC Shit for looking for him for 30 + years?

Is this disjointed?

My Christmas Present to me was a electric nail gun! Dont know what I will do with it, but got one!

Look out false GCers, I am armed!:D

i don't get it, how are you not going to be initiated, but you have letters at the bottom of your page?

I know for a fact Gamma Phi Beta has a rule that says you cannot forbid a new member/pledge/associate from wearing or using letters. To the best of my knowledge, most NPC sororities also have this rule. I personally never wore letters before initiation, but I did have them in my GC signature. I'm sure it's different for the NPHC.

Starang21, In Chi Omega, we can wear letters before we are initiated, it is just the crest we are not allowed to wear until after initiation :) Just thought that I would clear it up!

Pi Phi's new members can only wear the words "Pi Beta Phi"; they can't use the Greek letters or the crest until after initiation. There was a thread on this awhile back but I have no clue how to find that one!

ahh, thanks for clearing that up.

I remember the thread carnation mentioned, but your guess is as good as mine as to what the thread was called.

Alpha Gamma Delta new members are allowed and often encouraged to wear their letters prior to Initiation. The only thing they are not allowed to wear is the Badge.

As Geeky Penguin said earlier, this applies to many [but not all] NPC organizations [as carnation pointed out with her GLO].

In my SAI chapter(I say MY chapter because I'm not sure what other chapters do, or if this is a national rule), you are not allowed to wear ANYTHING that says SAI(spelled out OR just the letters, or the crest, not anything), don't think we're allowed to carry keychains or anything, until initiation.

Personally, I agree with this policy 100%. Because
I know most GLOs if they have such a policy, can wear letters spelled out, or can wear anything but not the crest, etc. I understand not wearing the crest, because you don't know what the stuff stands for. Well...then why should you be allowed to wear letters? You don't know what they stand for either. I know the Tau Beta Sigma chapter here has the same policy. I mean..I'm sorry...if you don't know what the stuff stands for, you shouldn't be allowed to wear it yet. I know that wearing them shows pride, etc, but also, when you have to wait until initiation to wear letters, it means more (IMO) to be able to wear them.

Thoughts, anyone????

I was told it was hazing if my NME was to say "Kathleen, no wearing letters until November 1st." We were "strongly encouraged" to wait, but we couldn't be ordered to. Our chapter is very sensitive to hazing issues because we are the only NPC and there are big hazing problems on campus. I can't think of a single girl in my pledge class who did wear them, but we could have, if we chose to.