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Rain Man 11-27-2002 12:11 PM

My turn
 
Oh my goodness

I was voted GC's Most Controversial of 2000 and I haven't posted anything on this topic. I must be getting soft.

OK, here's my spiel.

- Black men should be exempt from paying FICA if as of the year they were born our life expectancy did not exceed 65.

- Drugs should be decriminalized (this was done in China AND Japan and the drug rate dropped dramatically. BUT the reason it won't be is because IMHO drugs help drive the economy.

- Pornography helps drive the Internet economy (and was one of the few survivors of the dot-com bust of 2000).

- America is not designed so that every citizen can succeed. America is designed to create "winners and losers", ie for every corporate go-getter, someone "gotta make the donuts" and flip the burgers.

Welfare should be redesigned into more empowering tools (college tuition, down payments on housing, etc.).

Skin color should not imply or assume cultural loyalty. Case in point: Clarence Thomas.

Baby boomers, you ain't all that. Stop badmouthing us Gen Xers, especially since we are the byproducts of the low moral and social values you originally promoted and held in high esteem. You fed it, we ate it (like we had a choice).

There are no big words, only small vocabularies.

G. Gordon Liddy, shut the bump up.

G. Gordon Liddy, shut the bump up. Just in case he just now tuned into this message board.

It is MUCH harder to meet a good mate in 2002 than is was in 1972 or 1962.

BET should be banished from the airwaves (or at least until it has a circa 1990 airtime lineup).

People confuse a relationship with God with religion. (the former is DEscriptive, the latter is PREscriptive).

SUVs should be outlawed because they are nothing more than oversized gas-guzzling egomobiles.

America is a very mean spirited and unforgiving country when it comes to crime, punishment, law, and justice.

And lastly, for now, nerdy "nice guys" should get first pick on the fine, good-looking women.

Dionysus 11-27-2002 12:30 PM

FICA?

12dn94dst 11-27-2002 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dionysus
FICA?
Federal Insurance Contributions Act...other wise known as Social Security

Rain Man 11-27-2002 01:26 PM

FICA
 
Quote:

Originally posted by 12dn94dst

Federal Insurance Contributions Act...other wise known as Social Security

Otherwise known by the US Government as "F[ornicate] You"

BTW, FICA also includes payments for Medicare.

I got more views, but I'll do 'em a little later

CrimsonTide4 11-27-2002 01:42 PM

DOCTOR's OFFICES make appointments and do not stick to them. :mad: :mad: :mad: Nor do they care that you sit in the waiting room with every pregnant woman in Charlotte and fall asleep. Nor do they bother to call you to see why you left before being seen. :mad: :mad:

Rain Man 11-27-2002 03:11 PM

Greek Issues (WARNING: The gloves are coming off!)
 
OK, here are the Greek issues:

For all those oldheads and traditionalists, you may want to leave now.

Here is what I believe:

Greeks should stop brooding and boasting what their founders or other brother/sister did 80-90 years ago and focus more on what THEY are doing here and NOW!

The NPHC should be disbanded and the orgs should join NIC or NPC. As it is, I see more divisiveness, arrogance, and disunity than unity and harmony.

The NPHC should stop calling themselves "The Divine Nine". I will NEVER refer to the NPHC as such.

Any Greek caught resorting to physical violence on a perp should be charged with 1st degree assault and their chapter charter revoked.

Greeks should lower their profile if they want to get good quality members (that means no stepping/party-walking, no decorative 'nalia, no signs or calls). Just plain t-shirts and jackets with the letters and community service activities. Prospectives IMHO are MUCH more likely to join for the right reasons.

There should be a book, course, or seminar for prospectives on Black Greek life: what it is and isn't, terminology, what it's all about, and that highly revered "D" word. A Black Greek "From Here to Fraternity" if you will. Lawrence Ross, I think you are on to something.

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY,

The hazing/pledging issues discussed recently will not have any real meaning or effect until one of the NPHC orgs goes bankrupt and folds. I have been told by more than a few Greeks that it will occur by the year 2010. While I do not wish or hope that will be the case for any org, if that is what it will take before the NPHC will know that the victims' parents, the universities, and the legal system mean business, so be it.

BTW, I am NOT anti-NPHC, I am anti-nonsense and foolishness, and I have seen WAY too much of both in my college and post-graduate years.

ChaosDST 11-27-2002 04:13 PM

@@Rainman: I find your radical thoughts interesting and I wanted to add a couple kind of in response to yours...

1. Hazing/pledging will always be a problem as long as it is a problem for non-NPHC orgs and for non-GLO orgs, as well.

I don't exactly understand why GLOs are expected to completely eradicate the problem of hazing/pledging ourselves when hazing/pledging exists in other realms of AmeriKKKan society. Once we address this hypocricy, people will see some consistency. As of right now, law makers are saying that hazing/pledging is illegal, but allowing sports teams and military institutions (under the guise of "military training" to learn how to protect our KKKountry) to behave as such. Doesn't make much sense to me and people will continue to haze/pledge (under different titles to make themselves think they're not doing it) if they see that it's still accepted SOMETIMES.

2. As for members being charged with 1st degree assault, that would be up to the person assaulted. I certainly don't think that charter revoking is a realistic option. If Joe assaults a perp, why should his chapter's charter get revoked? Throw Joe in jail, but unless his chapter had a meeting and plotted the thing out, leave the rest of the chapter out of it.

But, I respect you for speaking your mind on such controversial issues.

miss priss 11-27-2002 11:26 PM

Re: Re: radical?...maybe.....a few ideas
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ChaosDST
[B]I don't think that EVERY black man wants a white woman...but an overwhelming majority would probably let a white woman &&*&&^&*^&** (no disrespect to white women unless you let black men use you to &&*&&^&*^&**)

Exactly what I meant...I just didn't want to take it there :)
I also don't think GLO members have any special issues with trust. Most of us didn't get into this for friends and we can seperate organizational affiliations from friendships.

I dunno about this one...maybe I should say that some GLO members have been in an experience where they mistrusted someone on those basis...(?)

Despite what the media tells us, I don't think that ALL light skinned women think they're prettier than dark skinned women. As a light skinned woman (I hate speaking from personal experience b/c I know I'm not the norm) I spend a lot of my time explaining (particularly to black men) how lighter skin doesn't equal prettier. We already have a seperation between the races...let's not perpetuate seperation within the race.

Interesting....but unfortunately it is portrayed in the media as such. Although, I don't believe in #7, I am glad you responded. There is such a myth in the AmeriKKKan community that a Black woman's color is equated to her beauty. I think that this issue is deeper than this because it all goes back to the notion that being of lighter skin or darn near white or white makes you superior. This stigma has been generated in the AmeriKKKan culture since the concept of house Ni**a versus field Ni**a (mentality).

ChaosDST 11-27-2002 11:39 PM

Re: Re: Re: radical?...maybe.....a few ideas
 
Quote:

Originally posted by miss priss
Interesting....but unfortunately it is portrayed in the media as such. Although, I don't believe in #7, I am glad you responded. There is such a myth in the AmeriKKKan community that a Black woman's color is equated to her beauty. I think that this issue is deeper than this because it all goes back to the notion that being of lighter skin or darn near white or white makes you superior. This stigma has been generated in the AmeriKKKan culture since the concept of house Ni**a versus field Ni**a (mentality). [/B]
I see your points, but initially you weren't referring to what the MEDIA portrays. You said LIGHTSKINNED black women think they are prettier than darker shaded black women. That's putting the emphasis on the women themselves and not on the portrayals by the media.

So, to that I disagree. Or, I disagree with such a generalization...I find it more appropriate to say that society has it so that some lighter black women think they are prettier than darker black women simply because of the shade of their skin.

miss priss 11-28-2002 12:31 AM

You are right... I didn't say media. This statement IS a generalization...meant to be radical...this is the basis of this thread ...right? But, I understand that you mean well...
It's okay to agree to disagree amicably..:)

P.S. I like your play on the word AmeriKKKa...very befitting!

ChaosDST 11-28-2002 12:38 AM

uh...ok.....

i was just making sure i interpreted the generalization correctly....

Quote:

Originally posted by miss priss
You are right... I didn't say media. This statement IS a generalization...meant to be radical...this is the basis of this thread ...right? But, I understand that you mean well...
It's okay to agree to disagree amicably..:)

P.S. I like your play on the word AmeriKKKa...very befitting!


finesister007 11-28-2002 05:18 PM

I believe:

that the progress that blacks made before the civil rights movement is attributable to our desire to improve our lives ourself and not rely on others. we did not do it because we were backed by the republicans (party of lincoln) or the democrats. we backed ourselves.

People have choices in their life. They may not be the most ideal choices, but one would hope the person would select the best option of the choices available. With that said believe it or not but we DO have control over how we live our lives, who we marry etc. Believe me you have choices and will be judged by God for those choices. A person will not be able to offer the excuse at the pearly gates that they had not control, didn't know anything about it or it was someone else's fault.

Finally, with the upcoming holiday season, i believe that it should be against the law to make and distribute fruit cake;)

Dionysus 11-28-2002 11:42 PM

Asians, Hispanic, and especially black women should leave those BLOND do's alone!

Dionysus 03-21-2003 09:31 AM

TTT (if you don't mind DST mods)

Confucius 03-24-2003 06:39 PM

This is an interesting topic...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by dsmmi12

5. I believe Gay activists using the song "We shall overcome" and other Civil Rights remniscant slogans/songs is insulting. (and trust me I am not a homophobic...I just dont feel it is the same struggle)

That burns me up:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:


I DON'T think that it is ok for a black man to date a white woman or outside of his race...

but I think it is great when black women do:p It has to do with the idea that we as black women are so undesirable that our own men don't want us. So, a black woman dating a white or non-black man proves that not only is this idea wrong;) ;) , but we can have any man we desire and that we are desirable.


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