I don't think I can stand to hear Sigma Chi mentioned one more time.. geez...

And I heard somewhere that Sigma Phi is the oldest active fraternity right now?

No it's the Kappa alpha Society. The five oldest in order are KA Society, Sigma Phi, Delta Phi, Alpha Delta Phi and Psi Upsilon. Maybe you heard Sigma Phi was the oldest national org because they are the first to have a chapter at another school.

sam, everytime you post you degrade another organization. you are not representing your org. well at all. just stop it!

I knew I was leaving someone out in my list of pre-Sigma Chi fraternities above, but my Saturday brain just couldn't think who it was. Thanks.

For the record:

Alpha Delta Phi Fraternity (1832): 26 active chapters and 3 affiliates (colonies) (Alpha Delta Phi Society, the co-ed society that split from the fraternity in 1992, has 4 active chapters and one affiliate.)

For the record, it should be noted that Chi Phi sometimes claims a founding date of 1824, prior to KA Society. As described by the Wiki: "The Chi Phi (ΧΦ) Fraternity is an American college social fraternity that was established as the result of three separate organizations that each were known as Chi Phi. The oldest active organization that took part in the union was originally founded in 1824 at Princeton." Per Chi Phi history, the Princeton society was founded in 1824, went dormant in 1830 and was resurrected by a nephew of one of the members in 1854. This group didn't last long, but managed to start another chapter (at Franklin and Marshall) before it died out, which in turn started a third chapter. By my count, Chi Phi currently has 59 active chapter and colonies.

*Because I received an angry private message, I would just like to state for the record that this paragraph...

... is not true, or how I truly feel about these organizations. I have friends in both, and they are both amazing. This was made up simply to prove a point. ASAs clearly live up to great ideals and values, and obviously TPA isn't killing members will their ritual. If they were, I don't think they would exist. Sorry if anyone was confused by this...

I think that's it.

That would make sense. Sigma Phi creating a chapter at Hamilton was actually the cause of Alpha Delta Phi being founded.

I bet this SAM knows how to do a fraternity!!

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Which, I think, is a good illustration of why people should be very careful in what they post about other orgs. Even if you're basing your statements on what happens at your campus, saying "XYZ org is _______" is usually an easy way to upset members of that org.

When in doubt, keep it out (of your post).

You are on quite a roll, 33girl!

Unless, of course, you actually use "XYZ" (which perhaps ASTalumna06 should have done instead of using real names, even in a "don't do this" example).

33girl is currently full of win.

Yes, which I completely understand. I thought it was clear that I made it up, but oh well. Live and learn. I think it's the inordinate number of "special" people on Greekchat lately... They're throwing things off. And making me so angry I can't think straight.

:p

It was clear to me. Some folks just get too lazy to read.

Sometimes it is hard to tell online when somebody is being tongue in cheek. I did think she was pretty clear though.