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I know it's bad to speak ill of the dead, but I keep coming back to this: His (late) mother KNEW he struggled with all kinds of mental issues, yet she kept an array of weaponry in the house, complete with rounds of ammunition. One of those weapons was a military-type assault rifle..
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That Bushmaster is NOT a 'military-type assault rifle'. By definition an assault rifle, which is military type, is capable of full automatic fire. A machine gun. I don't know if they are legal in CT or not, but are in my part of the country, Oklahoma and Texas. The Bushmaster LOOKS like an assault rifle, but uses the same direct gas impingement or gas piston system that any other semi-automatic rifle has used for the last 70+ years.
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Did she never think that might not have been a good idea?
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Apparently not. You would think that she would have at least had them locked up with a known violent person in the home.
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Something else--he knew which weapon to use. The pistols were (I believe) unfired.
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When you are out to kill children is there a wrong choice? Does it matter? I don't know what his choices were, but anything will work on children, when unopposed, because killing effectiveness is all about bullet placement and/or multiple shots. The morning of the shooting in CT someone in China attacked a school and stabbed 22 children. He obviously didn't have a clue what he was doing if his intention was to kill. The knife should be inserted at a point one inch behind and a half inch down from the ear canal. Attacks to the throat, heart, kidney, and femoral artery are all effective as well depending on what the angle of approach is. For that matter a baseball bat is effective on small children. Let us not for get about the biggest mass murder in the US, other than the attacks on 9-11 and the Oklahoma City bombing, when 87 people were burned alive at a nightclub in The Bronx in 1990. The killer used a 5 gallon can of gasoline. I wonder how many kids he could have killed using gas?
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All the dead were riddled with large bullets from the assault rifle.
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I have chosen not to read the details of the killings nor watch the news about it so I do not know how accurate the term 'riddled' would be. I don't believe that 3 shots qualifies as 'riddled', but people like you probably refer to it as a massacre as well. Cops killed a meth producer a few miles from by house and shot him 5 times and I don't believe that 'riddled' was ever used. We already covered your inaccurate and emotional use of the term 'assault rifle', but be aware that the Bushmaster's most common caliber is 5.56mm or .223 inches. The Glock and SIG mention on the news could not have been smaller than 9mm which is .355 inches. The most common weight for a .223 bullet is 55gr though 63gr is common as well. The smallest non-exotic 9mm slug I have seen is 90gr with the 115-124 gr being the most common and the 147gr sub-sonic used in suppressed firearms. Basically your comments are completely inaccurate. This would be due to a lack of knowledge on your part or outright deception.
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And guns like these render "secure schools" ineffective. He shot his way into the building.
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I have never seen a 'secure school'. Putting up a sign doesn't make it secure. A military base is 'secure'. An airport gate area is 'secure'. Even those can be compromised.
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Some of the dead had as many as 11 bullet wounds; all had an least three Little children, most of them six, so young they still had their baby teeth. Good God--what have we come to?
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I have no idea, but this isn't the first time and it won't be the last. The first one that I remember was August 1, 1966 when Charles Whitman killed 13 and wounded 32 at UT Austin. That incident precipitated the formation of SWAT teams around the US.
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And--I'm sorry--some jackass this morning said if the teachers there were armed there would have been fewer deaths. Some days I feel like I'm in an alternative universe.
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That wasn't me, but earth to ostrich, pull your head out of the sand. At least that person has mentioned a proven effective way to prevent future occurrances. As examples I give you the assistant principal in Pearl, MS. Unfortunately he was not allowed to carry his .45 auto into the school. He had to go out to the parking lot to retrieve it from his car while the shooter was able to kill more. He held the shooter at gunpoint for police before they were able to kill more high schoolers and before the killer got to the junior high to kill more there. I also suggest that we take a lesson from Israel. They arm teachers and flight personel on El Al airways. The Israelis have been under attack by Arabs for decades and decided to defend against the attacks. There have been no mass shootings at schools in Israel that I am aware of and El Al has never been hijacked. In Texas if a teacher has a concealed carry permit they can get permission from the principal to carry at school. In fact, in October my son ran into his former high school english teacher at his concealed carry refresher class. There have been no mass shootings at schools in Texas since that law passed. I know of no successful mass shootings at gun shows or in gun stores either. Gee, I wonder why? Could it have something to do with these sickos picking on only defenseless people.
So rather than dismissing a proven effective response, why don't you offer an answer? If it is gun control, exactly what gun law would prevent someone from murdering a gun owner and using the gun to commit crime? In fact if police were the only ones with guns the easiest way to get one is kill a cop and take his. Quit complaining and come up with an effective deterrent.