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Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 2178188)

It started with No Child Left Behind.

How can they even teach med school without anatomy? As an Occupational Therapist I had gross anatomy with cadaver lab. I can't imagine a doctor not having that.

My thoughts exactly. :rolleyes: I'm scared for the future.

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Originally Posted by amanda6035 (Post 2177964)

Oh my goodess. Do you take everything at literal face value? Definition of stupid tax: something I shouldn't have had to pay for if I hadn't done something stupid. The "something stupid" in this case, is taking out stupid loans, rather than working a little more hours, or being a little more responsible with the money I DID have when I was in college. Voluntarily incurred debt - yes.

Thanks for the explanation. Forgive me for being too dim to realize that, rather than calling it a tax that is stupid, you were suggesting that you are paying for your own stupidiy.

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Some people (like many of you, apparently :rolleyes:) think that debt is the only way to get a "good" education.

Wow. I don't think I've ever met anyone who thinks that debt is the only way to get a good education. I certainly don't -- I didn't incure a dime of debt and got a very good undergraduate and graduate education.

But some people in some circumstances may find it is the best option for them. Here's a thought: you decide what's best for you and your family, and give others the same courtesy.

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 2178204)

But some people in some circumstances may find it is the best option for them. Here's a thought: you decide what's best for you and your family, and give others the same courtesy.

How would someone without a huge trust fund get a J.D. from George Washington (in D.C.) at around $2,000 per credit hour without incurring debt? Is getting a degree from a highly rated law school a stupid tax?

Would someone be stupid for being admitted to a top law school and instead opting for some tier 2 school?

What you spend on your education is an investment in your future. As with other investments, some are good and some are bad. YMMV.

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 2178204)

But some people in some circumstances may find it is the best option for them. Here's a thought: you decide what's best for you and your family, and give others the same courtesy.

Sure. However, I also feel that I have a responsibility to at least plant the seed in a young person's head that they don't have to listen to what's "normal" by taking out student loans just because they are available. Just because it's an option doesn't mean it's the best option. If there are students reading this, they need to know there are ways to avoid debt, and to avoid those chains once they do get a big boy or big girl job.

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Originally Posted by amanda6035 (Post 2178465)

Absolutely. The more information people have, the better -- no argument about that. But with all that information, some people may still reasonably decide that for them a student loan is the best option.

Student loans aren't always bad or, well, stupid. They are an option that may be good or may be bad, depending on a variety of factors. Like Kevin says, incurring debt for an education is a form of investment, and some investments are wise and some aren't. That's all I'm saying.

I just got home from the Big Rally. It sounds like the talks are progressing well, but nobody is certain yet if there will be school on Monday. The biggest thing I'm hearing? Both sides are now negotiating in good faith.