This is phat as hell. I have to get me one of those. Where did you get it? That's nice as hell. I tried to send you a private message, but it's locked or something. I'm just trying to share info with you that's fraternity related. I'm looking forward to chatting with you.

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Perhaps.

It does, but unfortunately, not all members follow it.

I felt that symbol was a ridiculous, silly representation of the fraternity long before those statements were made. Or at least before I knew about the statements being made.

Thanks. I bought it at a greek website called "Doomwear". They have some really nice perry there. It looks really good with a nice blue shirt, a nice tie (complementary bow tie or neck tie) and a pair of nice pants, and shoes.

http://dimg.dillards.com/is/image/Di...le?$c7product$

I feel you to a degree. Yup, we do have protocol, and policies. I think most BGLOs do, but if it's related or associated to my frat, I'm not going make insults about it. If it's something that makes my frat look bad, I'll step to the bruh wearing it. You feel me?

Well, I think this deserves a mention. This is from Phi Mu's official collection, and I've sent a letter asking that it be discontinued immediately.

https://carnationcollection.phimu.or...mal/201430.jpg

I'm not sure what you dont like about this shirt..... I don't see anything terribly wrong with it, what am i missing?

Ummm...you don't see anything wrong with blackfacing their mascot and calling him "homeboy"?

I like how they gave him a 5-pointed crown for good measure.

Actually, it's an 8 point crown. Each of the three in the front have one directly behind that you wouldn't be able to see. That's why ASA's badge confused me at first when they told the NM that it's a 4 point crown...the 4th point is directly behind the middle point.

True, but it's also a 5-point crown in the same way that ZTA's official symbol is a 5-point crown.

I've always wondered about that...I thought it was usually depicted more tiara-style which wouldn't have additional points out of view.

Well, I was more concerned about the OTHER use of the 5-point crown.

There doesn't seem to be an "official" version, and even their website seems to vary between five total points and five visible points. Huh.

I imagine it's more of a semantics thing -- does 4/5 points mean 4/5 points total or 4/5 points visible. To ASA, it means 4 points total, with one being hidden. But to ZTA, I assume it means 5 points visible. Per the ZTA website:

http://www.zetataualpha.org/cms400mi...(1).jpg?n=9667Crown – The five-pointed Crown is an official symbol of the Fraternity. The significance of the five points is revealed to each member upon her Initiation. Many examples of crown artwork can be found within ZTA, and all are acceptable as long as the crown contains exactly five points.

Ah. I guess since I was on GC, I went for the Greek reference first, but you're exactly right.

Well, then, lets just say there are layers of inappropriateness going on here.

Only people who know what the mascot normally looks like will know that it is blackface. I am not one of those people. I too was unsure what was so offensive about the tshirt...mascot + "homeboy" is not the dumbest thing I have seen on tshirts, including things posted in the recruitment pictures thread. I figured that was for the members of whichever GLO to battle out since my nonmember opinion means nothing.

So, yeah, now that I know what it is and whose it is, I feel some kind of way about this being part of Phi Mu's OFFICIAL collection. Phi Mu has some serious explaining to do...and I am being polite.