Wow...some of what you just said are the first smart things that you said all thread. Kudos.

Now...point one.

Not all areas can get grants from cities to keep their areas up. And I am willing to bet that in order to do so, you probably still have to put something towards it to continue to get grants. You are so lucky to do so.

Point number 2.

You are just one person. The people that live in your area are just one group. Times change and people change but of course debating this point we are going into a circle.

Point number 3.

You admitted that gentrification and blight is not fixable. Good to see that you are finally realizing this. Now you stated that to nip it in the bud you have to contain it. The next problem that your city has to solve is making it livable so that way YOU CAN walk the streets at night. Containment, like fencing off your homes, is a temporary solution at best.

Point number 4.

You are still missing the point on this however. As stated repeatedly, what is doable in your area is not something easily doable in many areas and it goes along socio-economic lines, which was pointed out, as to why this isn't always a clear cut 'simple' solution.

You also need to figure into the fact that many businesses who want to gentrify an area actually COUNT on high crime stats so that way it's easier to acquire property they are looking to change.

As far as 'hopping' the fence I was figuratively speaking...not literally.

@33girl, yeah you just reminded me about a law Virgina recently passed where certain areas can deny public services if they suspect that residents are illegals.

People in blighted communities, on the whole don't really pay taxes. They get more than they pay in. And since there's generally no retail, mostly due to inventory shrinkage and safety issues in blighted communities, unless the city has a big footprint (which is not typical of older cities), then residents generally have to go out to the suburbs to go to Sam's, Wal-Mart or what have you.

Further, property taxes aren't going to be remotely comparable to the suburbs either due to depressed property values.

Expecting the same level of services in high crime, blighted communities is just absurd. And even in the suburbs, cooperation and interaction between public safety officials and the community is both common and expected. At least it is here.

Nice finish!
There ya go!! Speak from what you know!

I wasn't talking about blighted communities, nor were you. There's a hell of a big difference between "blight" and as someone said, a community w/ a demographic that isn't as desirable to retailers. Those are the communities that the cops and the city services in general tend to blow off...allowing them to slip into full ass blight...and that's reprehensible.

[[ [ Blighted communities ] Communities undesirable to retailers ]]

I don't understand those funny doodads. What are you trying to say?

It's an attempt at a Venn diagram.

Don't invoke my dead Logics teacher in this thread. LOL LOL LOL

and that train is pulling in.....soon.

Care to enumerate? I don't quite remember anything that has been specifically racial?

Maybe you were drunk, but you said African Americans scare white people away at parties, or something like that. Then, you don't really have an understanding of why the Rebel Flag that you like is offensive to some Americans. Comparing one inhumane act with another, while saying one is not as bad as the other. etc etc. Inhumane is inhumane, one isn't any worse than the other. An educated person would know that, which is why I couldn't figure out why you would make a comment to Daemon about his education level. I don't agree with everything he says, either, but you don't have to make an attempt to belittle his intelligence level. He seems to be pretty intelligent, to me.

head start with this one

This was still a warm up

This one is a gem but not quite


Farr-reners?? Really? This may be a stretch but this as a response can be well....hmmm


Aryan Blood? heh that one was worth a chuckle


One of the few times you talked with sense


Post #100 was a winner....and CG you can do the rest
:D

lol
You win! :p

Perhaps I misclicked, but these first three have nothing to do with race?

Foreigners does not equal race.

and clearly a joke, besides.

Of course it was worth a chuckle, because it was obviously a joke.


True enough.

But I'm not sure any of those posts were specifically dumb or had illogical arguments.

You are sure full of jokes...for starters.