What is also difficult for many people to understand with PTSD is that people who suffer with this disorder have IRRATIONAL responses to stimuli. What als463 probably sees as little instigation to promote a response, ie. seeing women walk around in sorority letter shirts, produces a significant response in the patient. No, it is not rational, but that is part of the disorder. Her mind is reliving the past experience every time she sees those shirts just like it's happening right then and there not six months or a year prior. If she was able to control it, she wouldn't have the diagnosis.

Geez, I wondered how we got on the subject of PTSD.

Well, someone putting quotes around "abuse" and completely misrepresenting the disorder makes the fingers start typing on their own. I just put them on the keyboard and let'm go.

Thank you for that explaination, Dr. Angel.

It's certainly not my specialty, but it always makes me SMH when people try to apply normal brain function to abnormal brain function. And, everybody is different. My husband is deathly afraid of heights. I am completely indifferent. He really cannot control it. When we went to the top of the Tokyo Tower, I thought he was going to pass out. He turned into a limp noodle. It was kind of funny, although I do feel a little sorry for him. He is so afraid, even though cognitively he knows that he is perfectly safe.

i totally agree. a lot of members were also left out of the loop, and i (also as a fellow sister) don't appreciate your "help" by putting this on the internet to see. so next time you feel like "helping" someone, then you can think about what if it was YOUR sorority and then maybe you will rethink your decision. thanks.

btw i am not directing this at sirfie, i am directing at the person she was replying to. thanks.

Um newsflash for you, but Phi Mu IS her sorority.

just wanted to put ya'lls minds at ease, and yes. scavenger hunts were brought up and also rampant misuse of social media was brought up about a comment on someones picture. now none of this was legit because it was voluntary on each hunt and the charges were brought up from some bitter members who had dropped earlier in the year for reasons that were not hazing. as a semi-new member i feel very cheated and upset that i can't live out my phi mu experience fully. i know that you guys are worried, but don't be because we know that it takes more than a piece of paper to make us a sisterhood. and although they took our charter, we are stronger now than we have been in a long time. ps: i am still saddened, but i realize that phi mu is a big part of my life, and always has been, and will continue to be. les soeurs fideles.

um then newsflash for you, then if she was a true phi mu, then she would be trying to help us and not hurt us. after all we are sisters and should be treated with respect. that was not respect and i sense bitterness from you too. and if her chapter went down, then i would hope that she would want love and support also. after all we are supposed to be molding our lives by our three ideals LOVE HONOR AND TRUTH right?

Bitterness from me? Wtf? What do I have to be bitter about? And how did she hurt you by posting what appears to be an official press release from Phi Mu Fraternity?

She's still a Phi Mu.

And the bolded.. just uncalled for.

oops. on the real, i didn't mean to bold the "i sense bitterness from you too" my bad. but seriously, that wasn't an official press release. that was sent in an email to our listserve. and to be honest, it still stings a lot, when it is all over the internet and people are bad mouthing us for something that we DIDN'T DO. now i'm sorry if i offended, but to be real we are all still getting over it and would appreciate it if people would stay out of our business.

You didn't bold it, I did. And it was uncalled for directed at Vito.

We have no way to know what was done or not done unless the information is provided. You don't actually sound like you're "getting over it." But the only people who keep bringing it up in this thread are people who post about how they don't want it brought up anymore.

Okay.

The last two pages of this thread are...interesting.