At least you recognize that you always have to have the last word. Even if it's wrong. :rolleyes:

The shoe-thrower was beaten in custody. Link is to BBC news.

Nice democracy we're building over there.

Nothing I haven't said before, some people just refuse to listen.

How so? She asked a valid question.

One that NO ONE here has bothered to answer.

WHY WAS Bush in Iraq?

Gloating at his handiwork!

While you all are so busy being pissed off at me, look back in history?

Has any president EVER gone INTO (on many occasions) a warzone?

Has any of our presidents traveled to Vietnam while fighting was going on?

Did our presidents go to Germany while fighting was going on?

Hell did Bush SENIOR go to Iraq while in office?

If I am wrong then folks, by all means please correct me, but I do not recall ever off the top of my head any of our presidents traveling INTO an area in which we were actively engaged in a war except this one and someone wants to know why and you think it's a bad question?

Bruh, please.

I am still waiting to see the memo that the Iraqi people sent that asked us to bring them a nice piping hot mug of democracy to them along with a 6 pack of religious and cultural tolerance...hehe. I won't hold my breath.

Your slip is showing.

heh...why you looking?

Your shoes are untied.

Americans who celebrate Bush having shoes thrown at him are like kids on a playground. It's great to critize this country and our leaders but to laugh at others' disdain is extremely shortsighted. It isn't just a personal attack on Bush, it is an attack on a symbol of America.

It's an attack that Obama-oh-great-symbol-of-change isn't immune from if his policies don't bring about the joy and cheer that people assume that they will. Or if change doesn't come tomorrow like a lot of people are expecting from Obama. Will it be funny then?

Bush was in Iraq as a surprise-surprise final visit. That's the public explanation for it. Whatever the case, he's still OUR POTUS regardless of how some of you think about him and his presidency. Remember that presidents don't operate independently so to hate Bush you should also have a general dislike for bipartisan politics, power capitalism, and the many pieces to the puzzle that got us where we are now.

1. On another note, I'd love to play dodgeball with Bush. And have a few glasses of wine afterwards. He's quick on his feet and seems like he really can't wait to NOT be president soon. Even the coolest people can leave sucky legacies, for whatever reasons.

2. On another-another note, it is a shame that the reporter has allegedly been tortured in custody. That isn't democracy or justice. On one end, he should've known what he was potentially putting himself into when he decided to do what he did. I don't trust ANY government as far as I can throw it.

It's good to see that there are a lot of people in this thread with some sense. Across the country, stupid people are celebrating this like a Super Bowl win. I expect SNL to have a field day.

Daemonseid is doing the most in this thread. Daemonseid, if you agree with AKA Monet, doesn't that refute much of what you've been trying to say? She said throwing the shoe wasn't right for that man to do regardless of how people feel about the POTUS.

he did do a good job of getting out of the way, though.

does the white house have gymnastics?

If that is the question, then you missed the point of what I was agreeing with her about.

I am in agreement only with her questioning of why was Bush in Iraq in the first place, putting himself in harm's way.

That is what I am agreement with, I can't understand why people are missing that.

For those that need clarification this is the question I am referring to:

You agreed with the lesser of her points.

A lot of people wonder why he was there. The public statement is that he was there for a surprise final visit. Does this make or break the shoe incident?

Regardless...that is the point I agreed on because it IS a valid question to which I referred to earlier stating that as far as I know, none of our sitting presidents EVER visited an active warzone in which we were engaged in. Does it make or break the shoe incident? SURE!

That easily could have been an assassination in which by this time today if it was the Media would ahve already been working theories about teh purpose of Bush's visit et cetera et cetera and so on.

Like it or not altho it may be a lesser point, it's a very good question and sometimes the small questions are the glaring ones we should be asking.

No. Idiots would've found it funny, anyway.

Some idiots would've laughed if he had been assassinated. :rolleyes:

People don't know why he was there and they didn't wait for an explanation before they celebrated the shoe incident. Why he was there and the shoe incident are two separate issues, unless we're a) hypothesizing that the SS was unprepared for this trip and therefore unprepared to fight off shoe wielding reporters and b) saying that the POTUS is to blame for whatever harm they are placed in--even if they are in a room filled with reporters. The latter is a dangerous argument to make.

Not me.

The problem is those great points are so often buried in so much muck, I've gotten so I usually just skim his posts, if that.

I don't read his posts. I tried to skim the last page and my hair starting falling out. That's why I had to ask him about his agreement with AKA Monet.

Whoa, DS, it's time to take a break. This part of your post has a definite Earpish quality to it. Take a breath and a step back from the keyboard until it passes...