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On my way home from work this evening, not more than 30 minutes ago, I heard a news report on NPR about the events at SDSU and about drug use at other colleges; I have to praise their reporting as they did not mention AT ALL any GLOs....it was refreshing to hear a report that DID NOT say "fraternity this, fraternity that".....
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"frats" are being portrayed negatively
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The saddest part is that less then 1% of the entire Greek SDSU population is represented by the actions of the few Greeks that were arrested Tuesday. I'm doing my best to spread the word that Greeks a positive influence on the campus of US colleges. Please see my video posting on youtube by clicking here. The media never shows the great things Greeks do, at least not in any big media way (which is simply the way the media works...i'm not complaining). Instead of complaining and being negative about how we've been treated by the media in the past, I've taken initiative and started the Greeks Do Great Things Website (click here) so that Greeks from around the country can show the world the great things that they've done on their specific college campus. Go to the site, leave a quick note about a positive thing that your chapter has done for your community or campus, and help me change the "animal house" sex drugs and rock and roll image that Greeks are portrayed with. The world is looking at us all right now. I had nearly 10,000 people visit the blog article that I published on the topic in the first 48 hours that it was online. People came from all over the world, including Shanghai, London, South Africa, Australia, Sweden, and much more. The World Is Watching! Show that Greeks are a positive influence on campuses around the country! Tell your story at GreeksDoGreatThings.com |
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Unless you were listening to the same news report ZetaPhi was listening to, I suggest you clam up and stop advertising your site here. |
I'm trying to help the entire greek community BetteDavisEyes
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I'm here to get the Greeks of the country to come together and voice the positive things that they've done on their local college campus. Please take the time to understand that the world is watching Greeks and we can use this to abolish that negative image that non-Greeks have of fraternity or sorority life. If we can work together we can do this! Sorry BetteDavisEyes, but I simply can't "clam up" or shut up about this. Now is the time to show the world what positive things greeks can do. Be a part of the positivity and not a part of the problem |
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Not really. But it's easy to get caught up in the story and sensationalize. Drug use on college campuses has been a story in many settings for a long time. There have been undercover officers at city-based campuses for over decades, even if massive busts have not taken place. There have also been discussion by campus police departments and officials on trying to survey to student population or find other ways to gauge the drug use. It's just easier to target groups of college students (i.e. GLOs) because these are aggregates of students whose activities are more easily tracked. People who aren't dumb know that drug use among GLO members is only a sample of the larger college student population that is using and dealing drugs. |
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Please don't advertise your site on here anymore. ;) |
Student from Hawaii caught up in drug bust
Most of the following story is based off of what must be the AP article that many papers used.
However it does have a few things I have not seen before: Student from Hawaii caught up in drug bust SAN DIEGO (AP) - An honors student pleaded not guilty Thursday to charges that he sold cocaine in an undercover operation that culminated in massive drug busts at San Diego State University. Kenneth Ciaccio, the suspected leader of a cocaine trafficking ring at the 34,000-student campus, is accused of selling cocaine twice to government agents. He faces up to six years and four months in prison if he is convicted. His mother wept behind her hand as he was led out of the courtroom in shackles........ Federal officials said 128 people, including at least 75 SDSU students as well as a student from Hawaii who attends Grossmont College in nearby El Cajon, were arrested during the five-month investigation. Some students detained for minor drug offenses or other infractions turned informants for federal agents.......... Ciaccio's lawyer, Michael Messina, said he had not seen any evidence proving that his client was at the center of the ring purportedly operating out of the rundown fraternity house, a block off Fraternity Row. "I do not believe he's the main guy," Messina said after the court hearing. ......... http://news.aol.com/story/_a/student...08212909990013 |
people care...I hope you can see that
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I'm not trying to advertise...I'm trying to get people to take action. If you can't see that then I apologize. I've received support through other areas where I've been rounding up the troops and maybe I should just stick to positive arenas where Greeks care. If I can gather enough positive stories about Greeks on my website, then I'm 100% confident I can get the media to stop ignoring the great things greeks do. I've never been prouder to be Greek then I have this week, interacting with so many people and explaining to each person exactly what it means to be greek. People care, and I think it's important to spread the word. sorry. please don't take this the wrong way = / |
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"Damage control" can often have the opposite effect than you expect. |
a concerned greek trying to stay positive
I'm not sure where I heard this quote, but it inspires me everyday, especially when I am hit with negativity
"It is not the times of greatness that show who you are...it's the times of trial and hardship that shows the measure of your character" You have confirmed that this is a great statement to live each day by. I'm working to promote a positive message and will not stop because you don't agree. I will stop for awhile here on this forum because I don't have the time to try to convince a single person about this. Please Just Do This Check the site 1 week from now so you can see what other people think of the site. I hope that the actions of people from around the country will actually show you that people do care about trying to promote positive actions of Greeks. In closing, I wish you well and hope that you will check the site next week. I do admire that you are speaking your mind and applaud you for that, but I simply don't agree with the points of your argument. -a concerned Greek doing something to make a difference |
The way the media is these days, the best thing to do might be for y'all to just pretend this never happened and further refuse to talk to anyone about it except to say that you weren't involved and that you hope justice is done whatever that is.
The media machine must be fed for it to keep going. You stop feeding it and it moves on to the next story (unless you become important enough for them to start to generate their own conduct, a la Scott Peterson). |
A few new stories and view points:
Weber says he wasn't told of feds on campus May 10, 2008 San Diego State University President Stephen Weber was unaware federal agents were posing as students to crack a campus drug ring until about two weeks before the end of the five-month undercover effort. Weber said yesterday that he didn't learn about the federal role in Operation Sudden Fall until April 21, shortly before the yearlong investigation culminated Tuesday with the announcement of 96 drug-related arrests that included 75 students. By the end of the week, the District Attorney's Office reported those numbers had grown to 125 total arrests, 95 involving students. Weber didn't notify his boss, California State University Chancellor Charles Reed, until Monday. .......... http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/m...-1n10sdsu.html The Family of Purported SDSU "Drug Kingpin" Speaks The family of the man at the center of the SDSU drug ring speaks exclusively to FOX6 news. Kenneth Ciaccio sits in a jail cell thinking about the damage to his family and his future........ http://www.fox6.com/mostpopular/stor...f-aeaacc4ff0d3 Frats condemn crimes at SDSU UCLA Greek system members say drug activity here is unlikely to occur on large scale A day after dozens of students at San Diego State University – including several fraternity members – were arrested in a major drug bust, leaders of the Greek system’s Westwood chapters expressed confidence that no such incident was possible at UCLA. Almost 100 people were arrested Tuesday, 75 of them SDSU students, after a six-month investigation that was prompted after a student died of a cocaine overdose. During the investigation, another cocaine overdose death occurred at an SDSU fraternity house....... http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/news/...n-crimes-sdsu/ Drug arrests are busting up SDSU's rep A university is a brand, complete with an image that it sells to potential customers. Well, it's damage control time. San Diego State's brand suffered a major disaster Tuesday, when "Operation Sudden Fall" caused the national image of SDSU to suddenly plummet. Anytime CNN, MSNBC and every major news outlet plasters a university's name across their front page as headline news, that's a huge problem. Make no mistake about it: Not all publicity is good publicity. The students who chose to deal drugs out of on-campus fraternity houses, using their connections within the Greek system to build a network of customers, just devastated the Aztec brand..... http://media.www.thedailyaztec.com/m...-3367243.shtml BTB: What happened with the IRC meeting/report from the other day. Anyone hear anything on that? |
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Why is this news? This article seems like one big spoon full of bullshit. "We have active alumni at our house frequently so our members aren't involved in criminal activities." Give me a f-ing break. |
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Don't know the guy, but he did graduate from the prestigious Punahou School, Barack Obama's alma mater. It's making big news over here because you just don't hear about stuff like this from Punahou kids. |
Another group of SDSU students arraigned in drug sting
Another group of SDSU students arraigned in drug sting
SAN DIEGO – Another group of San Diego State University students was arraigned in Superior Court Tuesday on various drug charges for their alleged roles in a campus-wide drug-trafficking ring. Eleven students and two non-students, all males, all pleaded not guilty to charges ranging from sales to possession. ...... ......... Another student, Nicolas Ghosen, 22, came up with a detailed business plan to run part of the drug operation out of the Theta Chi fraternity, Tafreshi said. In a letter to another suspected drug dealer, Ghosen proposed pocketing 10 percent of future sales if he provided bodyguard and bookkeeping services. Agents found the letter in a shed behind the fraternity house along with several hundred baggies of cocaine, razors, spoons, marijuana and a loaded handgun. ........ http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/m...-bn13sdsu.html |
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Leave drugs and an incriminating letter in a shed? Brilliant. |
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SAN DIEGO STATE UNIVERSITY
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: Jack Beresford San Diego State University marcomm@mail.sdsu.edu SDSU Lifts Interim Suspension on Three Fraternities SAN DIEGO (Thursday, May 15, 2008) – San Diego State University has lifted the interim suspension from three campus fraternities, the university announced today. After a review of case details, SDSU Vice President for Student Affairs James Kitchen lifted the interim suspension from the Phi Kappa Theta, Sigma Alpha Mu and Sigma Alpha Epsilon fraternities. The suspension was lifted after an administrative review found that those arrested in connection to the controlled substances investigation were either inactive members of the fraternity and/or were not presently residents of chapter houses. The three fraternities had been placed on interim suspension based on each having a single member arrested on felony charges. However, the university review found that there was not sufficient information to implicate the fraternity chapter as a whole. Three other fraternity chapters, including Lambda Chi Alpha, Phi Kappa Psi and Theta Chi, are still on interim suspension pending further investigation by SDSU administration. For more information on the controlled substances investigation at SDSU, please visit www.sdsu.edu/information. San Diego State University is the oldest and largest higher education institution in the San Diego region. Since it was founded in 1897, the university has grown to offer bachelor's degrees in 81 areas, master's degrees in 73 areas and doctorates in 16 areas. SDSU's more than 34,000 students participate in an academic curriculum distinguished by direct contact with faculty and an increasing international emphasis that prepares them for a global future. For more information, visit www.sdsu.edu. |
Wow, can you even imagine working in the SDSU communications & marketing office these days? They must be in overdrive 24/7 right now. I noticed this logo on the investigation information page:
http://advancement.sdsu.edu/marcomm/...erThanEver.gif And then this press release about their new message/p.r. push. I give them a lot of credit and hope they get big bonuses or extra vacation time when all of this eventually calms down: http://advancement.sdsu.edu/marcomm/.../pr051508.html |
There is a full page ad in the SD Union Trib today with a list of supporters of SDSU and how it's handling the situation.
"We alumni, faculty, staff, students, parents and friends at San Diego State University support the university and its leadership in taking a stand to ensure a safe campus environment. We would expect nothing less of a top urban research university. SDSU, we are prouder than ever." you can go to www.sdsu.edu/prouderthanever and add your name. |
Should it be "More Proud Than Ever"? Is "Prouder Than Ever" proper English? :confused:
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Well I'm glad Phi Kappa Theta got off probation, A brother from our chapter went out there to see how things were going.. Apperently its all good now..
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so i heard Theta Chi is still going to be active in SDSU. i was like WTF they have such a forgiving HQ if it were mine we would be kicked the fuck off.
they are in reorganization so most of the guys are going to get booted to start with fresh new ppl. but still hahaa. |
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A reorg is pretty intense. You would have to talk to an actual OX but from what I know it's the last resort before yanking the charter. The OX over here was reorged in 2000. They went from 30-40 to something like 5 or 6. It works though, hearing stories of how they were back them and being close friends with a lot of them now.
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There must be something we don't know about for them to keep this chapter open - even if they are reorganizing, theirs was the name that got bandied about the most in this deal. Do they have a super expensive house there or something? |
You know, even if Theta Chi is willing to reorg, Is the school letting them stay on? That is a little wried as most schools would kick off a GLO in a moment if it was involved in something like this.
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Yeah dont get me wrong i mean it was only a handful of the actual members and i get along with Theta Chi at my school but damn this is too crazy. i feel you i bet if other charters were pulled for little dumb things. i guess my friend told me (SDSU STudent) that they are in the process of building a 5 or so million dollar house so maybe that? and well the chapter has been around for a while too so idk but still haha. |
Are they still going to be recognized by SDSU? They may still be active according to National OX, but I would be surprised if SDSU said "no worries guys, you can still participate in all greek activities and represent SDSU with your upstanding morals and classy brothers." Doubtful.
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