Understood.;)

But even your milk would be cheaper if gas is cheaper, everything would be cheaper. What I'm saying though is that the supply for milk is a lot less than that for gas, so the more supply of something the cheaper it'll be. The more demand, the more expensive. That's pretty basic. But people aren't going to gripe about the price of milk, cause they aren't buying it in the volume that they buy gas. And to be correct, I gripe about the price of everything, milk, soft drinks, food, about as equally as gas. The supply demand curves are met for all for those though, because yes I'm willing to pay the price asked for those products. However, though I'm really not willing to, I'm FORCED to pay the price for gasoline that is set, that is why I have such a big problem with the gas prices. Gas is the most inelastic product on the american consumer market, that is why there is a huge ordeal about gas than other things.

Go take an economics class and then you can come back and chastise me, because I'll bet you'll agree with me a lot more.

I was putting off getting gas until my light came on and it finally came on today.

I pulled into my usual Chevron and noticed that the red Regular pump was bagged up. I drove around to another pump and same thing. They freaking ran out of Regular gas, so I bit the bullet and paid $3.91 for Premium. :mad:

^^You poor thing, I would've gone to another station. There's usually 3 or 4 grouped together at an intersection and I try to remember that when the baggies go up!

I've already said it once, but you obviously need me to say it again: if this is true, then what I said does not apply to you. Clearly, I stated my being fed up with the attitudes of people with backwards priorities--I've said NOTHING about rationalizing the prices of any product. How about you go take a class in remedial reading because that's twice you've wasted time constructing long-winded arguments against something I wasn't fighting you on. :rolleyes:

Now, back to our regularly scheduled thread.

lol this is some funny chit.

If I drink one glass of milk, it gives me gas like a mug. I don't even want to imagine what 26 gallons would do to my system.

On 4/26 it was $3.57/ gal reg. unleaded.

Today, 16 days later, at the same gas station, it was $3.74/gal.

I filled it up with about 1/3 left... and it was close to $38.

A full tank is now $56.85 for me.

At that rate, my fill is $97.84, and I fill up about twice a week.

One of my coworkers has a REALLY bad commute... it's made worse because of traffic... and both him & his wife drive about the same distance.

They spend around $500 a MONTH on fuel.

Before gas prices started going up, they tried selling their home to move closer (when they moved out there the commute wasn't the way it is now) and they live in a nice area, but the house never sold after being on the market for several months. :(

I can't even fathom what a huge dent $500/mo would put on my fun budget :(

^^^ That's awful.

Gas hit $4.00/gallon here yesterday :(

Ha I don't care how expensive gas is, I'm not giving up fun or beer.

I have absolutely no doubt it will be that much the next time I fill up.

Gas is like 3.50 (it could be higher though, but not higher than 3.75). It is retarded!

Anyone else remember the time when they complained about gas reaching, OMG, 2 bucks! I do!

If gas got back down to 2 bucks, I'd probably kiss the ground! Hell, if it got down to 2.50 I'd kiss the ground :D

lol

you and me both!

I've heard all of those arguments.

They're probably valid. Big companies deserve to make money.

I still want an explaination of the record profits.

Something doesn't figure.

The day has come. I had to pay $4/gallon for premium. I don't care about this being the state of the economy, blah blah blah. I still don't like it, but I know that I must deal with it or not work. ugh. :(

Luckly I do not drive far, 4.5 miles a day.

But I only put $20.00 in at a time. The scary thing is one time I got 189 miles, and the last time it was 136, that is @ 50 miles less!:(

You do realize you'd spend less on gas if you filled all the way up everytime.

$4.439/gal for premium :(

I am feeling your pain. We premium girls need to cry on each other's shoulder. ;)

I agree . . . it just means that I will have to walk more for my fun. I save my driving for my commute to work and back and try my best to park for the weekend and walk (or convince others to drive :o)

Hm, and how do you figure that?

According to this:
http://www.wikihow.com/Increase-Fuel-Mileage-on-a-Car

"When you fill up with gas, fill up completely and try and keep your tank above one third full. If your fuel runs low, the engine might not receive a steady supply of gas (since it will splash around while you're driving and it might momentarily splash away from the tube that leads gas out of the tank). Not having a steady supply of gas will make your engine less efficient. The benefits of having a full tank will outweigh the drawbacks of having the added weight."

Let's say today gas is 3.54/gal. You put 5.64 Gal in your car.

Next time, gas is 3.61/gal. You put 5.54 gal in your car.

Next time, gas is 3.71/gas. You put 5.39 gal in your car.

That's $60.00, 16.57 gal. That means for an average you paid $3.62/gal.

Well lets say you put $60 at $3.54, thats 16.95 gal.

:eek: lol lol lol :D

Tom you're so funny.:) Actually, what I think would be good for you is the Charge Cycle. It's a new electric bike. It doesn't really rely on total battery power, because that wouldn't get you too far. It actually runs on a cyborg like mix of muscle and machine power, which means it can travel twice as far as most battery charged powered bikes. It's pretty cool. When you pedal, an integrated torque sensor triggers the right kind of power to keep the bike at a steady pace. The harder you pedal, the slower the motor turns. It's supposedly for sale right now. I'm not sure of the price, but based on your angry post, you might want to look into it.:p

LOL, it is fuel enjected!;)

With less gas, less weight, then easier on mileage.

Some webs sites to help find lower prices
 

Following are some web sites that can be of some help in finding lower priced gas in your area:
http://gasprices.mapquest.com/index.jsp
http://autos.msn.com/everyday/gasstations.aspx
http://gasbuddy.com/
http://www.gaspricewatch.com/new/default_V3.asp
From:
12 ways to find cheaper gas

With gas prices stuck in the stratosphere, you can save hundreds of dollars a year by using these tips and tricks to buy your gas for less.
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com...dCheapGas.aspx

I remember reading how a large part of the increase in the cost of gas is due to the weak dollar. A barrel of oil is still worth the same amount when set against gold as it was a few years ago.

The devalue of the dollar, due to stupid policies like bailing out homeowners that made irresponsible decisions and bought houses they couldn't afford (for example), is causing this increase.

It had some other examples...but I can't be bothered to try and find the article. Once again I'll just blame the democrats and their unsound fiscal policies driving the dollar into the ground.

Gas prices have actually dropped here a bit. They hit $3.95 and stayed put for a few days, went down to $3.91, and now it's down to $3.85. My dad thinks it will drop a little bit more before Memorial Day, and it will suddenly jump to over $4.00.

I FOUND A BARGAIN!!!
 

I saw gas at a nearby station for $3.67!!!

(Is it sad that $3.66 is a bargain for regular unleaded?)

That is correct, when the dollar weakens in global markets the price of oil goes up because oil is traded in strictly American dollars. Thats not the only reason oil prices are so high though. OPEC says they are producing enough oil to meet global demand, and they won't increase it because they are basically punished America. A while back, when oil was about $20/barrel, OPEC and the US were working on a deal to increase middle eastern oil production which would have meant billions of more dollars for OPEC, well before the deal was done, far eastern countries struck oil and the US went there to get the rest of the oil needs and oil plummeted to $10/barrel. So OPEC wasn't happy about that and now they're hammering us for it.

Just read this story in AutoWeek. Interesting observation on Federal "Gas Tax":
Kevin A. Wilson

Pounding the pavement
I was going to toss in my two cents on the gasoline-tax summer-holiday idea advocated by two of the presidential candidates, but you know what? They're U.S. senators, paid to lead, legislate and cast votes. So if the idea was more than pandering for votes, we'd see a bill in Congress with their names on it. It takes longer to pass and implement such legislation than to fill the starting grid at Indy.

Forget a Memorial Day-to-Labor Day tax cut. Ask instead, why is there a federal gasoline tax? It's not just a tool for managing the economy or reducing emissions or oil consumption. The tax, established in 1956, goes into the federal Highway Trust Fund so we have money to build and maintain roads (a tiny portion goes to mass transit).......
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl...8/newsletter01

This is what is bugging me more than anything:

When gas prices were rising when Clinton was in office, he released some of the federal oil reserves, lowering the price. It actually ended up making the gov. some money, as he then turned around and bought them back at the now lower price. Why hasn't Bush done this? Oh yeah, he likes his oil buddies having record profits.

It's a quick fix, it'd work for a couple of weeks, but then they would cut it off, or run out, and you're right back where you started. There are two ways to fix the problem, the dollar must strengthen in the global market, or OPEC has to agree to produce more oil per day.

ETA: We have stopped putting oil in the reserve, but you see it hasn't helped at all.

Why Pay for Premium Gas?
 

Found this in AAA's Car and Travel Magazine today-Could be of interest for those who are currently filling up with Hi-Test:
Why Pay for Premium Gas?
Do you spend $200 every year on octane that you don’t need?
To rein in budget-busting gas prices, maybe you need look no further than the button you press to pick a grade at the pump. If you usually fill up with highpriced, high-octane gas, you could save $6 or more per fill-up by switching to good old 87-octane regular. You’ll notice a difference in your credit card statement, but probably not in the way your car behaves.
According to AAA’s most recent statewide Fuel Gauge Report, premium gas costs 31 cents more per gallon than regular; midgrade, about 23 cents more. Despite their higher costs in a time of rising overall gas prices, premium and midgrade still account for roughly 17 percent of the market, according to the U.S. Energy Information Agency. Some people opt for higher-octane gas because the owner’s manual tells them to use it in their cars. (Actually, carmakers recommend premium gas for only about 5 percent of all models.) Other folks buy premium because they believe it gives them better mileage or more power. Still, others splurge on an occasional tankful as a treat for their car, much the way you might indulge your dog with a juicy morsel of steak every now and then. Unfortunately, all these reasons will waste your money....
http://carandtravelmagazine.com/Cara...remium_Gas.asp

:rolleyes:It will only impact 70,000 barrels per day, which Bush said is too small to make an impact. Not that he knows what he is talking about :rolleyes:

He's been around the oil business his entire life. I think he knows what he is talking about concerning it. That is too small to make an impact.

I haven't seen anyone mention anything about refineries.....which, in my opinion, is one of the greatest causes behind the increase in gas prices besides the futures markets and their uncertainty due to the conflict in the Middle East. Refineries used to use a gasoline product called Methyl Tertiary Butyl Ether to make cars run cleaner....but it also was a contaminate and was severely affecting water supplies. Now they are using ethanol and it is costing oil/production companies a boat load to switch over.

Even with the recent spikes in oil production, companies can't meed the demands of refineries because of having to produce ethanol. The cost to produce it is being handed to us people. You can thank Congress for that..although their actions were not a bad thing given the circumstances. Now add in state and federal taxes and you get a pretty good idea of why it is so high.

I moved 2 weeks ago. Gas at the station 2 lights from me was $3.48. This morning it was $3.79. :mad: Bush doesnt care about working people and/or their budgets. The economy is not in a slow down, its in a recession. Stop sweating OPEC and find somewhere else to get our oil for gas already. Already my summer plans are greatly reduced because gas is too dayum expensive. How's THAT for economic stimulation?

Actually if you go by the textbook definition of a recession.......I'm pretty sure we aren't in one....at least we weren't last month when someone else mentioned it.

.........and this isn't really aimed at you I guess but, I get so sick and tired of blaming f'ing Bush for gas prices. That is a tool of the completely ignorant and uninformed. "Stop sweating OPEC and find somewhere else to get our oil for gas"??? Take a trip through East Texas, the Gulf of Mexico, Ft. Worth, Wyoming-Colorado-North Dakota, The Marcellus Shale......just to name a few. The oil and gas is there but it takes time, money, and extremely smart individuals to get it. There is oil all over this country.

I love how we acomplian, myself included when European Countrys have paid a much higher price than we have in the USA!

I also wonder why the Oil for Alaska is going to Japan and not us in the USA?

mccallan, Im sure you weren't referencing me. My point is he is acting as if OPEC is the ONLY place we can get oil from. If we have all these places at home where we can get it from, then why is gas so high? Rhetorically (sp?) speaking, of course. I place some of the blame on Bush because he is so closely tied with Big Oil. And I am hardly ignorant nor uninformed. I am going by what my wallet says.