It's kind of interesting that the two Georgia campuses are the same as Sigma Sigma Sigma, right?

That is somewhat interesting, yes. I wonder why? Anyone know?

Perhaps because certain NPCs tend to be on similar campuses.

Maybe in the South. I don't know any Tri Sigs here in the midwest either. [Tri-Sigs? Tri Sigs? Pick the best one.]

Actually not just in the south. Maybe not at your school, but the former educational sororities tend to be on a lot of the same campuses (many that were former teacher colleges, and others that are the size/environment where they tend to be very successful).

According to the Tri Sigma directory and the AST directory, we only share a campus at 2 colleges.

That's not a lot.

third

Do you mean in one particular state? AST and SSS share 53 colleges. 33 where both have active chapters, plus 7 where both were once active and are now dormant, 6 where AST has closed but SSS is still open, and 7 where SSS is closed but AST is still open.

Active shared colleges
U Arkansas Monticello
U Central Arkansas
St. Leo U
Armstrong Atlantic
Oglethorpe
Eastern Illinois
Western Illinois
Southeastern Louisiana
Fitchburg State
Central Michigan
Eastern Michigan
Seton Hall
Marist
Southeastern Oklahoma State
Bloomsburg
Clarion
East Stroudsburg State
Edinboro
Gannon
Indiana of Penn
Lock Haven
Moravian
Slippery Rock
Johnson & Wales (Rhode Island)
St. Mary's
James Madison
Longwood
Radford
Concord
Fairmont State
Shepherd

Both AST and SSS Chartered but both now closed
Northern Colorado
Western State College
Ball State
Wayne State
Harris-Stowe
Youngstown State
Wisconsin-Milwaukee

Both chartered, AST Open and SSS now Closed
Henderson State
Grand Valley State
North Carolina Wesleyan
California of Penn
Duquesne
Cumberland
West Vrginia Tech

Both Chartered, SSS open, AST closed
Southern Illinois
Emporia State
Northeastern (Mass)
Truman State
UNC Pembroke
Northeastern State (Okla)

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where in the midwest are you talking about?...Clearly it isn't Wisconsin, Illinois, Missouri...hmmm maybe Indiana??

Since you were questioning...Generally we prefer Tri Sigma or Sigma. not that it really matters. :p If you asked me if I am a Tri Sig, I would say yes and move on.

back on topic...

For the last coloniztions at Bama, did the university offer much help? Did any other GLOs on campus make any effort? This is such an undertaking for any organization.

Irishpipes: Yes, I meant in Michigan, where AST was founded. Sorry for the confusion, I forgot to throw that in there.

I figured we must be talking about apples and oranges!

Very true :) Glad we cleared that up.

If a new group colonized AFTER formal recruitment, wouldn't that put them somewhat at a disadvantage starting out? It seems that the "prime" PNMs would have already pledged another group - leaving them with girls that didn't go through recruitment, dropped out for one reason or another, or were totally dropped by all the other groups. Group reputation is so strong at a school like Bama, and if you start out with the reputation of pledging anyone that didn't get a bid somewhere else, it's hard to shake that image, isn't it?

It may be hard in a SEC school, but it has worked at other places.

Sometimes those who did not rush were looking for something else or were not recruited as did not fit the so called mold.

Well there might be lots of upperclassmen that did not go through recruitment who would be a great asset to a new colony. Usually in a colony they have a large mix of freshmen and then upperclassmen. I know that's what AOII at Arkansas did. I think most NPC groups tend to have some upper classmen in their colony group to help distribute leadership and women who are already involved on campus. Also, there is always a handful of "prime" PNMs who might decide not to go through recruitment just to be a part of a new colony and to be considered a "founding member" of a chapter. Sometimes it’s just as cool to be a part of the newest sorority on campus as it is to be a part of the oldest sorority on campus.

UA is open for expansion. Let the speculation begin!

Yay for expansion. This is exciting. I do think UA is getting a bit more Panhellenic-spirited, so that should help the two new sororities.

Based on information from the UA Panhellenic, and reported back to the individual chapters, expansion has been approved. I guess we'll have to see how many expansion opportunities there will be (one or two).

how exciting!! you bama ladies must keep us informed, please.

bamamama, typically when a new group is colonizing on a campus, their national officers/colonization team will give a presentation during the first round of parties or during the pnm information session proor to recruitment, informing pnms of the opportunity of being a member of a colony. they would then hold events following formal recruitment.

a moratorium on cob events is usually honored for a few weeks, in order for the sorority to select its colonists and get them up and running. after that time period, those chapters who did not pledge quota or are not at total may hold cob events.

slightly off topic:

everybody is talking in terms of 3 orgs presenting. but when schools plan on having 2 groups colonize do they usually invite more than 3 groups to present? the idea of having 3 groups present for 2 spots sounds kind of silly to me, especially if one of the groups selected decides to drop out of presenting.

While it is possible for a group to decide to drop out of the running, for some reason I'm having a hard time imagining that it'll happen at such a desirable campus like 'Bama.

Not to be a debbie downer but it seems that if they do let 2 new orgs colonize they will do so with the assumption that one will not make it. It happened to Sigma Kappa in the '80s and GPhiB, which has been there for 20 years, is still not at total (although it seems that they are very close thanks to their great recruitment this year!) UA panhellenic is so big into tradition and I just don't see a large number of girls, or at least large enough to fill up two new orgs, intereted in a chapter that didn't have tradition on the UA campus. Just look at all the talk about the first circle, old row stuff in that UA recruitment thread. I'd just hate to be one of the two competing for those first few pledge classes. Talk about cut throat :eek:

I don't know - when Arkansas was open a couple of years ago 2 out of the 3 invited to present dropped out. I wish that wouldn't happen but I guess the timeline is so quick sometimes that groups submit for consideration before they have a chance to run the numbers and really analyze if it is the right time and place for them.

I wonder what it is about the campus culture at Auburn that's enabled their recolonizations to succeed where Bama's historically haven't for the most part. Obviously, tradition and what-not are big deals at both schools, and there are PNMs at both who'd sooner commit ritual suicide than accept a bid from a group they thought was beneath them, but at Auburn recolonizing apparently doesn't carry a stigma—at least three or four of their sororities have left campus, then come back and done really well.

I'm sure the fact that Auburn doesn't have the huge sorority houses like Bama does help somewhat. You don't have quite as much pressure to come back HUGE because you have a house to fill. Of course, I could be totally wrong.

the auburn chapters are huge despite not having houses. a small chapter would not survive at auburn.

Yes but you don't have to put up the extra expense of building/renting/whatever the house. You can put all that into recruiting/PR. I didn't mean a 30 member chapter could survive there, obviously - more that you don't have to begin above & beyond eveyone else just so you can pay off the house.

Well, try telling that to the Auburn groups when they move in the new dorms and their chapter room rent goes from $8000 to $40,000.....

Here's an article about expansion from the Crimson White.

They got the dates wrong for the last sorority expansion at UA. A commenter got the facts right below the article. Go CW! :rolleyes:

The CW never gets anything right.

Ouch!

Delta Gamma re-colonizing at The University of Alabama
 

I am a currently active Delta Gamma at the University of Southern Mississippi... and i'm only a freshman. I am thinking about transferring to the University of Alabama next year, and I was also wondering about these rumors that DG was recolonizing up there. I'm from Mobile, Alabama.... I was wondering if these rumors were true, and how I would fit in to helping this happen?:)

The University has requested information packets from any NPC groups interested in colonizing there. Based on that response, groups will be invited to make a presentation on campus. After that, the UA Panhellenic will vote on who to invite to colonize in time for '08-'09 school year. You can probably bet good money that if - and when - Delta Gamma returning to UA is a done deal, it will show up here within 30 minutes of the announcement!

Are there any new developments in Tuscaloosa? ;) :)

Delta Gamma, Alpha Xi Delta and Alpha Phi are presenting in February.

how exciting!! please keep us informed.

good luck to all three sororities.

Ditto!

Congratulation to all chosen to present. Although I am going to be rooting for AXiD and a chance to get our Alpha Tau chapter back.