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DSTCHAOS 04-19-2006 10:16 PM

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Originally posted by macallan25
How ridiculous that I post compiled facts into my own report and then someone tries to downplay them by creating some notion that I found them from some non-credible source. I don't know how the US Justice Department fits into that category.
The poster asked if you got that directly from their publication or from the various commentaries of their publications.

When you look at the USDOJ websites and publications, it is difficult to find that exact publication. However, when you Google what you posted, it comes right up in the various articles written on the topic.

ETA: These articles indicate that the info comes from the USDOJ but do not provide a complete citation for the publication.

You could've easily solved this issue by providing a weblink to the publication.

valkyrie 04-19-2006 10:22 PM

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Originally posted by ilikehazing
40% black?

and what, 13-15% of the United States...

hmmm..

is that not what I said earlier?

I'm still waiting for you to tell us what your point was here.

macallan25 04-19-2006 11:24 PM

Step 1: Go to US Department of Justice official website.
Step 2: Search for "Statistics"
Step 3: Use mouse to click on weblink that will show you full statistical breakdowns.
Step 4: Read

I didn't go anywhere else to any other outside sources besides those within this website. Figured that would eliminate some bias.

Quote:

Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
The poster asked if you got that directly from their publication or from the various commentaries of their publications.

When you look at the USDOJ websites and publications, it is difficult to find that exact publication. However, when you Google what you posted, it comes right up in the various articles written on the topic.

ETA: These articles indicate that the info comes from the USDOJ but do not provide a complete citation for the publication.

You could've easily solved this issue by providing a weblink to the publication.


Kevin 04-19-2006 11:49 PM

Mac: Care to provide a link? I don't want to comb through any more DOJ stats.

Rudey 04-20-2006 10:51 AM

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Originally posted by valkyrie
I'm still waiting for you to tell us what your point was here.
It's pretty easy to see the point. He said that in proportion to the racial makeup of the country, there is a higher proportion of African-Americans in jail.

I mean that is if English hasn't changed in the past few days.

-Rudey

DSTCHAOS 04-20-2006 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by macallan25
Step 1: Go to US Department of Justice official website.
Step 2: Search for "Statistics"
Step 3: Use mouse to click on weblink that will show you full statistical breakdowns.
Step 4: Read

I didn't go anywhere else to any other outside sources besides those within this website. Figured that would eliminate some bias.

Crime data is a big part of my career and I have gone through many DOJ publications over the years. I still have a hard time finding the SPECIFIC stats you are referencing.

I'm not saying what you typed was completely fabricated or inaccurate, but just admit that you don't remember the link and can't find it again. If you ever found it in the first place. :)

DSTCHAOS 04-20-2006 12:19 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
It's pretty easy to see the point. He said that in proportion to the racial makeup of the country, there is a higher proportion of African-Americans in jail.
Is that what he said?

That certainly is NOT what that statistic that he quoted is saying.

Kevin 04-20-2006 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
Crime data is a big part of my career and I have gone through many DOJ publications over the years. I still have a hard time finding the SPECIFIC stats you are referencing.

I'm not saying what you typed was completely fabricated or inaccurate, but just admit that you don't remember the link and can't find it again. If you ever found it in the first place. :)

I had the same problem.

Munchkin03 04-20-2006 12:43 PM

When I Googled those exact words, they were only found on the websites of organizations like the "Brotherhood of White Christian Males." The information seems to have been found on the DOJ site, but the way the information was manipulated is problematic.

Pisces84 07-12-2006 12:15 AM

No DNA evidence does not account for why the girls valuable were left askew all over the bathroom and why ALL OF HER NAILS were broken off her fingers. She was fighting SOMEONE.

f8nacn 07-12-2006 12:23 AM

Why would someone who wasn't raped cry rape. THat is serious! I don't think she wasn't assaulted...its just that these men who did it to her were smart in the sense that they knew to "clean up all loose ends"...but then again that's just assuming that she is right. No one's character deserves to be defamed; however, nor shall another person who is possibly a victim, be criticized and chastised too...Something happened that caused her to go to the hospital/police and make a report. I choose to believe that she didn't premeditate on getting the players season cancelled...If she did, that was just below the belt in selfishness and revenge.

Drolefille 07-12-2006 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by f8nacn
Why would someone who wasn't raped cry rape. THat is serious!


I'm just emphasizing that.

I'm not making any judgements on this situation... that said.. too many women cry rape when it wasn't rape.

It is, in my mind, one of the most disgusting things that can be done. Whether it was because of drunken sex that she regrets, but was not forced into. Or because she wants to get back at him. Or for a settlement check. Or WHATEVER.

THERE IS NEVER AN EXCUSE.

Men can often be convicted in these cases without true evidence of rape beyond the testimony of the victim. Who's a jury going to feel bad for, the "alleged rapist" or the crying victim?

No one deserves to go to jail and be stigmad for life because of some petty rivalry or fight.

That said, it DOES happen, unbelievable as it may seem.

macallan25 07-12-2006 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Pisces84
No DNA evidence does not account for why the girls valuable were left askew all over the bathroom and why ALL OF HER NAILS were broken off her fingers. She was fighting SOMEONE.

That doesn't mean she was fighting someone at all. She could easily have been banging her boyfriend in the bathroom and had a "rough" session. What is your point with this by the way?

Drolefille 07-12-2006 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macallan25
That doesn't mean she was fighting someone at all. She could easily have been banging her boyfriend in the bathroom and had a "rough" session. What is your point with this by the way?

Also, I thought there was a video proving some of her nails were broken BEFORE the incident.


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