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PKTKKG 01-05-2006 06:03 PM

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Originally posted by RACooper
Well rest assured, graduates of BJU can always find some employment elsewhere... like perhaps being appointed Ambassador to Canada:rolleyes:

It's nice to see the anti-Catholic bias hasn't slipped into his diplomatic dealings up here... oh wait a tic, silly me it has...

LOL!! Wish we could have just sent some grits or soul food instead!!

LXA SE285 01-05-2006 07:53 PM

At Samford University, where my sister went to school (and which, incidentally, has a strong Greek system), you have to attend a certain number of convocations (i.e., chapel services and religious or cultural events) in order to graduate. They even scan your student ID to make sure you attended.

http://www.samford.edu/groups/ministries/convoques.html

zetamere 01-05-2006 09:03 PM

I've been to Bob Jones and it's the strangest college campus I've ever been on. I went while I was in college as part of a classical music tour through the Southeast. Our professor had a former student who was teaching there and she invited us to perform. We all had to bring along special clothes just to wear on campus. As a cellist we always wore trousers when we performed but couldn't while there. Not fun. You couldn't touch a person of another sex and bible study was almost mandatory even for visitors. Yes, these kids know what they are getting into when they go but it's still a creepy place. The original Bob is practically a god on campus, he's buried on the grounds as I remember.

Xylochick216 01-05-2006 09:29 PM

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Originally posted by dznat187

Liberty is more of the 'liberal' christian school and allows christian rock, etc. most of the kids from my school who went to christian colleges went here. ive also heard from my boss who went to a school in the same town, that these kids liek to party and could be found at local frat parties. liberty controls the students lives less than BJU and pensacola.

I just have to say that this is the first time I've heard "liberal" and "Liberty" in the same sentence. I live in the town where Liberty is located, and while it's not as strict as Bob Jones, they still control pretty much every aspect of your life. You can get demerits if someone says they see you at a party where alcohol is being consumed. No secular music is allowed in the dorms, and if they find any, then you are given demerits. Women were only recently allowed to wear slacks. You can't go to the library unless you are in "chape dress" (even for members of the public). They just opened a nice ice skating rink in town. Nothing but Christian pop music, and no holding hands on ice. That's a no-no. I still think one of the worst things is the fact that they have spies at all the movie theaters to report if they see any LU kids going into any movies rated over PG-13.

AGDLynn 01-05-2006 09:46 PM

This sounds like if BJU was a country, the US govt might invade to "free" the "students".

Beanblossom1 01-06-2006 02:53 AM

Xylochick216 - I know this sounds stupid, but what is "chape dress". I'm guessing you have to really dress up to go to the library? If so, I never would have made it out of college. :)

Thanks.

Beanblossom1 01-06-2006 03:26 AM

All of the previous posts sparked my interest.......its past 1am and I'm skimming the BJU website. I agree with all of you.......this place is nuts. It sounds like a cult. I understand having rules, but this is to the extreme. I know several people who went to private religious colleges. They had rules, but nothing this extreme.

So how does BJU prepare its students to function in the real world? I thought part of college - in addition to the academic part - was learning how to function independently as a adult. If you can't even pick the type of music you want to listen to in your dorm room, how on earth are you going to be able to make a decision in a corporate work environment. Do these students run to HR every time a coworker has the 'at work network' a bit too loud in their cube? Maybe this is why their graduates have such a hard time securing employment (as mentioned in a previous post).

I respect someone who wants to live their life this way, but at the same time, these students need to learn how to function in the real world.

CarolinaCutie 01-06-2006 12:51 PM

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Originally posted by Beanblossom1
Xylochick216 - I know this sounds stupid, but what is "chape dress". I'm guessing you have to really dress up to go to the library? If so, I never would have made it out of college. :)

Thanks.

I'm assuming she meant "chapel dress"... and while I don't know exactly what that means, I'm certain it means modest dresses for ladies and shirt and tie for men.

LXA SE285 01-06-2006 02:33 PM

Just remembered this about Oral Roberts U.—you have to take PE every semester, the body being a temple and all that. According to a former student (see http://www.bigfatblog.com/archives/000479.php), you have to be able to complete a three-mile run in less than 30 minutes as part of the requirement; if you can't, you more than likely fail the class for that semester (the run is weighted heavily). If you fail more than two semesters of PE, you're asked to leave ORU. Being fat is frowned upon. Back in the ’80s, an overweight woman sued for discrimination after being rejected for admission because of her size.

Rain Man 01-06-2006 04:31 PM

DGMarie: Thanks for the link
 
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Originally posted by DGMarie
http://www.studentsreview.com/SC/BJU_c.html#comments
I have to thank DGMarie for supplying that link. I have (so far) read about 35 pages of student and alumni comments and I have to say that it is very interesting.

Here is one that really caught my eye. This comment came from a female alumnus Class of 2000:

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BJU is the greatest christian institution that can be found. It is here that I learned the true way of life through Jesus! The academics are wonderful and the administation was great.

As far as those in the mainstream media that disagree or have have problems with BJU, you are all gravely mistaken. I feel sorry for you when your sould is burning eternally in hell. So what if the administtration may SEEM overbearing to you who do not agree with them (shame on you for questioning their wisdom) they know what is best for young christians. So what if inter-racial dating is prohibited? Each should keep to their own kind and not mix, for that too is a sin. And who cares if the school is unnacrediited? The only recognition BJU is that of God.

I think that probably those who complain of the school are either heathens, chatholics, jews, (or some other wacky faith-it doesn't matteer you're all going to hell) and are all criticizeing the school fr their own crazy (or zionist) ageda. All I have to say is don't let the fire burn you too bad in your damnation!

BJU is there for God's chosen few, who will be saved during his judegment. God bless BJU!

:eek:
I never knew since I didn't attend BJU I would be labeled a heathen condemned to the Lake of Fire.

Another interesting comment I found:

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Bob Jones University is truly a place where God's hand is at work. After reading many of the other comments it is obvious that many students leave BJU very bitter and and not presently walking under the control of the Holy Spirit. Many of the negative comments made reflect the hearts of individuals who clearly are not walking in fellowship with the Lord Jesus Christ. I spend five years at a Government funded school (that means public college). These were five horrible years where Christ is swept aside and God is truly hated. The liberals and feminists truly have their talons in these state (public) schools. They are of no value to a person who seeks a character reflecting the image of Jesus Christ.
For those who attack the rules this also is another evidence that even in Christian circles their is a great inconsistency among parents and churches. Personally, I place the responsibility on parents who do not raise ther children in accordance with the Bible.
For those who don't understand great docrines of the faith such as justification and sanctification a good dosage of the Bible will do them some good. Sanctify them with thy truth, they word is truth.
For those who seek accredidation. Well its obvious that their motivates are wrong. They do not seek to please GOd but seek to please men. They focus on salaries and the praise of the liberal corporate world. Year after year employers come to BJU seeking people of Christlike character not those seeking to fit in with the world. Oh by the way the majority of the faculty got their advanced degrees away from BJU. I wonder how that happened if grad schools won't accept transcripts from BJU. Think about it the next time BJU is attacked by sinful people.
May the grace and peace of Christ be with you.

I will post other comments if need be.

Tom Earp 01-06-2006 04:40 PM

Wow, talk about a Lot Radical!

Also they must learn about American English and spelling at BJU!

I still liked the Blo JB U that someone mentioned earlier!:D

Lady Pi Phi 01-06-2006 05:03 PM

I certainly question the academics at BJU.

It is apparent from the above comments that students at BJU do not know how to spell or to type.

RedRoseSAI 01-06-2006 05:58 PM

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Originally posted by LXA SE285
Just remembered this about Oral Roberts U.—you have to take PE every semester

Honestly, I don't think that's a half-bad idea. Obesity is on the rise in this country.

RedRoseSAI 01-06-2006 06:01 PM

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Originally posted by Beanblossom1
All of the previous posts sparked my interest.......its past 1am and I'm skimming the BJU website. I agree with all of you.......this place is nuts. It sounds like a cult.

You ain't seen nothin':

Hyles-Anderson College Thread

Beanblossom1 01-06-2006 08:02 PM

RedRoseSAI - Thanks for the link. Looks like its going to be another late night. :) This stuff is absolutely blowing my mind. Can't play cards?! What the.........

smiley21 01-06-2006 09:20 PM

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Originally posted by Beanblossom1
RedRoseSAI - Thanks for the link. Looks like its going to be another late night. :) This stuff is absolutely blowing my mind. Can't play cards?! What the.........
I grew up going to Christian schools. One thing I remember is the rule of not playing cards on school grounds. It promoted gambling. It did not matter if you were playing something innocent like Solitare or Go Fish.

UT_PhiPsi 01-06-2006 11:23 PM

Wow! This thread brings me back to high school. I was raised in a private Christian school (it was a Baptist school, btw) and the comments above seem all too familiar!

In my high school, we were not allowed to wear jeans, we had to wear solid color collared t-shirts...but they couldn't be name-brand (aka, "the horse" wasn't allowed), etc. We weren’t allowed to dance at our "Spring Fling" because it would tempt us to sin. Our schoolbooks were from BJU press...basically, they controlled everything about your life.

I now attend the University of Tennessee. I was one of the few from my small graduating class to go to a public university and now, my Alma Matter has totally disowned me. I am not spoken to when I visit; I am not invited back for homecoming...absolutely crazy! The most frustrating part is that I found out last year that the reason that I had been cut off from my school was not so much that I went to a "secular" school...but because I had joined a Fraternity. I was told by a former teacher that they (the other teachers and she) continue to pray for me to "find Christ" every day.

You can imagine how I felt when I heard that! I am a Christian...my Greek Organization (as with many) is based on Judeo-Christian values...it frustrates me to hear things like this! What I find most amazing is that my organization this semester alone has completed more service hours and raised more money that my former high school has this past year. My former school prides itself on "it's service to the community."

Anyway...I could not imagine having to continue living like this through college. Many of my friends from high school are attending private Christian colleges (some are at Liberty) and apparently they enjoy it. It amazes me though that when I go to visit them they have to be in by 11:00 at night...on the weekends!

Well...now I’m just rambling...but I agree...there is an element of radicalism to these schools!

GO VOLS!

Luke...

pinkiebell1001 01-06-2006 11:48 PM

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Originally posted by smiley21
I grew up going to Christian schools. One thing I remember is the rule of not playing cards on school grounds. It promoted gambling. It did not matter if you were playing something innocent like Solitare or Go Fish.


ooohhh...so i guess uno was banned huh?:P hehe

Beanblossom1 01-07-2006 12:04 AM

Thanks smiley21 on the clarification about playing cards. Gambling never even entered my mind. I guess I was thinking of Uno or Old Maid - ha. And my extent of playing TX Hold-em is with chips instead of real $$$. :)

Erik P Conard 01-07-2006 03:46 AM

that's it!
 
I have been a wonderin' where Frau Blücher has been. It has finally dawned on me...she's a-settin' up a sub-rosa gambling
casino at BJ...

AGDee 01-07-2006 08:23 AM

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Originally posted by smiley21
I grew up going to Christian schools. One thing I remember is the rule of not playing cards on school grounds. It promoted gambling. It did not matter if you were playing something innocent like Solitare or Go Fish.
I wonder if they have to delete Spider Solitaire from their PCs...

AGDLynn 01-07-2006 10:11 AM

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t frustrates me to hear things like this! What I find most amazing is that my organization this semester alone has completed more service hours and raised more money that my former high school has this past year. My former school prides itself on "it's service to the community."


Next time your Chapter does a community service project that mentions how many others they have done, you should make multiple copies and send them to your former teachers....esp. the articles that mention your name..(become Philan. Coord., lol).

KDMafia 01-07-2006 11:25 AM

I would just like to point out that Hyles-Anderson College is literally like three minutes from my house. When I was little and we'd drive by it I would always tell my mom I could go there when I was old enough. I never understood why she always told me no:)

They do have some interesting rules too. They are not allowed to watch the Little Mermaid because it signifies interracil/species relationships. Since she is of course a fish;)

TSteven 01-07-2006 08:51 PM

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Originally posted by UT_PhiPsi
I now attend the University of Tennessee. I am not spoken to when I visit; I am not invited back for homecoming...absolutely crazy!

GO VOLS!

Sounds reasonable to me. So are you sure the reason is not due to the simple fact you attend the University of Tennessee? ;)

GO CATS! :cool:

Xylochick216 01-08-2006 03:28 PM

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Originally posted by Beanblossom1
Xylochick216 - I know this sounds stupid, but what is "chape dress". I'm guessing you have to really dress up to go to the library? If so, I never would have made it out of college. :)

Thanks.

Oops, I meant chapel dress. Like I said before, women were only recently allowed to wear pants.

I think the scariest thing is that students there are rewarded for tattling on others for any sort of infractions. I'd think that would create a pretty hostile environment with people out to get everyone else so they could get praise. It certainly isn't very helpful to report people who watched cable this week rather than doing something useful with your time!

SNOPPY 05-24-2010 08:36 PM

I seen a post in Requards to Hyles Anderson College. Beleive me I know a preacher who taught at this school and now operates a church from a Sunoco Station. He has his whole parish convinced he is a true god, he has the whole parish thinking that Disney, Matel and other name brands are unholy and should be swept from their life for good. As for Catholics he slams them every Sunday comparing them to the Devil. He has even been able to convince some of his parishoners who were catholics to beleive their whole life was a lie until they met him. If you would like to see the Pastors that this church produces just go to you tube and search pastor steve anderson, evben though he is not a graduate he does practice the same religion.

DrPhil 05-24-2010 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SNOPPY (Post 1933910)
I seen a post in Requards to Hyles Anderson College. Beleive me I know a preacher who taught at this school and now operates a church from a Sunoco Station. He has his whole parish convinced he is a true god, he has the whole parish thinking that Disney, Matel and other name brands are unholy and should be swept from their life for good. As for Catholics he slams them every Sunday comparing them to the Devil. He has even been able to convince some of his parishoners who were catholics to beleive their whole life was a lie until they met him. If you would like to see the Pastors that this church produces just go to you tube and search pastor steve anderson, evben though he is not a graduate he does practice the same religion.

Your username should be Sloppy.

crusse10 05-25-2010 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SNOPPY (Post 1933910)
I seen a post in Requards to Hyles Anderson College. Beleive me I know a preacher who taught at this school and now operates a church from a Sunoco Station. He has his whole parish convinced he is a true god, he has the whole parish thinking that Disney, Matel and other name brands are unholy and should be swept from their life for good. As for Catholics he slams them every Sunday comparing them to the Devil. He has even been able to convince some of his parishoners who were catholics to beleive their whole life was a lie until they met him. If you would like to see the Pastors that this church produces just go to you tube and search pastor steve anderson, evben though he is not a graduate he does practice the same religion.

Well...I mean, it's obvious. We are exactly like the Devil. I mean, Catholicism sorta started as the only brand of Christianity, but that's neither here nor there...

MysticCat 05-25-2010 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by crusse10 (Post 1934100)
I mean, Catholicism sorta started as the only brand of Christianity, but that's neither here nor there...

You might not want to say that too loudly around any Eastern Orthodox Christians. ;)

AOII Angel 05-25-2010 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1934130)
You might not want to say that too loudly around any Eastern Orthodox Christians. ;)

I was about to say that about Greek Orthodox...my husband says that all the time!

FSUZeta 05-25-2010 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by crusse10 (Post 1934100)
Well...I mean, it's obvious. We are exactly like the Devil. I mean, Catholicism sorta started as the only brand of Christianity, but that's neither here nor there...

well, technically, when Christianity began, it was pretty much non-denominational.;)

DrPhil 05-25-2010 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by FSUZeta (Post 1934161)
well, technically, when Christianity began, it was pretty much non-denominational.;)

As it should be. :)

crusse10 05-25-2010 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FSUZeta (Post 1934161)
well, technically, when Christianity began, it was pretty much non-denominational.;)

Sorta where I was going. It all sorta went hand-in-hand.

naraht 05-25-2010 02:39 PM

By the time of the Council of Nicea, Christianity had so much spread in belief, it makes the Mormons and the Russian Orthodox look like they are on the same page...

preciousjeni 05-25-2010 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1934130)
You might not want to say that too loudly around any Eastern Orthodox Christians. ;)

Mmhmm...

knight_shadow 05-25-2010 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by preciousjeni (Post 1934714)
Mmhmm...

Hi PJ!

I have nothing else to contribute to this thread :)

Barbie's_Rush 05-25-2010 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1933912)
Your username should be Sloppy.

doink*doink

RU OX Alum 05-25-2010 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by naraht (Post 1934399)
By the time of the Council of Nicea, Christianity had so much spread in belief, it makes the Mormons and the Russian Orthodox look like they are on the same page...

Truth. Anyone else here a Unit/Arian?

RU OX Alum 05-25-2010 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by naraht (Post 1934399)
By the time of the Council of Nicea, Christianity had so much spread in belief, it makes the Mormons and the Russian Orthodox look like they are on the same page...

Truth. Anyone else here a Unit/Arian?

preciousjeni 05-25-2010 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1934721)
Hi PJ!

I have nothing else to contribute to this thread :)

Hey darlin :)


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