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DeltAlum 07-15-2004 05:31 PM

Ah, come on. Athens is one of the greatest college towns in the world! Even if it is haunted.

Actually, I used to haunt a lot of the bars myself.

alphaiota 07-15-2004 06:17 PM

you haunting bars, that's scary enough for me. ;)

shelley j
sigma k

hannahgirl 07-17-2004 08:28 PM

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Originally posted by kappa2
Has anyone ever taken video of things like doors opening and closing mysteriously, etc. in their houses?
yes and no.....

we have taping of the drawers in our kitchen opening themselves and scaring our sisters.....







however, it was only one of our members hidden in the cabinet that was moving them. it was quite funny and we kept it going for a long time. the video makes it look like it really happened because we never caught ashley coming out of the cabinets on tape....

DeltAlum 07-18-2004 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by alphaiota
you haunting bars, that's scary enough for me. ;)

shelley j
sigma k

What's REALLY scary is that I go back and re-haunt a few of them each Homecoming!

axidhawkeye 07-19-2004 12:31 AM

more hauntings
 
my sorority house is supposedly haunted, but i''m not sure if i've really experienced it. some of my sisters and i did attept to see for sure, (as sure as you can get with my ouija board), but were scared out of our minds when a dry erase board came crashing to the floor and we took that as a sign that we should stop. i'm not sure if it's gravity that's to blame or if it's our ghost. none of the older girls would tell me any stories, and the only thing they say is that the stories are really freaky. on campus there's at least 2 other sororities that are haunted and one frat that used to be an old mental institution that performed illigal shock therapy(that's what people have told me), and it's supposely haunted, but i've never been in, given the fact that i'm scared of the building.

this is kind of a random freaky thing - the building that used to be the old mental ward for the hospital, and is now a psych research building, still has some rooms with padded walls. one of the dorms on campus is haunted by 2 girls who committed suicide as a result of a suicide pact, and there are a few buildings that are haunted by the university's first(?) president.

but the oddest attraction by far, i think, in iowa city is the black angel. there's numerous stories as to why it's black, but when ever i go out to see it, something happens and then i start to freak out. maybe it's the cemetery or the people i'm with. i don't know.

SurfinDBeach 07-19-2004 12:42 AM

Okay...
 
Okay, i'm a guy, so therefore i'm not in a Sorority...

However, the TKE house at Long Beach State used to be an AIDS HOSPICE in the early part of the 1900's...

I've slept in the living room on a couch a few times with the door to the back yard open on a cold night...

The only things i've seen are that back door moving slowly, and the FRIGHTENING sound of a moaning girl in the back yard...


I don't want to think of that anymore...


Apparently, Tri-Delta on our campus also has a resident ghost in their house...


GO BEACH!!!

CASIGKAP 07-19-2004 12:52 AM

Re: Okay...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SurfinDBeach
Okay, i'm a guy, so therefore i'm not in a Sorority...

However, the TKE house at Long Beach State used to be an AIDS HOSPICE in the early part of the 1900's...

I've slept in the living room on a couch a few times with the door to the back yard open on a cold night...

The only things i've seen are that back door moving slowly, and the FRIGHTENING sound of a moaning girl in the back yard...


I don't want to think of that anymore...


Apparently, Tri-Delta on our campus also has a resident ghost in their house...


GO BEACH!!!

R U serious??? Oh My GOD!!! I'd be freaking out. What a coincidence b/c I just found out yesterday that the Sigma Kappa house in LB used to be a hospice for the elderly. Our Corp board told my yesterday during our house clean-up. That might explain why some areas of the house are just very peaceful & relaxing for no apparent reason & others just creep you out. I could never figure out why I didn't like going to the back of the house but now I know. WOW!!! I hadn't heard about the Tri-Delt house before.

aphibeach 07-19-2004 01:31 AM

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so wait...i'm confused...what happened to curtis? was he caught?
Curtis is in jail waiting for the trial to begin. the second murderer was the one who drove off the ravine and died (during the car chase)

trust me, all the incoming freshmen know about what happened, so there's no way of "keeping this" from them. murders have never happened on our campus before May and every paper in NC had some sort of article on it, since the first girl killed was from Raleigh and the murderer was from Charlotte (which are the two biggest cities in the state).

SurfinDBeach 07-19-2004 01:33 AM

yep
 
Tri-Delt apparently has an old man in their house...

Now that's scary...

GO BEACH!!!

SurfinDBeach 07-19-2004 02:04 AM

Frightening...
 
Did I mention that these stories from North Carolina are absolutely disturbing?

Thank goodness we have a mellow campus...


GO BEACH!!!

collme83 07-19-2004 02:48 AM

The old house mom who worked for us for decades until she died(Mrs. T) haunts our house, especially the room right above her old apartment. She flicks the lights on and off, she opens and closes doors. She's also appeared in the mirrors of the room right above her old apartment and she's been known to talk to the girls in that room while they're trying to sleep!

pi phi love,
...colleen*

collme83 07-19-2004 02:52 AM

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Originally posted by lyrica9
um that's highly illegal of that paper, and i hope they're taken to court. even if the mom hadn't specified to keep her daughter's name out of it, there are still ethical and legal issues surrounding that sort of situation that should have kept that paper from printing that information.
but because she did specify to leave it out and they didn't comply, they could be accused of libel if taken to court.


You can only sue for Libel if something was untrue. It may have been wrong for the paper to include the name ethically but i'm pretty sure you can't sue unless it was false information. Technically, papers can include something such as a rape victim's name in an article as well because it's public information, however decide that morally it's not right. savvy?

pi phi love,
...colleen*

preciousjeni 07-19-2004 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by collme83
You can only sue for Libel if something was untrue. It may have been wrong for the paper to include the name ethically but i'm pretty sure you can't sue unless it was false information. Technically, papers can include something such as a rape victim's name in an article as well because it's public information, however decide that morally it's not right. savvy?

pi phi love,
...colleen*

If the police tell a paper not to print names, though, it is illegal for the paper to do so. I wonder if that happened in this case?

JupiterTC 07-19-2004 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by aphibeach
Curtis is in jail waiting for the trial to begin. the second murderer was the one who drove off the ravine and died (during the car chase)

trust me, all the incoming freshmen know about what happened, so there's no way of "keeping this" from them. murders have never happened on our campus before May and every paper in NC had some sort of article on it, since the first girl killed was from Raleigh and the murderer was from Charlotte (which are the two biggest cities in the state).

I've heard a lot about it in the news ( I live in Burlington). A girl was raped at Elon in the late 80s, but I don't remember which sorority she was in. She accused the wrong guy because he only looked like the rapist and the police arrested him. Years later they finally found the right guy, and released the other guy from jail.

LionTamer 07-19-2004 09:42 AM

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However, the TKE house at Long Beach State used to be an AIDS HOSPICE in the early part of the 1900's...
I'm guessing it was a TB hospice or sanitarium - there used to be a lot of those out West (where the air was "better").

At Penn State, we had boring dorms for the sororities, and houses that started out as fraternities for the guys. The only ghosts I heard about was the ghost of "Old Coaly", a donkey that used to live on campus- not exactly terrifying.

We have, however, had a bunch of very creepy unsolved murders/disappearances - a girl raped and killed on her way from the bus station in the 40s, a grad student stabbed in the heart in the library stacks in the late 60s, someone stabbed in her apartment in the 90s, and, a few years ago, a Korean student simply vanished.

The murder in the library stacks has become legendary, and is often used to frighten freshmen...

DeltAlum 07-19-2004 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by preciousjeni
If the police tell a paper not to print names, though, it is illegal for the paper to do so.
Actually, I don't think that's true. Police can request, but not compel a news organization not to publish/broadcast something. Also, to be libel, there has to be proof not only that the information is false, but that it was published with full knowledge the information is wrong and intent to injure the other party. It is very hard to prove.

ETA:

"there are still ethical and legal issues surrounding that sort of situation that should have kept that paper from printing that information."

Again, there are not legal issues with publishing a rape victim's name unless a court has so ordered. Most newspapers and broadcast organizations will not, generally, identify a rape victim because they feel it's unethical -- but it is not a legal issue. Under some very special circumstances, news organizations do name victims as well as suspects.

The Kobe Bryant trial here in Colorado is a good case in point. A Tabloid ID'd the alleged victim, but mainline news media here in Denver still haven't used her name to the best of my knowledge.

aphibeach 07-19-2004 11:37 AM

Quote:

've heard a lot about it in the news ( I live in Burlington). A girl was raped at Elon in the late 80s, but I don't remember which sorority she was in. She accused the wrong guy because he only looked like the rapist and the police arrested him. Years later they finally found the right guy, and released the other guy from jail.
i used to go to Elon.....i remember hearing about that. now Elon has some scary ghost stories. i know of one from when i went there. before Elon was Elon, it was an all girl's school. a fire broke out in the early 1900s in one of the dorms and a few girls ended up dying. the school rebuilt the section of the dorm that burned down and i had friends who told me that at the same time every night, they would hear footsteps running up and down the hallways on the third floor. they would go out in the hall to see what was going on and the window that leads to the fire escape would be wide open. the girls on the floor did some research and learned that the time these footsteps would be heard was the time the fire broke out and the reason the window kept opening was the ghosts trying to get out of the burning building.

PM_Mama00 07-19-2004 02:03 PM

Ugh this is so creepy. This is the guy who did the Michigan Murders.

http://www.state.mi.us/mdoc/asp/otis...cNumber=126833

preciousjeni 07-19-2004 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PM_Mama00
Ugh this is so creepy. This is the guy who did the Michigan Murders.

http://www.state.mi.us/mdoc/asp/otis...cNumber=126833

Sometimes I look at criminals like him and wonder why people couldn't fight him off. I'm not meaning AT ALL to sound crass or inconsiderate. He just looks so pathetic, you know?

lyrica9 07-19-2004 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by collme83
You can only sue for Libel if something was untrue. It may have been wrong for the paper to include the name ethically but i'm pretty sure you can't sue unless it was false information. Technically, papers can include something such as a rape victim's name in an article as well because it's public information, however decide that morally it's not right. savvy?

pi phi love,
...colleen*

ok, we just covered this in my news reporting class, and the official standing on libel is that when you interview someone, and they ask for something, such as a name, to not be printed, that is a verbal contract that is binding, and if that information is printed, even though her name is factual, it is still considered libel.

Again, there are not legal issues with publishing a rape victim's name unless a court has so ordered. Most newspapers and broadcast organizations will not, generally, identify a rape victim because they feel it's unethical -- but it is not a legal issue. Under some very special circumstances, news organizations do name victims as well as suspects.

actually, a rape victims name is sensitive information, especially in a case such as this, and if there is any chance of releasing their name having an effect such as in this case, then the paper is not supposed to.
they never have to identify someone like that.

SigPhiSunshine 07-19-2004 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AGDee
He was a student at EMU at the time and was a sociopath, but he wasn't mentally retarded. He was in a fraternity. You can read some bits and pieces about him on this site:

John Norman Collins

I've read as much as I can about this guy...



ok thanks for the info

DeltAlum 07-20-2004 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lyrica9
actually, a rape victims name is sensitive information, especially in a case such as this, and if there is any chance of releasing their name having an effect such as in this case, then the paper is not supposed to.
they never have to identify someone like that.

That's true, but in most cases (I think there are now some rape shield laws in some states), this is a matter of professional ethics, not the law. That's a very big difference. Thankfully, most legitimate news organizations do try to protect the victim.

ok, we just covered this in my news reporting class, and the official standing on libel is that when you interview someone, and they ask for something, such as a name, to not be printed, that is a verbal contract that is binding, and if that information is printed, even though her name is factual, it is still considered libel.

I'd like to see some documentation on that. I can see it IF the reporter AGREES not to use the name and then does -- but I don't think that one person can form a contract without the other person agreeing.

Libel is extremely difficult to prove, and was made so by the framers of the laws in order to give some amount of freedom to the News Media -- and that was so the "Free Press" could/can act as a watchdog over government as well as other parts of society.

I'm not sure what this has to do with hauntings, but it's an interesting discussion.

AXOKatie 07-20-2004 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by DeltAlum

I'm not sure what this has to do with hauntings, but it's an interesting discussion.

Amen, i want to hear more about the fun scary stuff....there needs to be a legal forum here on the site

greekgirl1983 07-21-2004 02:01 AM

does anyone know....
 
i remember seeing a show on fox family(now abc family) when i was younger. It was one of those real scary story shows that went to haunted places.
well...in one show they had a segment on a university where apptly in the late 1800s to early 1900s a girl lived in a dorm room, and was making hot fudge(or something like that) and somehow her room got set on fire and she died. And apparently the room was restored and everything, but the door that was put on had a screaming face in the wood(not carved into it..but it looked like it was natural), so they took the door down and put up a new one, but that one had the face too. I think they ended up putting a steel door up or something, but they kept the other door in storage.
does anyone know what college this is?

texas*princess 07-21-2004 02:26 AM

Re: does anyone know....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greekgirl1983
i remember seeing a show on fox family(now abc family) when i was younger. It was one of those real scary story shows that went to haunted places.
well...in one show they had a segment on a university where apptly in the late 1800s to early 1900s a girl lived in a dorm room, and was making hot fudge(or something like that) and somehow her room got set on fire and she died. And apparently the room was restored and everything, but the door that was put on had a screaming face in the wood(not carved into it..but it looked like it was natural), so they took the door down and put up a new one, but that one had the face too. I think they ended up putting a steel door up or something, but they kept the other door in storage.
does anyone know what college this is?

.whoa.
that's super creepy!

Cluey 07-21-2004 02:40 AM

Re: does anyone know....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greekgirl1983
does anyone know what college this is?
I think I saw that show, too. For some reason, I want to say it was a school in Alabama. Montevallo is the name that keeps popping in my mind, but I could be wrong.

I went to an Alabama storyteller's presentation when I was in college and this was one the stories that kind of stuck in my mind.

greekgirl1983 07-21-2004 03:08 AM

thanks!
 
i went and looked it up after i saw your post..and i think you hit it right on the money!
thanks so much!:D

AXOKatie 07-21-2004 02:06 PM

That story also applies to Ohio U., the girl there was practicing witchcraft and every night a glow would emanate from her room and the other students would hear her moaning/chanting...then on Halloween night, they heard screaming and then it suddenly stopped...they found her dead in room surrounded by magic paraphenalia and conjuring materials, they said that she tried to contact Satan...and then people claimed after that they could see a demonic face in the wood grain of the door and no one would live there...it's now where the water heaters are and other equipment

greekgirl1983 07-21-2004 02:51 PM

katie
 
thanks...i did see an episode about that one too, but the one i'm thinking about i remember them specifically saying that her room had caught on fire because she was cooking fudge.
cluey hit it on the money. i went to go look it up earlier...didn't find alot about it, but this is a link to one site.

be warned..it only has a line or two about it:P

http://www.geocities.com/parapsyse_a...ed_s_list.html

thanks so much though! that one freaked me out too:P

greekgirl1983 07-21-2004 03:56 PM

did some more research earlier...
 
here's another article on the door with the face:

Main Residence Hall
(University of Montevallo)
By Dr. Frank McCoy

Condie Cunniham’s is a tragic story . The telling of it has all the elements of a Friday the 13th or one of the more recent horror movies. It seems that at the turn of the century, she was a student living in main Residence Hall. It was and still is today a female residence hall. She and some of the other girls were fixing a hot chocolate over a burner and it tipped over. Condie’s gown caught fire. As the fire marshal tells us, the worst thing you can do when you are on fire is run, and that is exactly what Condie did. She ran down the hall. Subsequently, she died at the local hospital.

The legend of Condie flows from that, and it becomes more bizarre as students began to see in the wood grain panel to the door to her room the image of a woman screaming. Her hair was on fire, and the flames were shooting up. There were maintenance people who claim that they have seen the image too. It wasn’t just students who saw her. A few years ago, somebody decided to put the door in storage to put the school at ease. What happened was, the ghost reappeared in the new door. So it’s a classic kind of story. Even today, you can talk to students who swear that Condie came into their room. She’s been known to go into the shower areas and scream her head off.

Some students have felt wind when the windows were closed. They have seen the carpet on the threshold of her room ripple as if someone walked into the room. Or they’ll tell the story of a door opening, and there won’t be anyone there. Now there is probably a rational explanation. It’s an old building, and it is probably settling. There are images in clouds called pseudo morphs, and if the brain is looking for something, it will see it. And another person comes along, and they believe you. The girls say when she roams the hall, she doesn’t do it quietly. She runs and screams through the halls as if she is still on fire. One student said Condie is coming back because she is trying to livie vicariously through the young students in the hall.

It’s a scary building if you approach it at night. According to everybody that’s seen it, the image is still on the door. I saw it twenty years ago. The girls often will hold initiations, and one part of it is you’ve got to go see Condie’s door, and it’s leaning against the wall in a storage closet. It happened in the central part of the building. The wings were added later. Nobody lives in that room now because of Condie. From the standpoint of fire hazards in the early 20th century, I would say yes. From my experience teaching in various colleges, I would have to say that most female dorms have ghosts. I’m not sure if there is any proof or not.

you can find this article and pictures(2 of the door, one of the actual building) at:

http://facstaff.uwa.edu/ab/mainresid.htm

you can see the image..but the face is hard to make out because the pics aren't close up, and the lighting kind of sucks. definetely freaky though!

alphaiota 07-21-2004 09:51 PM

yeah the ohio u witchcraft story has been featured on at least one documentary i've seen. beyond scary to me. any time you deal with witchcraft or satanic stuff, you're asking for trouble.

shelley j
sigma k

IheartAphi 07-22-2004 09:38 AM

Our old sorority house was broken into (it was a four bedroom real house)

My sisters were in the kitchen when some homeless guy on crack walks up and kick boxes the door in. He turned around and ran. It was 7 am and 5 girls with no coffee or makeup. Its too much for a robber to handle.

IheartAphi 07-22-2004 09:42 AM

oops

greekgirl1983 07-23-2004 09:06 AM

lmao! i guess i'd probably run too;) hehe

that's definetely scary though:(

WVU alpha phi 11-21-2004 02:24 AM

My sorority house is one of the oldest houses in Morgantown. It's been a school house (waaaay back when), a funeral home, and eventually a residence for a woman. (One of my sisters wrote a paper on this and researched the whole subject). Anyways, apparently the woman, Mrs. Wells, had 10 kids who all passed away for one reason or another, then she hung herself in the closet of what is now our "yellow room."
We've had an addition put onto our house, but about 15 girls still live on the old side. The girls say all the time that they hear whispering and footsteps late at night. Also, we have a piano in our formal room, and girls have heard it being played before. Our house isn't airconditioned, and it can be boiling in August and September. One of the sisters was sleeping with a few fans on, and they kept turning off in the middle of the night. Finally she was like, "Mrs. Wells, I'm really hot, please stop." and the fans stayed on the rest of the night. They also say that when they all pack up to leave for breaks, they can hear a faint crying. Like Mrs. Wells considers the in-house girls to be her children, leaving her.

Freaky stuff.

KatieKate1244 11-21-2004 03:39 AM

I don't know of any hauntings in any of the fraternity houses (the sororities don't have housing of any sort). However, the building on my campus that houses the administration, financial aid, admissions, etc, is said to be haunted by history professors whom all died of cancer, as their offices were in that building and asbestos was abundent (still is). Also, we have railroad tracks in front of our school, and I think it was a chemisty professor was drunk and depressed and was hit by a train.

ACTDXDeltaDeut 11-21-2004 04:52 AM

In terms of ghost stories:

I live in one of the oldest fraternity houses on campus, it was built in the 1920s, so it has a lot of history. Apparently its survived fires, seen several remodels and even a couple pets. As far as one ghost goes -- my room was apparently home to a cat. Occasionally you can hear a faint mewing and a low purr and then not hear it for a couple days before it comes back.

Also, some bros claim they see the ghosts of long dead alumni skulking the halls, shaking their heads disapprovingly if we pass something they would not approve or if the house is not clean enough. I'd believe it though, considering I was talking to an alumni today who was rather distraught over the wall panelling not being polished and saying how some of his deceased bros would be in a rage over it. The chapter wing of the house that burned down in the 60s also gets really hot and toxic, smoke-like fumes pour out of the vents for no reason at all, particularly in the room it started. We've checked them and there is no reason or logic for it. Nothing is wrong with the vents.

Fun facts:

We had an Abercrombie & Fitch shoot on our front porch and in some of our rooms back in 2000, and several scenes from the Graduate were shot in our house -- featuring many real bros at the time and our house dog... actually taking a dump.

In terms of Berkeley; the faculty club here is haunted by an elderly man -- but apparently his ghost is a gregarious, benevolent one.

queequek 11-21-2004 09:18 PM

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Originally posted by ACTDXDeltaDeut

We had an Abercrombie & Fitch shoot on our front porch and in some of our rooms back in 2000, and several scenes from the Graduate were shot in our house -- featuring many real bros at the time and our house dog... actually taking a dump.

LOL I didn't know that they were real brothers. It is amazing, tho. How about the A&F models, are they brothers as well? ;)

Optimist Prime 11-21-2004 10:31 PM

A porn movie was shot in one of our chapter houses. Campus Invasion #something random, I don't know. Also, some serial killer was a brother for a little bit but was asked to leave his chapter. This was before he was a serial killer.

SigPhiSunshine 11-21-2004 10:54 PM

we recently moved into an old house and our house is haunted. in the basement apartment, when the ghost doesnt like something that is sitting on top of the tv, she throws it across the room. usually they are candles and things like that. the other night, me, my roomate and another sister were sitting in my living room at 5am playing on the computer and all of a sudden our tv and cable box shut off, but everything else in the 6-way were still working.

another time we had some candles lit when we were quizzing our pledges, 2 of them were doing wonderful, but when the third one wasnt doing so hot, the candles got VERY dim. and it happened everytime we had the one pledge in the room. when she left the room, they got brighter again, and one of my sisters commented "something/someone around here doesnt like her" and another sister suggested that one of our dead sisters were in the room and didnt approve of her.


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