Walmart and Caesars just dropped her. Shit's gettin' real, y'all.

http://m.deadline.com/2013/06/paula-...nt-today-show/

Kate Gosselin's response:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3497771.html

It sucks that the photo was supposedly taken from her computer. Her response and the comments section are examples of why I do not call individuals racist. "Racist" and "racism" are magical words that make people miss the larger point that SHOULD be made. To respond to Kate's comments, yes, eversince interracial humping and unions have existed, there have been people who hold biased viewpoints against their hump partner's or life partner's racial, ethnic, or cultural group. Their hump partner or spouse is considered "different than the rest" and/or "he/she doesn't mind my racial slurs, why do you care." It's the same as "some of my bestfriends are (insert group)." Yes, you can have biracial or multiracial children and still hold prejudice views against that very same group(s) of people. You can also make disparaging racial, ethnic, and cultural remarks towards your children--sometimes disguised as cutesy inside jokes. Hell, there have always been people who hate their own racial, ethnic, and cultural group so why is it so difficult for people to grasp hating another racial, ethnic, cultural group with which the people you love are affiliated?

Whether or not K.G. is "racist" would depend on whether her stupid joke shapes her behaviors.

I thought it was just me. FSUZeta, would you mind translating that blog(?) for us? What do you interpret him to be saying? I only gathered the "you're from the Deep South...I'm Black and not mad..." part of it.

It didn't even occur to me that she was talking about Pittypat's Porch, though it makes perfect sense. I remember it from 30 years ago.

Not FSUZeta, but what I got from it was that he was less disaapointed about her use of the N-word (and I did like his Avenue Q reference -- "Everyone's a Little Bit Racist") and more disappointed that as the supposed maven of Southern cooking, she failed to talk about or acknowledge where Southern foods came from and the sources that made Southern cuisine what it is. He described this as part of a larger problem where a lack of diverse voices about Southern food leads some to write enslaved Africans and their descendants out of the story.

It did get a bit dense, rambly and hard to follow at times, but I there was some worthwhile stuff in there.

Don't worry--"It's handled."

Paula Deen Hires Smith & Co., Inspiration for ABC's "Scandal."

No, I don't think he fails to see it. I think his style of writing may be such that it's a little hard to follow, but I think he gets that. I think it's more of a focusing on the use of the N-word and the like is missing (ignoring? avoiding?) the bigger picture.


So did others see that Paula Deen has also enlisted the help of Jesse Jackson?

For some people, myself included, this was never just about "the N-word and the like". I disagree with the writer about the bigger picture(s) but I believe we can multitask enough to discuss the origins of Southern cuisine (not everyone cares) and the other things that writer was talking about.


That was mentioned on CNN this morning. Wendy Williams gets on my nerves sometimes but her show yesterday had some good points. Bill Burr on Conan O'Brien also had some good points. Paula Deen should have skipped the "I'm a sign of the times" and fake tears (as far as I am concerned) routine.

I really like Jesse Jackson but, while he and other well known people of the African diaspora have been the voice for the communities, they are not our leaders. LOL. Hiring Smith & Co. (Judy Smith is the inspiration for "Scandal"--the show I lost my Black Card over since I've never watched a full episode) and getting help from Rev. Jesse Jackson just remind me of "some of my bestfriends are Black...."

Paula Deen will not lose her entire empire. She will ultimately be fine. She will hopefully learn to breathe easy and stop being so amused with herself. None of this is just a result of her admitting to saying the N-word.

http://youtu.be/wdrvNeuc7jY

White power flour?

We need to stop typing before they sic Huck and/or Quinn on us

I see it more as "I'm not racist because my Blacks don't give me domestic help. I not only admit they know more than I do but then pay them good money to pull my ass out of the fire." Same sentiment but a little more ballsy.

Please, enough on Paula Deen. Alex Baldwin rampages again on tweeter and catches no heat!

While she grew up in the South, times have changed. How long ago did she actually mention the no no word?

Oh....

From what I understand it was only a couple of years ago.

The bank robbery was in 1987.

I found a really interesting article on the subject. If you still feel after reading this that her off-handed use of an off-color (excusing the pun) word 20 years ago is the issue and are supporting her anyway, then you need to out yourself for what you really are.

http://blacklegalissues.com/Article_...lid=7dfdbe0461

That is an interested article. Thank you for sharing that! Some of that I did not even know.

Good article and interesting comments section. There are other news sources (and posts in this thread) that outlined the allegations beyond a racial slur. But, people wanted this to be about a racial slur said 30 years ago. Deen's supporters will be her supporters and they have every right. I do not believe in shaming people based of their support for certain things. To do so would encourage inauthenticity and acting. There is enough inauthenticity and acting in the world.

It will be interesting to see what happens with the lawsuit. If the allegations are true, THAT should be what to focus your support/non-support of Deen. I hope they are not, not because I care about Deen (I prefer the Lee Brothers and Southern Living for my southern cookbooks) , but because being treated like that would be HORRIBLE. Hope the truth becomes known and punishment falls where it should.

Oh is right. Does this clown think we are dumb?

It was hard to hold back on the smilies, huh Tom?

Tom replaced UVA17? You all shouldn't have kicked UVA17 out. :(

No fair! No fair, no fair!
~ Gage, Pet Semetary (1989)


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Deen's accuser:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/01/showbi...ser/index.html

I really doubt UVA17 is Tom, and last I checked, UVA wasn't banned.

He/she may have decided against posting considering the thinly veiled threats to out him/her and ruin his/her rush prospects. I really gotta hand it to some here, threatening young people like that because you disagree with them on the internet. Classy.

No, but ibis is Tom.

FWIW, I didn't read any posts as threatening to ruin her rush prospects (which I agree has happened here in the past). I read the posts as warning her that she wasn't as anonymous as she might think and that she might be hurting her chances herself. That was certainly the motivation behind my post.

I didn't even see ibis... I guess they were deleted? I understand why Tom was banned in the first place, but considering what happened occurred a number of years ago and the guy is still a pretty influential and well known member of a major national fraternity, I wouldn't mind seeing him back. I doubt we'd see a repeat of the OTW or HPRL incidents.

As far as what you said, I don't think you were making any sort of veiled threat, but this:

That looked to me like a threat. For PNMs or others who come here to discuss things, we ought to not be so quick to threaten or even allow these sorts of threats. Although, I'd be interested to know the process one would undertake to figure out what sort of real name belongs to a rando on the internet named UVA17.

The ibis post is still there. He's been around under that name for a while, but he doesn't post often.

Fair enough, though I didn't read it that way. As far as figuring out who she might be, though, she gave her name (not a common one) in her intro post, and she had the town she's from as her location. Assuming both were accurate, and assuming her username indicates UVa Class of '17, it wouldn't be that hard to ID her at ZUVa, I don't think.

I wrote it - not a threat but as I clearly said, advice. Calling sorority alumnae "menopausal shrews", amongst other things, is just not a good idea. It's hardly, what's the word, Kevin, "classy". I am not a GC detective, but I know plenty on this site who are, and I know of at least 3 cases where recruitments were negatively impacted. A threat would have been "I AM GOING TO RUIN YOUR RECRUITMENT". I made her aware of possible consequences of her very negative postings. I may well have saved her disrespectful derriere. She had posted enough information (perhaps she's deleted it now) that even incompetent GC detective that I am I could have figured out how many pnms from her hometown with her name were going through recruitment at UVA - I wouldn't be surprised if she was the only one. I'd hope my GC on-line presence is such that you would realize I am all about pnms having successful recruitments.

I'm sure that's what you intended and I know what you're about, but surely you can see where your ordinary PNM might perceive it as a threat.

I'd hope an ordinary PNM would have enough common sense not to start insulting members of the groups she hopes to join!

Yep. The warnings/advice/threats/whatever didn't come because people disagreed with her. They came because of her rudeness towards people with whom she disagreed.

Kevin, UVA17 didn't DISAGREE with board members; she just came out swinging with insults. She never made one coherent statement or took any position other than to insult and call names. I made a couple of comments (as did a few other GCers) to remind her that the internet is not as anonymous a place as an 18 year old might think. I certainly wouldn't interfere negatively with someone's recruitment. I think I've even gone on record somewhere her on GC that I wouldn't no rec a girl unless she was a felon or the like.

You do know this is GC, right?

I completely agree with you. Sometimes what people call "thinly veiled threats" are warnings to wake up a PNM before she screws herself up. She can take it as a threat all she wants. We aren't the ones she should be afraid of...it's people from her school that may be lurking. She isn't the first and won't be the last PNM with Internet bravado to think that the anonymity of a username would protect her from bad behavior on the Internet. We hate to see people have bad outcomes even if it's because of their own doing. The people warning this PNM aren't the type of people that go running to hunt down PNMs, but we've all seen it happen and would like to stop it before it gets to that point.

Alleged plot to extort Paula Deen exposed:

http://www.today.com/food/alleged-pl...est-6C10551940

And here's dude's facebook page! https://www.facebook.com/thomas.paculis

I love when I google people in the news and it pays off!

I cannot believe that there is any possibility that UVA17 is really a PNM. "She" doesn't write or express herself like any teenager that I have ever come into contact with. "She" has revealed way, way, way too much personal information for any of it to be real. This person is clearly an adult, and one that I think has been on GC for quite a while.

Paula Deen is getting her ass kicked, some of it fairly and some of it unfairly.

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I thought something seemed non-teen and non-PNM about certain things UVA17 typed. And it is way too GC Race War Cliche' for a self-proclaimed biracial PNM who can pass for (insert race) to come here acting silly.

I just hope that other biracial PNM (what's the username?) who started a thread about wanting to fit in isn't also a sockpuppet. That other PNM seems cool.

We have to get a like button for this site.

I've had the same suspicions. But the fact that she registered and asked the ribboning question months ago seemed to suggest maybe she's for real. I dunno.

I don't get a sock puppet vibe from her.

UVA17 (age aside) is annoying. And that's that. Not even worthy of a mosquito label. Just annoying. The "menopausal shrew" crack tipped it for me. Although the uninformed comment about Andrew Hacker was amusing. The immaturity came through in her posts. Reason I lean towards her teen status is the typos, suggesting that she uses a phone for all her written communication, and is too lazy to catch and correct errors/mistakes (or didn't care, or didn't know). She did disappear after she was courteously warned that she'd crossed several lines... whatever.

The other PNM seems genuine, and I hope she has a successful recruitment and a positive membership experience.

Paula Deen welcomed back in Texas.

http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=202....google.com%2F

Paula Deen closes restaurant:

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireSto...loses-23186187