and *that* my friends.....is the RW....otherwise known as the Red Wedding.....

you will have to wait until next season (I hope, thought they could do it this season) for the PW...

I also said that this was the make or break episode to see if I will continue to watch the show. They have kept at least 1 more viewer for the next season.

No....Rains of Castremere was perfect, it let Catelyn know that sh*t is about to hit the fan....

Nothing good ever happens when that song plays....NOTHING....also, they should've had the scene with Tywin actually writing the letters that sealed these deals, but perhaps they will take care of that in the next episode....

I agree, the Rains of Castamere was appropriate because it showed the Frey's had chosen a side, the Lannisters. They were always a pretty neutral family. I agree what they did was horrendous, anyone that has read the books knows what happens after that.

I thought it was funny!

Sorry...I was not aware of that meme...otherwise, I would've probably got it....I am rather slow sometimes....

It was certainly a bad night to be a Stark. I'm interested what happens with Jon Snow next. Does he go back for his woman?

Just figured out what PW stands for! Can't wait. I will breathe a sigh of relief when PW happens ... (even if it's just a momentary sigh).

Have to admit....I particularly enjoyed seeing "King" Joffrey be sent off by his grandfather to take a nap.

I haven't watched it yet...I was too busy playing Mass Effect 3....and not finishing it because of the stupid creators and their "final boss" antics.... ::grumbles::

He was sent to bed without his supper. LOL! I loved that scene. Love or hate Tywin Lannister, you have to admit the man is a badass without ever having to raise his voice.

Here's a bad Game of Thrones joke my wife told me yesterday:

The reason George R.R. Martin never tweets is because he killed all 140 characters.

It's so bad, it's awesome

Geeks unite!!!!!

Rains of Castemere was awesome!!!! I knew it was coming and I was still shocked and the pure brutality and the pure end result of it all. My wive didn't know what was coming and she was just silent with her mouth wide open. She did not move until the credit started. She then proceeded to punch my arm and yelled at me about to warning her.

This video is awesome! People reacting & freaking out to the Red Wedding

After buying the books over a year ago, I finally just finished SoS and am now reading FfC. Loved it all so far, and I plan on buying the DVDs soon.

FINALLY! We're going to get introduced to my favorite Westeros family, The Martell's of Dorne!

The Red Viper, Prince Oberyn Martell has been cast.

I shall continue to bump this thread b/c the inner nerd in me is squealing at GoT news and ComicCon this weekend. Woohoo!!!

Game of Thrones racked up 16 Emmy nominations. That's freaking amazing! Among the nominees are Diana Rigg for her portrayal as Lady Olenna Tyrell, Emilia Clark for her portrayal as Danaerys Targaryen and Peter Dinklage for his role as Tyrion Lannister.


In other GoT news, Sherlock actor Mark Gatiss also cast for Season 4 though it hasn't been revealed what role he's playing.

My friends are speculating that Mark is going to be a Greyjoy - most likely Victorian, unless they combine Victorian and Euron into one role (which is also a speculation of a couple of them).

I'm about 1/4 of the way through DwD, and I SO MISSED TYRION in FfC.

I'm now 3/4 if the way through DwD. Can haz life back nahw?

Bumping this thread bc HELlO?!? Lol!

Joffrey. Hahahaha! There aren't enough happy dances or words to express my joy at FiNALLY seeing this jackass get what he deserved. Am I the only one that hates the moniker The Purple Wedding?

Jaime & Cersei. Still creeping me out with their incest BUT the rape scene? Jeez. It wasn't rape in he book. Not sure why the writers decided to make it so for the show.

Jon Snow. I wish his storyline would progress already. Let's get to the damn wilding fight at the wall! Plus I want him to see Ygritte again before... ;)

Tywin is still a badass. The man has power! Enough said.

Tyrion. Love him and can't wait to see his story move forward. It will be good!

So far, Arya and he Hound have provided the best story. Danny has been ok so far. It's moving slow though.

Randomly watching reaction to the Purple Wedding.



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People were smilling and being happy about the death but then when Tyrion was accused by cersei of the murder, people was like oh shit.

It'll be great when HBO has released all of the seasons to be able to just binge watch these things. They are too short.

This series is seriously awesome. However, I really think that Jofferey got off easy with the poisoning.
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I'm just glad Joffrey is dead. His character was downright evil.

What gets me is that the internet is in an uproar over the rape scene with Jamie and Cersei.
Okay, I'm not advocating rape at all, but come on people, how demented is it that Jamie and Cersei, who are BROTHER AND SISTER are having consexual sex and reproducing in the first place!!!!!!!!!!!
The scene in the novel had them having sex, at their sons body (as in the show). The writers changed it from consensual to nonconsensual, either way it would have been demented. Their whole relationship is demented.

What I've read is that people are upset that he raped her (which I get) but the relationship is incest, how is that okay in general. Eww. I don't get it.

You don't understand the difference between consensual and non-consensual sex?

Maybe you need to reread what I said.

I find it IRONIC that people are up in arms over Jamie's rape of Cersei when the relationship is INCESTUOUS in the first damn place!!!!!!

I find their while relationship disturbing and now that he has raped her, even more disturbing. But I never once said that he didn't rape her, don't put words into my mouth. I do know the difference between consensual and nonconsensual. :rolleyes:

I have a feeling that if the writers had done what the book called for, which was consensual sex at the site of their dead son's body, that no one would be pitching a fit.

It changes who Jaime is in a really fundamental way. Jaime loves Cersei in a deep and abiding way. He loves her so much that he betrays his oath as Kingsguard to sleep with the Queen and father her children. He throws a child out of a window to protect he and their children. (She could have been charged with treason and executed for trying to pass her illegitimate children off as the King's children.) He will do anything for her. He would not hurt her, not like that.

Jaime is also a character that hates rape. He hates Robert because Robert rapes Cersei. He protects Brienne from being raped. He's terrified of being raped himself. Jaime wouldn't rape someone.

Jaime's stories in the book moves from being a complete villain to being something less of a villain. Putting a rape in the middle of that character arc derails it.

You are correct. I would not be upset about consensual sex. Depicting gratuitous violence against women on a popular television show is not okay.

I haven't read the books so all my character knowledge is purely from the shows (which lets face it isn't going to be as thorough as the novels).

I'm now wondering how they (the writers) are going to attempt to redeem him (to the fans).

I guess I can now see why the fans are up in arms over what the writers did. It was basically character assassination.

The larger problem is that they are not going to address it as though it was a rape. The director is on record saying it was not rape. It is not okay to perpetuate the idea that if a woman says no, you can just keep going and eventually she will like it. They showed Jamie rape a woman on camera, and all indicators is that they are going to continue to treat his character as a fundamentally good guy in the process of redemption.

I saw comments online somewhere where one of the people attached to the show says NOW that they created the scene to show Cersei protesting at first but that she gave in to it because she realized how much she missed Jaime. They are also now saying the edit didn't truly show their intentions.

Not buying it...backlash makes people say strange things. :rolleyes:

Meh. As a reader of the books and watcher of the show, I can't say the scene upset me in any way. Their whole storyline in both the books & the show is downright creepy and disgusting. I like Jaime's path in the books though how they plan on going that route after this scene will be interesting. Can't say much more than that without giving spoilers.

I did read that part of the reasoning behind this scene was to humanize Cersei. She's always been a power player but having her father force her into another marriage she doesn't want (Robert was her first hubby & now she's being forced to marry Loras Tyrell) and the rape scene both show that while she has power, there are men (namely her father and brother) who can and do subject her to humiliations no woman should have to endure but she does and somehow survives them. Cersei is one of the most hated (if not the most hated after Joffrey's death) characters and watching her suffer these humiliations will help watchers of the show understand her motives for what she does.

In the books, Joffrey's death was more gruesome & painful. He started turning black and ripped at his own throat. He deserved way more than what was shown.

Okay, I gotta vent about last night.
I was really happy about the Oathkeeper scene with Brienne, Jaime & Pod (I actually got a bit misty-eyed).
But then the totally-didn't-happen-in-the-books stuff with Locke and the Watch and Bran & the Reeds at Craster's, and the lord of the Others and all that nonsense... It was odd and different enough that I was a bit peeved, but as I've thought about it more, I'm more annoyed because 1) I don't see much reason for the plot changes and 2) they're going to have to add more different plot things to finish up what they started.
OF COURSE I'll still be watching, though. It just means my friends are going to have to hear me continue to complain about how "this doesn't happen in the book!"

The fluidity of the episodes is starting to annoy. They start each episode off by neatly wrapping up all of the conflict from the previous episode, then introducing additional conflicts one by one which you know you're going to have to wait at least a week to see resolved.

I think Sopranos pioneered this, and it's been the format for dramas ever since.

If HBO ends this series like it ended the Sopranos... hell to pay.

The Mountain and The Viper

Thoughts? So much to say but my thoughts are everywhere! I'll go by what we saw in the snow and. It bring up what's in the books bc frankly, I go crazy sometimes with comparisons.

Arya and The Hound - I'm getting irritated by them dragging out her storyline. Get on with it! Though I must admit her hysterical laughter was unnerving but pretty awesome to watch. After all she's endured, she's so close and yet so far.

Sansa - Finally we start seeing her come into her own and play the game. She covered brilliantly for Petyr though his creepy looks towards her are pervy. Plus, what's up with her wearing that Maleficent dress and giving him a look while coming down the stairs? Weird. God I hope they decide. To to hook those 2 up. Ewwww!

Jon - Boring scenes from the Night's Watch. Hopefully the fight next week makes up for it.

The BIG Fight - OMG! Oberyn! A friend told me she screamed like Ellaria Sand did I'm that last fight scene. Even though I knew it was coming, it still shocked me at how gory and brutal it was.

Tyrion's face at he end was so heartbreaking. Cersei has the perfect resting bitch face.

at least while reading the books, you can skip a couple pages and miss bloody/gory details.

i was catching up on work emails while this episode was on, and *luckily* took a break to let the cat out during the final scene. i still had the tv loud enough to hear it though. :(